Iranian Chill Thread

[lydian fall]

It wasn't even them those are literally two random IDF girls someone found on the internet, there was a TV report with one of the girl being surprised after she received calls about this stupid post

Those are the girls, their mother was also murdered:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644994483400916993

One is 20 and one is 16, once again you fall for your retarded fake news, reminds me of the "Asa Flotz" spy you detected which is "Dida Fart" in Hebrew


It's because those are just two random IDF army girls, you guys always spread fake news

Reported for making multiple IDs


@waz

 

[lydian fall]

Heavy storm in Tehran:

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1656269656284442624

 

[Hack-Hook]

That's hollow wordplay based on a misleading mathematical phenomenon. It's like a 21 year old man telling his 40 year old parent that their age difference has "decreased" on grounds that in terms of percentage, it used to be of 1900% when he was one year of age whilst now it amounts to less than 100%. In reality, their age difference is and will always remain stable at 19 years.

So what you're clinging to in despair is called sophistry, intellectual dishonesty and deliberate semantic manipulation. In this case they can be summarized as trolling, the kind of which only an extremely low IQ person may fall for.

Here's the fact: a government like the Islamic Republic, which improves literacy by 47 percentage points in 44 years, does so at a more rapid pace than one like the Pahlavi regime which merely improved it by 35 points over 58 long years. I know this is very hard to digest for those who try to whitewash an ousted vassal regime of the Americans and the zionists, and who're bent on denying the internationally recognized success of the Islamic Republic (and that includes closet-monarchist reformists), but no amount of trolling will change historic reality.

It also follows that Hack-Hook prefers Iran's literacy rate to rise by only 35 percentage points rather than by 47. Which says a lot about Hack-Hook's agenda - behold everyone. Maybe because the party this user is encouraging you to vote for, is promoted by people who openly claim that "Jewish culture is superior" to Iranian civilization. We're dealing with inverted racists and neo-colonialized compradors. Don't be complicit.

completely different matter and calculation, you really can't understand that the age is absolute number and literacy is rate and your example is as usual irrelevant and not applicable . the fact remain first Pahlavi government had a very harder task making people to school than Islamic republic.
so the fact remain that 450% vs 100%
the rest is your usual Zionism blah, blah , blah and the last paragraph is your outlandish conclusion that nobody with sane mind can reach , by the way the party you promote consider women as sort of sweet and men as fly.

 

[SalarHaqq]

completely different matter and calculation, you really can't understand that the age is absolute number and literacy is rate and your example is as usual irrelevant and not applicable .

When evaluating which government improved a given rate more quickly, you look at the respective percentage point differential for each government divided by the considered time span, and certainly not at the percental gap between those percentage points, troll.

So the utter nonsense you came up with is perfectly and totally irrelevant to the question at hand. It's a case of an abusive rhetoric spin referencing percental calculations, exactly like in the example I furnished, which is therefore as convenient as it gets.

Under the Islamic Republic, literacy increased faster and your beloved shah couldn't hold a candle to it. Which merely requires primary school education and a modicum of intellectual rectitude to realize once confronted with the data. End of story.

the fact remain first Pahlavi government had a very harder task making people to school than Islamic republic.
so the fact remain that 450% vs 100%

The fact is this: the Islamic Republic raised literacy by 47 percentage points in 44 years, the Pahlavi regime by only 35 points over 58 long years.

You and everybody else here understands perfectly well what this means: namely, that literacy was boosted at a superior rate under the Islamic Republic, which was my point and it's absolutely accurate, no ifs and buts.

But keep trolling with a third rate numerical hoax play because this historic truth is so hard for a monarchist to digest.

the rest is your usual Zionism blah, blah , blah

A fact you have no response to. As usual.

As for issue of zionism, yeah, it's only "bla bla"... nothing to see here, subjects like the one on the right are bona fide patriots loyal to their homeland and people:

Behold what the quoted user is attempting to trivialize.

and the last paragraph is your outlandish conclusion that nobody with sane mind can reach ,

On the contrary, it follows directly from your gibberish.

by the way the party you promote consider women as sort of sweet and men as fly.

This individual doesn't know what a metaphor is. Someone school them.

 

[HGV]

Israel used the David Sling AD system for the second time in operational history today, against a Khyber-1 302mm rocket (from Syria) fired by the Palestinian resistance in Gaza.

David Sling systems now have to worry about threats from Gaza and Lebanon (and Syria). David Sling is not really a factor for Iran, it is designed to intercept TBMs like Fateh-110 and Iskander rather than MRBMs that Iran would use.

 

[tsunset]

Israel used the David Sling AD system for the second time in operational history today, against a Khyber-1 302mm rocket (from Syria) fired by the Palestinian resistance in Gaza.

David Sling systems now have to worry about threats from Gaza and Lebanon (and Syria). David Sling is not really a factor for Iran, it is designed to intercept TBMs like Fateh-110 and Iskander rather than MRBMs that Iran would use.

Israel relies on THAAD and Arrow for MRMBs, they tested it with a copy made by themselves of Shahab-2 or 3 (just a scud look alike) i believe

The worst thing that could happen beside Dimona and Negev reactors would be one of those MRMBs carrying little Skittles bomblets, like thousands of them, someone posted a video a while ago showing Russia using those, little bomblets dropping like a rain of bombs, can't find the video but it was completely raining bomblets on a factory

Is there even a system that has intercepted a MRBM in a real situation outside testing?

 

[HGV]

Is there even a system that has intercepted a MRBM in a real situation outside testing?

Not that I'm aware of, but we have to assume the extensive testing will be reflected in operational situations. It will probably be easy for them to intercept Shahab-3, Ghadr, Emad, Rezvan etc (with >80% interception rate). How they fare against QBM (e.g. Haj Qasem or Kheybar Shekan) or BMs that impact at far greater speeds (e.g. Sejjil or Khorramshahr) is less clear, although less successful seems a reasonable assumption. Unfortunately the majority of Iran's MRBM stockpile is of the former SCUD-based group, but even with those 1 successful impact out of 20 missiles is a good ratio for Iran (if they are precision-guided like Emad).

Even the relatively inaccurate and easy to intercept Shahab-3, Ghadr and Rezvan (etc) have an important purpose: they exist in huge numbers (hopefully in the thousands), have powerful warheads with ballistic trajectories (= higher impact velocity) and have to be intercepted, causing stress on interceptors/radars and depleting Israel's stockpile of interceptors, giving more advanced missiles (Emad, Kheybar Shekan, Sejjil) a greater chance of success. They are also far cheaper and easier for Iran to produce than AD systems are for Israel to produce.

If they use 2x interceptors per BM (as is standard), 200 Shahab-3 missiles could deplete up to 400 Arrow/Patriot/THAAD interceptors. In this scenario they will very quickly be defenceless against Iran's more powerful and advanced missiles and will need to urgently beg the USA for emergency resupplies. I am not sure how many interceptor missiles they have but 400 in total seems like a lot already. For example, I saw an analysis on Twitter recently that the number of available interceptor missiles for Arrow-3 was lower than thought (<100) but nobody knows.

Long-range cruise missiles, drones and the high-end hypersonic BM could also be used to conduct specific SEAD/DEAD campaigns to degrade Israeli AD systems (assuming sufficient intelligence), alongside (or as an alternative to) saturation attacks to deplete stocks. Combination of different types of weapons increases the load on AD systems and will reduce the interception rate.

 

[tsunset]

Not that I'm aware of, but we have to assume the extensive testing will be reflected in operational situations. It will probably be easy for them to intercept Shahab-3, Ghadr, Emad, Rezvan etc (with >80% interception rate). How they fare against QBM (e.g. Haj Qasem or Kheybar Shekan) or BMs that impact at far greater speeds (e.g. Sejjil or Khorramshahr) is less clear, although less successful seems a reasonable assumption. Unfortunately the majority of Iran's MRBM stockpile is of the former SCUD-based group, but even with those 1 successful impact out of 20 missiles is a good ratio for Iran (if they are precision-guided like Emad).

Even the relatively inaccurate and easy to intercept Shahab-3, Ghadr and Rezvan (etc) have an important purpose: they exist in huge numbers (hopefully in the thousands), have powerful warheads with ballistic trajectories (= higher impact velocity) and have to be intercepted, causing stress on interceptors/radars and depleting Israel's stockpile of interceptors, giving more advanced missiles (Emad, Kheybar Shekan, Sejjil) a greater chance of success. They are also far cheaper and easier for Iran to produce than AD systems are for Israel to produce.

If they use 2x interceptors per BM (as is standard), 200 Shahab-3 missiles could deplete up to 400 Arrow/Patriot/THAAD interceptors. In this scenario they will very quickly be defenceless against Iran's more powerful and advanced missiles and will need to urgently beg the USA for emergency resupplies. I am not sure how many interceptor missiles they have but 400 in total seems like a lot already. For example, I saw an analysis on Twitter recently that the number of available interceptor missiles for Arrow-3 was lower than thought (<100) but nobody knows.

1 successful impact out of 20 missiles

This is a very minimal ratio, not sure at one point how from a barrage of 20 MRMB, 19 would be intercepted, in the first round surely better chances of interception, but even on 20, 19 interception is massive

The liquid fuel missiles nearly all have Scud as base, what is non-scud base left are Sejjil and Khorramshahr, and all the solid fuel missiles which I'm sure Iran has more than thousands of them (Fateh family etc), there are other things to count such as TBM launched from Lebanon and cruise missiles, also AshCM Hezbollah owns, and also the rocket and mortar flurry.

I imagine how this scene would look like. Hundreds of 500-1000kg payload MRBMs launched from Iran, thousands and thousands of rockets and mortars, cruise missiles, hundreds if not thousands of TBM from Lebanon or Syria. I have no clue how they will fly back their aicrafts unless they have underground airbases. This is why Iran has said that Israel is not the threat as it is such a small state in a war, but the United States.

This is going to lead to nuclear blackmailing from the United States or worse, a nuclear "retaliation" against conventional strikes, but this would massively tarnish the United States image on the world scene, as it is pretty much the highest violation of international laws anyone could make and lead to millions of civilian casualties including neighboring countries having the side effects. I don't think a massive Kippur-like replenishment operation from the USA would happen at this point.

 

[HGV]

This is a very minimal ratio, not sure at one point how from a barrage of 20 MRMB, 19 would be intercepted, in the first round surely better chances of interception, but even on 20, 19 interception is massive

The liquid fuel missiles nearly all have Scud as base, what is non-scud base left are Sejjil and Khorramshahr, and all the solid fuel missiles which I'm sure Iran has more than thousands of them (Fateh family etc), there are other things to count such as TBM launched from Lebanon and cruise missiles, also AshCM Hezbollah owns, and also the rocket and mortar flurry.

I imagine how this scene would look like. Hundreds of 500-1000kg payload MRBMs launched from Iran, thousands and thousands of rockets and mortars, cruise missiles, hundreds if not thousands of TBM from Lebanon or Syria. I have no clue how they will fly back their aicrafts unless they have underground airbases. This is why Iran has said that Israel is not the threat as it is such a small state in a war, but the United States.

I assume a conflict only between Iran vs Israel (in the scenario that Israel strikes Iran's nuclear facilities).

Those old SCUD based missiles will probably have 30-40% failure rate and at least 80% interception rate, they are bread and butter for those advanced interceptors. 20 x 0.7 x 0.2 = 2.8 impacts. CEP is large so probably 1/3 will hit something meaningful. But the point isn't for those to be successful, that's just a bonus, their real purpose is to deplete interceptor missiles so that the more advanced BMs (etc) can operate with more success and do damage.

Non-SCUD based MRBMs: Haj Qasem, Kheybar-Shekan, Sejjil, Khorramshahr and the mystery hypersonic missile. Everything else is food for Israeli AD systems (to deplete their AD missile inventory).

One area Iran lacks is the ability to launch a high number of MRBMs simultaneously. The Emad rail system only fires one missile at a time and probably takes 30-60 seconds between missiles. Individual TELs have to be moved into position and set up in advance (giving early warning to enemy). Silos are limited in number.

 

[lydian fall]

Some sources say Pakistan's army deliver bought Iranian weapons to Ukraine

 

[Hack-Hook]

This individual doesn't know what a metaphor is. Someone school them.

this individual don't knew what wrong and irrelevant metaphor is

 

[Hack-Hook]

The fact is this: the Islamic Republic raised literacy by 47 percentage points in 44 years, the Pahlavi regime by only 35 points over 58 long years.

You and everybody else here understands perfectly well what this means: namely, that literacy was boosted at a superior rate under the Islamic Republic, which was my point and it's absolutely accurate, no ifs and buts.

But keep trolling with a third rate numerical hoax play because this historic truth is so hard for a monarchist to digest.

again wrong way to compare it statistically
by the way let look at the Iran literacy rate after the revolution

the statistic of year to year increase in literacy rate show the highest increase was at the time before revolution between 1956 till 1966
those chart are from this research by Ali Kadivar about social justice after 40 year of revolution

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354682184_Social_Development_and_Revolution_in_Iran#pf16

there are interesting charts in it for example the most improvement in women life expectancy was before revolution
or the most increase in hospital beds / population was before revolution
or the most increase in number of doctors per population was before revolution
how before the revolution higher percent of people were home owner than after it
overall a very interesting research

and let see after revolution whose government increased the literacy rate the most

yes the trio that you guys course every day , Moosavi, Hashemi and Khatami
interestingly your favorite president ahamadinejad decreased it in its first 2 year

 

[TheImmortal]

Israel used the David Sling AD system for the second time in operational history today, against a Khyber-1 302mm rocket (from Syria) fired by the Palestinian resistance in Gaza.

David Sling systems now have to worry about threats from Gaza and Lebanon (and Syria). David Sling is not really a factor for Iran, it is designed to intercept TBMs like Fateh-110 and Iskander rather than MRBMs that Iran would use.

HZ operates F-110 and its derivatives.

 

[HGV]

HZ operates F-110 and its derivatives.

Did I say otherwise? I said David Sling has to worry about TBMs like Fateh-110 and threats from Lebanon (precisely because Hezbollah has Fateh-110 BMs).