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1730 surrender last few days
There was 1000 marine soldiers in April
That's from memory, I'm sure there was more
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There was 1000 marine soldiers in April
That's from memory, I'm sure there was more
It wasn't a 1000 Marines. It was few hundred, they just keep replaying the videos and from different angles to make it look like thousands surrendered.
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Ok there was 5k defending Mariupol, half of the troops hide in Azofsteel and the other half died one month ago, is that what you state ?
Yes.
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So twice shame on Ukrainian warring ....
If BBC said 1k surrender then it's 1k
Ukraine war: Mass surrender of troops in Mariupol, says Russia
13 April 2022You mean they quoted what Russia said...
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Huh ! When in this war BBC and Reuters been the voice of Russia ???
After weeks of bombardment, 1,000 Ukraine marines surrender in Mariupol, says Russia
APR 13, 2022 6:37 PM PHT
REUTERS
Yes, they quoted Russia. They didn't say it themselves by checking to see if its true.
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Usually a 2-1 to 3-1 attacker needs to outnumber the defender due to defender advantage.
But Russia did it with maybe 20K or so (I have to go back and look at the data) including 10K or so Chechens.
Are you dumb? Half died in the steel factory and half died a month ago? Thats 100% that means no one existed in the steel plant.
You think 5K troops can hold this much territory
For nearly 2 months?
You play too much video games. If one line even collapsed in that situation—the other sides would be overrun by their flanks.
A city of 500K managed to muster around 1% of its entire population during a general mobilization plus whatever Central command sent? Ok Baghdad Bob
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Russian cats, all sport players, Musicians, writers, food, even Vodka , ..... All banned,
Russian Media, Banned
Then BBC and Reuters doing free propaganda for Russians....
Ok
You didn't get this 14k number from the wiki and mistaken it for Ukrainian defenders did you?
Siege of Mariupol - Wikipedia
| Casualties and losses | |
|---|---|
| 14,000 personnel[42] | 3,500 personnel[42] |
| Per Ukraine:[45] ~6,000 killed Per Ukraine (810th Naval Infantry Brigade only): 158 killed, 500 wounded, 70 missing[46] Per Ukraine (Spetsnaz GRU only): 14 killed[31] Per Meduza (Naval Infantry only): 115 killed[47] | Per Russia:[48][49] 4,000+ killed, 3,194 captured, 1–4 Mil Mi-8 helicopters shot down[50][51] Per Ukraine: Unknown number of killed,[52] 1,000+ captured,[52] 600–700 wounded[53][54 |
LOL! Half didn't die in the factory considering all those bombings and artillery attacks. Might as well claimed a million dead with all that constant attacks then and civilians not able to leave from that plant.
LOL! You should look at other modern sieges and you should stop playing video games. Little more than 2 months by well trained Ukrainian defenders. Mostly hiding in the steel plant after being pushed back. Think about it.
Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia
| Casualties and losses | |
|---|---|
 10,500 troops[6] 2,000 security forces[6] 850 troops[7]Total: 13,350 troops | ≈3,700–4,000 insurgents[8][9] |
| 95 killed 560 wounded[10] (54 killed and 425 wounded from 7 to 16 November)[11] 8 killed43 wounded[11][12] 4 killed10 wounded[13][14] Total: 107 killed, 613 wounded | 1,200–2,000 killed,[15][12] 1,500 captured[15] |
Yeah and they still quote what Russia says. Ok.Russian cats, all sport players, Musicians, writers, food, even Vodka , ..... All banned,
Russian Media, Banned
Then BBC and Reuters doing free propaganda for Russians....
Ok
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You didn't get this 14k number from the wiki and mistaken it for Ukrainian defenders did you?
Siege of Mariupol - Wikipedia
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Casualties and losses 14,000 personnel[42] 3,500 personnel[42]
Per Ukraine:[45]
~6,000 killed
Per Ukraine (810th Naval Infantry Brigade only):
158 killed, 500 wounded, 70 missing[46]
Per Ukraine (Spetsnaz GRU only):
14 killed[31]
Per Meduza (Naval Infantry only):
115 killed[47]Per Russia:[48][49]
4,000+ killed,
3,194 captured,
1–4 Mil Mi-8 helicopters shot down[50][51]
Per Ukraine:
Unknown number of killed,[52]
1,000+ captured,[52]
600–700 wounded[53][54
LOL! Half didn't die in the factory considering all those bombings and artillery attacks. Might as well claimed a million dead with all that constant attacks then and civilians not able to leave from that plant.
LOL! You should look at other modern sieges and you should stop playing video games. Little more than 2 months by well trained Ukrainian defenders. Mostly hiding in the steel plant after being pushed back. Think about it.
Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia
Casualties and losses
Total: 13,350 troops≈3,700–4,000 insurgents[8][9]
560 wounded[10]
(54 killed and 425 wounded from 7 to 16 November)[11]
43 wounded[11][12]
10 wounded[13][14]
Total: 107 killed, 613 wounded1,200–2,000 killed,[15][12]
1,500 captured[15]
Yeah and they still quote what Russia says. Ok.
1) I didn’t use Wikipedia
2) fallujah’s population was 50% of Mariupol. And attacker used a 3 to 1 advantage like I mentioned earlier.
3) Battle of Mariupol was over 244 sq KM.
Battle of Fallujah was over 16 sq KM
4) Thanks for proving you are a moron who thinks Battle Of Mariupol between two of the largest armies in Europe was the same thing as US coalition fighting 4K sandal insurgents with AKs and RPGs.
LOL! How long did the Ukrainians confined to the plant? How long was it bombed? You are the moron.
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End of April they finally lost the last pieces near the sea.
So they fought since Feb 24th invasion till end of April
But please educate us again on how the town of fallujah was similar to Battle of Mariupol. How 4K can cover less than 20 sqKM in Fallujah but can magically cover 10x that amount in Mariupol. Hilarious.
Just run along. Go to Twitter where Ukraine won in Mariupol.
I been highly critical of Russian military failures and incompetence, even in Mariupol. But your level of propaganda is a joke not worth debating.
Don't you get it? The Ukrainians lost most of the city in over a month and were confined to the plant and the surrounding areas. So it was constantly bombed for another month. That's why you think they probably had 14k defenders and able to withstand that 30k attackers or whatever number you put up and able to withstand the siege for more than 2 months. Its like the 300 and its allies against a massive Persian Army. Russia just wants to claim Canadian general led the resistance with 14k defenders as you say and that's why Russia had a hard time. Just like Russians claiming they are fighting NATO itself and not embarrassed they are fighting Ukrainians.
By the way it was confirmed that the Russians had already moved most of its forces from Mariupol weeks after the city was taken and left a token force to take on the confined defenders.
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