Iranian Chill Thread

[Resurrection5782]

@rmi5 @haman10

Bros, do you consider Seljuks as Irani originated ?

If they are not who are 30 million of iran ??
Turk kurd lor baluch arab all are irani.

 

[-SINAN-]

If they are not who are 30 million of iran ??

Okay, i think, i begin to understand you....

Than an other question are Seljuks are Persian originated ?

 

[Serpentine]

Bros, do you consider Seljuks as Irani originated ?

If I remember right, they were originated from some Oghuz Turkish tribe in Caspian region.
Later, just like Ghaznavids, Persian became dominant language and culture and Turkmens were the backbone of their army, along many other groups.
They had great fighting spirits and were very good warriors, as is true for many other Turkish originated tribes and groups in history.

PS: Yep, I think I was right

The Great Seljuq Empire (Modern Turkish: Büyük Selçuklu Devleti; Persian:دولت سلجوقیان‎) was a medieval Turko-Persian, Sunni Muslim empire, originating from the Qynyq branch of Oghuz Turks. The Seljuq Empire controlled a vast area stretching from the Hindu Kush to eastern Anatolia and from Central Asia to the Persian Gulf. From their homelands near the Aral sea, the Seljuqs advanced first into Khorasan and then into mainlandPersia before eventually conquering eastern Anatolia.

The Seljuq empire was founded by Tughril Beg in 1037 after the efforts by the founder of the Seljuq dynasty, Seljuq Beg, in the first quarter of the 11th century. Seljuq Beg's father was in a higher position in the Oghuz Yabgu State, and he gave his name to both the state and the dynasty. The Seljuqs united the fractured political scene of the Eastern Islamic world and played a key role in thefirst and second crusades. Highly Persianized in culture and language,the Seljuqs also played an important role in the development of the Turko-Persian tradition, even exporting Persian culture to Anatolia.The settlement of Turkic tribes in the northwestern peripheral parts of the empire, for the strategic military purpose of fending off invasions from neighboring states, led to the progressive turkicization of those areas.

Seljuq Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Abii]

@rmi5

Do you know any Iranian banks that offer interest payments in dollars?
I've heard that it's possible.

Some of them are offering 20% interest payments on a 1 year term.

The problem would be the sanctions though.

Gotta benefit from that shitty economy somehow.

 

[twilight]

@
Resurrection5782

سلام
عزیز دل برادر ، زمانی که صحبت می کنی ، حواس حرف هات رو داشته باش وگرنه بار بعدی جواب در شان بهت می دهم ....

بعدش هم ، جوش زدن بنده به شما ربطی نداره ....

در ضمن ، خیلی دلم می خواد بدونم منظورتون از این حرف کدوم بخش صبحت هام هست ...

Har chizi ke zarar dashte bashe bayad filter beshe.Taliban ro dust dari mituni beri Afghanistan zendegi koni

بار بعدی هم اگه جواب خواستی ، فارسی بنویس ...

Okay, i think, i begin to understand you....

Than an other question are Seljuks are Persian originated ?

we don't live in past .... but in our official history books , we read their history in schools .... in less than 2 pages ....

actually , no one care about those bullshits anymore , except some racists .... most of people are busy with their daily problems and have no time for history and racism ...

 

[Chronos]

Actually, I live in the East coast, There are many asians in my university, but they are either chinese or korean. some of chinese socialize with others and are cool but most of them are not. I have had some contacts with koreans, and I have found them generally better than chinese. But, there are just in university, and in the city, you would see just an absolute minority of asians. the most significant minorities in the city are blacks and latin americans which are much cooler than asians in my mind

I think the correct terms is African Americans And yes, they are awesome. Muhammad ali was African American after all.

@rmi5

 

[rmi5]

@rmi5

Do you know any Iranian banks that offer interest payments in dollars?
I've heard that it's possible.

Some of them are offering 20% interest payments on a 1 year term.

The problem would be the sanctions though.

Gotta benefit from that shitty economy somehow.

Actually they don't pay you that amount of interest on dollar accounts, it is much less. But the point is that there is no guarantee to return your money in dollar They may want to return your money in Rial instead even if you have deposited dollars in your account. Be very careful about it.

I think the correct terms is African Americans And yes, they are awesome. Muhammad ali was African American after all.

@rmi5

honestly I don't like boxing and harsh sports

 

[twilight]

دوستان مستند جنگ جهانی 3 رو دیدید ؟ قبل از انتخابات دور دوم اوباما درست شده و با توجه به مطالبی که بیان میکنه مشخص هست که کاملا وابسته به جمهوری خواه های امریکا باشه اما نکاتی که در اون مطرح میکنه قابل تفکر هستن. برای مثال افزایش چند برابری نیرو های امریکا در اقیانوس ارام همچنین ایجاد 6 دفاع موشکی بین روسیه و اروپا در دوره اوباما از نکاتی هست که به اون اشاره میکنه. البته مشخصا اروپا از روسیه ترسی نداره چون روسیه دیگه اون نیروی تاثیر گذار در سطح جهانی و مخالف امریکا و غرب نیست ترس امریکا برای متحدان اروپاییش بیشتر به خاطر دستیابی گروه های تندروی خاورمیانه و شمال افریقا به موشک های میانبرد هست. اما به هر صورت من که بدم نمیاد جنگ تمدن های غرب و شرق رو ببینیم و تاریخ از هزاره سوم میلادی خودش مجدد نوشته بشه. وضعی که جهان پیدا کرده خیلی ناامید کننده است. البته نکاتی که در رابطه با جنگ سوم میگه ترسناک هستن مثل این نکته که در صورتی که جنگی اتفاق بیوفته و از سلاح های اتمی استفاده بشه دمای زمین حداقل به صورت میانگین 7 درجه کاهش پیدا میکنه که این یعنی دو درجه هم پایین تر از عصر یخبندان دوم همچنین از بین رفتن حداقل 50 درصد لایه اوزون . اما چیزی که مشخصه به نظرم عصر دوم زندگی بشری رو به پایان هست. البته مستند تبلیغاتیه بیشتر اما از مطالبی که بیان میکنه میشه نتیجه گیری های جالبی انجام داد.

سلام
نگران بشریت نباش ...
این ها این مستندات رو با یک پس زمینه ی مادی گرایانه می نویسند که بر پایه فلسفه ی مدرن غربی و فلسفه ی حسی هست و به صورت خودکار نتیجه می گیرند که بشر داره خودش رو نابود می کنه

اگه خدا و اراده ش رو فاکتور بگیریم ، حرفشون درسته ولیکن خدا وعده داده که یک منجی خواهد آمد ....

از نظر بعضی اندیشمندان اسلامی و شیعی بشریت سه دوره داره

دوران اساطیری - دوران کودکی بشر که خودش رو سرگرم اساطیر می کرده
دوران علم و تجربه - دوران جوانی بشر که همراه با شهوت و خشونت و تحرک زیاد هست
دوران بلوغ بشریت - بشر از گذشته اش درس می گیره و ذهنش بازتر می شه و به سکون و آرامش می رسه

فعلا ما در دوران جوانی بشریت هستیم که البته به نظر می رسه رو به پایانه ....

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خودتون رو هم درگیر نشانه های ظهور نکنید .... تا حالا چند صد بار به نشانه ی مهدویت حرکت های عظیمی در جهان شده

برای نمونه قیام مختار بر پایه ی مهدویت بود ( می گفت محمد بن حنفیه مهدی امت هست و من نایبش ... بعد از مرگ محمد بن حنفیه پیروانش گفتن مهدی نمی میره .... اینجا بود که مذهب کیسانیه پا به حیات گذاشت )

تا قیام های عباسیان و به وجود آمدن امپراطوری عباسی که بر پایه ی مهدویت بود ( در ابتاد با محمد بن عبدالله محض- فرزند امام حسن و داماد امام حسین که در کربلا بود و زخمی شده بود- بیعت کردند ولیکن بعدها عباسیان حکومت رو برداشتند و محمد بن عبدالله محض رو که قیام کرد رو کشتند )


کلا این مهدویت داستانی داره ... روایات اهل سنت هم بیشتر از مال شیعیان هست .... ولیکن این روز ها روش مانور نمی دهند چون نمی خواهند یک دولت شیعی فارس رو تبلیغ کنند چون مهدویت به همراه امام حسین ( ع) از نشانه های شیعیان هست ....

البته وهابیت با هر دوی این موضوع ها مشکل داره و این روشش بر خلاف سایر مذاهب سنی هست که هم به مهدویت به صورت کلی اعتقاد دارند و هم امام حسین ع رو مورد احترام می گذارند و دشمنانشان ( معاویه و یزید ) رو لعن می کنند ....

 

[rmi5]

If I remember right, they were originated from some Oghuz Turkish tribe in Caspian region.
Later, just like Ghaznavids, Persian became dominant language and culture and Turkmens were the backbone of their army, along many other groups.
They had great fighting spirits and were very good warriors, as is true for many other Turkish originated tribes and groups in history.

PS: Yep, I think I was right



Seljuq Empire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I almost agree with @Serpentine 's post. ^^^^^^

@rmi5 @haman10

Bros, do you consider Seljuks as Irani originated ?

 

[Chronos]

honestly I don't like boxing and harsh sports

Then you definitely will not like New Zealand.

@rmi5

I forgot to mention, you know what's worse than coupled up friends when you are single?

Coupled up friends who are patronising. You know, the friends who tell you that you will find the right one, and then you want to die alone and miserable just to get back at them

It's a weird place I am in. some days i think i am going to die alone, some days I am optimistic and say i am only 23 and has a long way to go.

The main issue is self confidence. I say to myself, be more confident, but it is easier said than done lol.

 

[Abii]

Actually they don't pay you that amount of interest on dollar accounts, it is much less. But the point is that there is no guarantee to return your money in dollar They may want to return your money in Rial instead even if you have deposited dollars in your account. Be very careful about it.




honestly I don't like boxing and harsh sports

ah I see,

bikhial pas

There's a Ukrainian bank paying out 14.3% on a 3 month term deposit! lol

My savings are starting to grow and I don't know what to do with it. Savings accounts here pay 1% (2% if I'm lucky). I'm dead scared of the market so that's out. I'll probably save more in 2014 and buy a condo/house I guess.

 

[rmi5]

Then you definitely will not like New Zealand.

@rmi5

I forgot to mention, you know what's worse than coupled up friends when you are single?

Coupled up friends who are patronising. You know, the friends who tell you that you will find the right one, and then you want to die alone and miserable just to get back at them

It's a weird place I am in. some days i think i am going to die alone, some days I am optimistic and say i am only 23 and has a long way to go.

The main issue is self confidence. I say to myself, be more confident, but it is easier said than done lol.

I totally agree with post. The most annoying thing is their advices, it just make it worse
Yeah, definitely self confidence is the problem, and I believe that the only way to gain this required self confidence, is talking with girls, asking them out, .... So, experiencing this process is the best and only way to achieve the required skill and confidence, there is no other way in my opinion.

ah I see,

bikhial pas

There's a Ukrainian bank paying out 14.3% on a 3 month term deposit! lol

My savings are starting to grow and I don't know what to do with it. Savings accounts here pay 1% (2% if I'm lucky). I'm dead scared of the market so that's out. I'll probably save more in 2014 and buy a condo/house I guess.

But be very careful about those foreign banks. check their rules, and rules of Canada before doing anything, and find some people who have actually deposited money in those banks. They may be fraud.

 

[Chronos]

I totally agree with post. The most annoying thing is their advices, it just make it worse
Yeah, definitely self confidence is the problem, and I believe that the only way to gain this required self confidence, is talking with girls, asking them out, .... So, experiencing this process is the best and only way to achieve the required skill and confidence, there is no other way in my opinion.

Correct.

One last thing to add. Society, family, friends and media place certain expectations on you. And often, what your perception of how the outside world perceives you is the source of many self esteem issues. We are always constantly trying to fit in with the group. Anything that makes us stand out and undergo scrutiny makes us feel scared.

This might sound pessimistic, but there are who do die alone, but what matters more is how you deal with it.

Whether you end up being bitter and angry or attempt find peace with yourself.

 

[rmi5]

Correct.

One last thing to add. Society, family, friends and media place certain expectations on you. And often, what your perception of how the outside world perceives you is the source of many self esteem issues. We are always constantly trying to fit in with the group. Anything that makes us stand out and undergo scrutiny makes us feel scared.

This might sound pessimistic, but there are who do die alone, but what matters more is how you deal with it.

Whether you end up being bitter and angry or attempt find peace with yourself.

Yes, our close people and society have an enormous direct and indirect pressures on us in many different subjects, and also on this issue as well. I am not saying that These pressures are always good or bad, but they change our life in some extent whether we like it or not.
But, come on man, we are very young, no need to be worried about it. we are too young to be pessimistic

 

[Chronos]

Yes, our close people and society have an enormous direct and indirect pressures on us in many different subjects, and also on this issue as well. I am not saying that These pressures are always good or bad, but they change our life in some extent whether we like it or not.
But, come on man, we are very young, no need to be worried about it. we are too young to be pessimistic

I have a saying. it goes something like this:

you should be a socialist in your 20's.

A capitalist in your middle age

And a fascist in your old age.