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@925 I really am not trying to derail the thread, okay your right not a fair comparison but yes b 52 have enough weaponry to wipeout large bases 70000 pounds of armaments hitting military and if you have several running back to back 350000 pounds of armaments, it’s not theoretical if they have done it on many occasions, my only point is drones are an added presence to the battlefield, in a decade they will probably takeover much of the battlefield right now they’re definitely beneficial, but I would take a large aircraft like b 52 and b 2 that can fire weapons from a safe distance and destroy massive amounts of hardware in moments and I do not like that beny guy, now he’s just a troll trying to antagonize
 
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Which cities is Ukraine besieging ? The answer is none. The only advantage Ukraine has over Russia is manpower. They outnumber the Russians more than 3 to 1. So basically what Ukraine does, is they try and swarm or overwhelm Russian positions with more troops than the Russians can kill at any given time. Most of the time it doesn't work and even when it does, it leads to massive losses in terms of men and material.

Most of Ukraine's soldiers are conscripts with a few days training. If they're lucky they have a few weeks of training. Most are poorly equipped, some with WW1 era Maxim machine guns. This is what Ukrainian conscripts themselves say. A few months ago CNN interviewed an elite Ukrainian unit. They told CNN that 80% of their unit had been killed or injured. Around the same time I saw an interview with a Ukrainian conscript and he said that all the professional soldiers are dead and that there are only conscripts now.

Ukraine is using human wave attacks against Russia. In Kherson for example, Ukraine keeps sending poorly trained conscripts to the frontlines, in an attempt to flood Russian positions. However the Russian troops are airborne paratroopers, elite units. For the last 3 weeks the Ukrainians have attacked Russian lines on a daily basis and they have sustained thousands of casualties and hundreds of tanks and armored vehicles.

The difference between Russia and Ukraine is that the Ukrainians have never been able to encircle and destroy a large Russian army unit. The Russians, when surrounded or overwhelmed, simply withdraw to the next defensive line, taking with them 90% of their men and equipment. Territory is not a big deal. The Nazis in WW2 gained alot of territory, but in the end they lost it all. The way Ukraine is fighting is simply not sustainable.

Right now the Ukrainians are attacking the Russians with everything they have, because the weather is turning cold and wet and they have a few weeks left at most. The Ukrainians know that very soon, in a few months at most, the Russians will deploy 300,000+ troops. Despite the propaganda coming from the west, the vast majority of these units will be made up of young soldiers with a military background. They will also be well equipped and will be supported by thousands of Iranian / Russian drones and missiles as well as artillery and air support.

Only time will tell, but once Russia deploys their new army, I can't see a good outcome for Ukraine. Remember Russia attacked Kiev with 40,000 troops. With 300,000 troops Russia can easily take Kharkiv and encircle the entire Donbas. After that they can expand from Kherson to Transnistria and block Odessa from the rest of Ukraine. Again nobody knows what the future holds but Ukraine is on the 10th round of conscription now, so if they weren't sustaining massive losses, why would they be conscripting women and elderly men ? I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

@925boy so if you do the numbers 500 to 1000 Ukrainian soldiers are out of permanent action a month, 15000 to 30000, so between 150000 to 300000 of most of their best men, in less than a year. One most Russian military analysts and bloggers are now ridiculing this special operation, when you have a feared Chechnyan president ridiculing the performance of these generals and leaders, also out loud yeah big failures. Okay past coupl of weeks Ukraine hasnt taken control of “significant” territory why would they, they’re using a Russian tactic surround these cities and towns that are fortified for attack, just starve them and bombard them daily into submission, why would Ukraine fight door to door with town and cities mined for ambush. I saw you weren’t finished talking so I moved it out of respect for @Stryker1982 also just got off my 30 minute break have a great day
 
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So basically what Ukraine does, is they try and swarm or overwhelm Russian positions with more troops than the Russians can kill at any given time. Most of the time it doesn't work and even when it does, it leads to massive losses in terms of men and material.

Actually it does work. Syrian civil war is proof of that. Terrorists like Al-Shishani were notorious from throwing men at an objective like cannon fodder till SAA either ran out of ammo or were overwhelmed. Losses ment nothing to them. Just look at how many men ISIS was willing to lose in Kobane. Tens of thousands.

So when you don’t have constant close air support like Russia doesn’t have in Ukraine, throwing men at an objective works.

Russian military on the ground is basically at SAA level right now. It needs to go thru the growing pains of modernizing it’s tactics and purging it’s corps of incompetent officers
 
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Actually it does work. Syrian civil war is proof of that. Terrorists like Al-Shishani were notorious from throwing men at an objective like cannon fodder till SAA either ran out of ammo or were overwhelmed. Losses ment nothing to them. Just look at how many men ISIS was willing to lose in Kobane. Tens of thousands.
but what size territory does ISIS and AQ control in Syria today? they failed in the Syrian war, so i think you're proving your point wrong!

Also, false analogy- Syrian war and Ukrainian war are DIFFERENT, so i cant entertain comparisons unless there is strict similarities in context, etc.
So when you don’t have constant close air support like Russia doesn’t have in Ukraine, throwing men at an objective works.
But US had constant air support in Iraq and Afghanistan and still lost- with only air support, you lose 100% of every war, US proves that. Any country that overrelies on air forces, always loses, becuase to win a war, you have to control the ground, and only ground forces can do that in the long run- US lost every war it was afraid to keep soldiers on the ground.
Russian military on the ground is basically at SAA level right now.
are you serious? well i think this says more about your understanding level or perceptions of the wars. You forget Russian military is made to and able to fight NATO? You think the 800 military aircraft in Belarus now is only for Ukraine? Dont judge wars by how they are gfoing, judge them by their end results and we know the entities with the worst war results in modern history is US and NATO, simple.
 
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Nerds during our school time :

Teacher : exam cancelled
Nerd 1 : starts crying
Nerd 2 :coursing teacher silently
Me :👀


"Nerds" nowadays:

cancelled their classes in "Sharif University"
WE WANT TO DINE WITH THE GIRLS🙄
 
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Terrorist attack in shiraz
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an Isis member opens fire at namaz prayers in shahcheraq mosque.
15 people are dead and 20 peoples are injured

Isis statement :

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