Iranian Chill Thread

[WudangMaster]

 

[zartosht]

I just got to insert this infruating fact here. As a chess lover I was sooooo pissed when alireza firouzja (future world #1) was stolen from Iran with western money.

and used as propaganda that he had to flee Iran because the government wouldnt let him freely play zionists...

Those same clowns have banned sergei karjakin (Russias best chess player, and a ukranian-russian) for openly supporting his government and country.

and in a mother of all ironies... Firzouja is now banned from playing russian players from his new "free" home of France..

this is both sad, hilarious and infuriating at the same time

 

[Shawnee]

I just got to insert this infruating fact here. As a chess lover I was sooooo pissed when alireza firouzja (future world #1) was stolen from Iran with western money.

and used as propaganda that he had to flee Iran because the government wouldnt let him freely play zionists...

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Those same clowns have banned sergei karjakin (Russias best chess player, and a ukranian-russian) for openly supporting his government and country.

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and in a mother of all ironies... Firzouja is now banned from playing russian players from his new "free" home of France..

this is both sad, hilarious and infuriating at the same time

فیروزجا آخرش از ماست
حس درونی من

 

[zartosht]

فیروزجا آخرش از ماست
حس درونی من

He still keeps the Iranian flag whenever he plays online, so you may be right...

Hopefully he returns home one day.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507806385618272269

What a strange world we live in today...

Wahhabis and Zionists openly in love with one another.

These Scum will do anything to cling onto illegitimate power.

 

[Shawnee]

He still keeps the Iranian flag whenever he plays online, so you may be right...

Hopefully he returns home one day.

و دقت کنید فیروزجا سالها نفر اول جهان خواهد شد
بدون بازی با اسراییل این شانس خیلی کم میشد

گاهی میشه با اسراییل بازی کرد

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507828920598605825

 

[SalarHaqq]

Look who's been back in Ukraine lately...

If you're unfamiliar with this France-based zionist agitator, here's a partial overview of his past activities:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-chill-thread.283137/post-13290937

@WudangMaster

 

[Stryker1982]

Look who's been back in Ukraine lately...

If you're unfamiliar with this France-based zionist agitator, here's a partial overview of his past activities:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-chill-thread.283137/post-13290937

@WudangMaster

This only confirms that Ukraine will fall now.

 

[TheImmortal]

 

[Abdulaziz Al-Karimi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507529486690140161

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507814952786083840

 

[Mata Elang]

Look who's been back in Ukraine lately...

If you're unfamiliar with this France-based zionist agitator, here's a partial overview of his past activities:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iranian-chill-thread.283137/post-13290937

@WudangMaster

Zionist Israel doesn't care about Ukraine. Putin and the Zionists are two different images in one coin. Putin has repeatedly stabbed Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in the back (Russia only cares about its military bases in Syria).

Washington Post source "The main reason is pragmatic. Russia is the de facto ruler of neighboring Syria. Good working relations with the Kremlin have long been seen as a critical component of Israel's national security. The IDF flies over Syrian airspace to prevent Iran from extending its control to Lebanon by arming its deputy, Hezbollah, with advanced weapons. Targets include Iranian command and control in Syria, weapons depots and factories, and anti-aircraft defense systems. IDF and Russian commanders in Syria use a de-conflict mechanism that coordinates IDF activities and allows Israel to operate without harm Russian assets.
This was well understood by the Israelites. A poll published this week showed 67% of the public supported the government's cautious approach to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and supported not taking a firm stand against Russia. Only 21% disagree".

You don't have to blame Ukraine if you receive military assistance (to survive) from the 'Big Satan' (USA), they are weak, if they don't receive immediate help their people will be massacred a lot, their territory will be annexed and Ukrainians will be made slaves by Russia. There is a saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". You should not be surprised by the world's political turmoil (it's all about interests and survival).

Remember, Iran itself was in the Iran-Iraq war once. ' accept help from a country he hates or his own enemy, namely Israel. Try to think like a court scale, don't be too bigoted (fanaticism is okay but don't blind your conscience, try to balance it with feelings and logic).

Russia/Putin barbaric video:

Russia/Putin Zionist America Liberal communists are all 'Great Satan'

 

[SalarHaqq]

Zionist Israel doesn't care about Ukraine.

It would be a mistaken assumption. Zionist elites pretty much care about ever remote corner on earth, since their project is one of full spectrum dominance over the human species and the planet.

Furthermore, when it comes to Ukraine, zionists have quite the special interest as well as extensive presence in the place. The fact that the current Ukrainian president of Jewish background incidentally happens to be a staunch supporter of the zionist occupation regime is only the tip of the iceberg.

Here's a nice paper on the topic (English version obtained by online translator, with some errors corrected by yours truly):

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Interview with Youssef Hindi

Ukraine is considered by a number of Israeli Jews as their property

Arthur Sapaudia: Dear Youssef, thank you for granting me this interview. When did you start to take an interest in the issues that concern you, that is to say, among others, Zionism, the clash of civilizations, Jewish messianism, secularism... What was your trigger?

Youssef Hindi: There was no trigger. I have been interested in politics, history, sociology, anthropology, geopolitics and many other fields since adolescence. I made a name for myself with my first book, Occident et Islam – Tome 1: Sources et genèse messianiques du Sionisme (2015, ed. Sigest), which is the result of my research on the religious origins of Zionism whose official history traced its birth to the late 19th century in the mind of Herzl, a Jewish atheist. My research on the subject, started ten years ago, was motivated by historiographical shortcomings in the genealogy of Zionism. This is what led me to study Jewish messianism and Jewish mysticism (the Kabbalah) about ten years ago. This is how I discovered the origins of Zionism and the strategy of the clash of civilizations. At the same time, I opened other research projects and wrote nine books in total to date.

Who are your precursors in the fields mentioned and what books would you recommend reading in addition to yours?

On the messianic origins of Zionism and the strategy of the clash of civilizations, I am the first, to my knowledge, to have traced its genealogy, from the 13th century to the present day. But like any researcher, I am not starting from scratch. Authors have allowed me, by their contributions as much as by their shortcomings, to advance and direct my research. Among them is the historian Shlomo Sand who believed that Zionism was born in the English millenarian Protestant circles of the 17th century. It was my disagreement with him, upon reading his 2008 book, How the Jewish People Was Invented?, that prompted me to research the Jewish origins of Zionism. He argued that the Zionist project could not have been born in the Jewish tradition since the Talmud forbade the return of the Jewish people to the Holy Land. And he believed, like Thierry Meyssan after him, that the idea of repatriating the Jewish people to Palestine to hasten the coming of the Messiah was exclusively Protestant millenarian. My intuition told me that these Protestant millennials had been influenced by Jewish messianism. It was not difficult for me to demonstrate. But the most difficult thing was to discover how this messianic Zionist project had emerged in the Jewish world.

A few years later, I read the fascinating book by the great reporter Douglas Reed, The Zion Controversy, which he wrote in the 1950s. Douglas Reed saw that Zionism had its roots in the Jewish religion, but he could not demonstrate it. His mistake was to link Zionism to the Talmud, while the latter forbids the return of Jews to the Holy Land before the arrival of the Messiah of the Jews. In defense of Douglas Reed, he was not a research historian or specialist in Judaism, and had no knowledge of Kabbalah; his book is, as he wrote in conclusion, a testimony that future historians had to validate with evidence.

It was then that I began to study the history, concepts and evolution of Jewish mysticism (the Kabbalah) and messianism, because I sensed that it was in this current that I would find the origins of the zionist project. So I immersed myself in the books of Gershom Scholem which were very useful to me in understanding Kabbalah and messianism. But there again, Scholem did not link Zionism to Kabbalah and messianism. And I had to do more precise research on key periods and characters to resolve this “historical problem”.

It is very difficult for a neophyte to distinguish between Gnosis, Kabbalah, messianism, alchemy, magic... How do you find your way around and what would be their common basis?

Kabbalah was strongly influenced by Gnosticism which originated from beliefs coming from both ancient Persian religion [Mazdeism], Greek religion and certainly other beliefs from both the Mediterranean and India via Mesopotamia. Kabbalah is composed of several branches: apocalyptic, cosmology, angelology, demonology and magic. As for Jewish messianism, it has, over the centuries, been largely penetrated by the Kabbalah. But I strongly advise against venturing into the study of Kabbalah for those who do not have a solid theological foundation. They will get lost there.

Do you think what is happening currently in Ukraine is an integral part of active messianism?

As I explained recently1, it is first of all about the geopolitical confrontation between the United States and Russia. This is the old strategy of the Anglo-American thalassocratic power, one of the main objectives of which is to take control of Eurasia. A project that is naturally opposed by Russia, a tellurocratic power, threatened with destruction. But Jewish messianism is not far away. Ukraine is considered by a number of Israeli Jews as their property. Moreover, President Zelinski is himself a Jew, just like his master, the billionaire Igor Kolomoïski (holder of Ukrainian, Israeli and Cypriot nationalities) who financed the neo-Nazi battalions of Ukraine. Kolomoiski also lives in Israel.

In an article published in September 2015, I analyzed the Zionist strategy vis-à-vis Russia2, which was combined with US geostrategy. Israel, via the pro-Israeli lobby3, uses, in particular since the turning point of September 11, 2001, the United States and NATO as a tool for the destruction of Russia's historical allies in the Middle East, which leads to even greater animosity between Russians and Americans.

At the same time, the Zionist leaders are trying, through intermediaries, to negotiate with Russia so that it abandons its Syrian and Iranian allies. In July 2013, Prince Bandar, as a representative of Saudi Arabia (Israel's ally), met with Vladimir Putin during the Syrian crisis. During the talks, Bandar allegedly proposed an economic, oil and gas agreement to Vladimir Putin, in exchange for which he would have to let go of Iran, abandon President Assad and deliver Syria to terrorists4. At the time, I analyzed the fire lit a few months later in Ukraine as an American-Israeli response to the Russian refusal. Moreover, Israel was preparing to deliver weapons to Ukraine a month or two after the start of the civil war. Putin then warned the Jewish state.

1 https://strategika.fr/2022/02/26/le...tan-russie-conference-audio-de-youssef-hindi/
2 http://www.geopolintel.fr/article970.html
3 John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt, The pro-Israel lobby and American foreign policy, La Découverte, 2007.
4 Al Manar, “What was not revealed about the stormy Bandar-Putin encounter”, August 21, 2013.
5 Sputnik, “Putin warns Israel against arms deliveries to Kyiv”, 18 April 2015.

https://sapaudia.org/2022/03/07/entretien-avec-youssef-hindi-03-22/

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Putin and the Zionists are two different images in one coin. Putin has repeatedly stabbed Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in the back (Russia only cares about its military bases in Syria).

Not sure what you define as backstabbing. It's not a secret that the agendas of Russia and the Resistance Axis in Syria aren't entirely identical, but they also have major objectives in common and furthermore there's a degree of interdependence stemming from the ground reality (for instance, Russia knows its air power and Russian-trained SAA ground forces alone won't suffice to preserve the status quo, and that there's no real substitute for the infantry role played by Iran and its allies).

Washington Post source "The main reason is pragmatic. Russia is the de facto ruler of neighboring Syria. Good working relations with the Kremlin have long been seen as a critical component of Israel's national security. The IDF flies over Syrian airspace to prevent Iran from extending its control to Lebanon by arming its deputy, Hezbollah, with advanced weapons. Targets include Iranian command and control in Syria, weapons depots and factories, and anti-aircraft defense systems. IDF and Russian commanders in Syria use a de-conflict mechanism that coordinates IDF activities and allows Israel to operate without harm Russian assets.

This doesn't qualify as betrayal, since Russia never gave assurances to Iran that it would join the Resistance against zionism. And this was clear to the Resistance from the beginning. Making sure the zionists won't target Russian assets in Syria is not an act of hostility against the Resistance.

Furthermore, I'd take any assessment starting out with the claim that Russia is the de facto ruler of Syria with a grain of salt. Not to mention that even if it was the case, what it would imply is that Moscow has no issues with the extensive military presence of Iranian and allied forces all over liberated parts of Syria, including the Golan.

This was well understood by the Israelites. A poll published this week showed 67% of the public supported the government's cautious approach to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and supported not taking a firm stand against Russia. Only 21% disagree".

They won't openly take a firm stance. The whole idea is to leave a door open for Russia while maintaining pressure on her via the zionist, russophobic and NATO-backed Ukrainian regime, and instrumentalize the crisis provoked by nefarious western meddling (the western regimes' responsibility in bringing about this crisis was correctly pointed out by Iran's Supreme Leader Khamenei).

Isra"el"'s condition for reining in their NATO and Ukrainian vassals, is that Moscow severe its ties with Iran and President Al-Assad's government, and let takfiri or sectarianist terrorists take control of Syria. It's a sophisticated form of blackmail.

You don't have to blame Ukraine if you receive military assistance (to survive) from the 'Big Satan' (USA), they are weak, if they don't receive immediate help their people will be massacred a lot, their territory will be annexed and Ukrainians will be made slaves by Russia.

They're doomed to lose and cede much of their territory to conquering Russian forces anyway. I very much doubt that Russia is going to annex the entirety of Ukraine, let alone enslave its citizens.

But, the Ukrainian regime has mostly itself to blame for the destruction, given that it let itself be manipulated by NATO into violating the 2014 Minsk Agreement and continually provoking Russia. Russia showed patience and restraint for more than seven years before deciding to put a forceful end to these games - whether or not one agrees with the method chosen by Moscow is another matter.

There is a saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". You should not be surprised by the world's political turmoil (it's all about interests and survival).

As explained above, the background picture is even more complex than that. Interests and survival indeed, including from Russia's perspective, her own survival in the face of NATO's destructive designs.

Remember, Iran itself was in the Iran-Iraq war once. ' accept help from a country he hates or his own enemy, namely Israel.

That isn't exactly what unfolded. Iran did not deal with the zionist regime, but with the Americans, who then fell back on Isra"el"i stockpiles in order to blur out their tracks (remember the Reagan regime had kept it hidden from Congress). Furthermore, the US never intended to help Iran: rather it was Iran which, after escalating massively in Lebanon and in exchange for mediating the release of western hostages held there, forced the US to go ahead with token arms deliveries.

Also there's a significant difference between, on the one hand, pressuring your enemy to supply a few arms - which, as said were very limited in numbers, only because the military you inherited from a former western-aligned regime was almost entirely made of western weaponry and you didn't have enough time to develop your own defence industries yet, and on the other hand, acting as a full-blown lackey to foreign powers and toeing their line even to your own detriment, as the pro-western regime in Kiev has been doing.

Ukraine's alliance with the west is not a consequence of this war, and preceded it by many years. Russia was not asking for Ukraine to come into its exclusive fold, but would have been content if Kiev adopted a neutral position with balanced ties between Moscow and the west, similar to Austria during the Cold War.

Try to think like a court scale, don't be too bigoted (fanaticism is okay but don't blind your conscience, try to balance it with feelings and logic).

I'd submit that the present analyses aren't bigoted.

Russia/Putin barbaric video:

No contextual information is offered. While it is certainly possible that the two civilians were targeted intentionally and that those firing the shots were Russians, alternative explanations can't be dismissed out of hand.

Civilians, especially children, women and elderly falling victim to conflicts is always a most horrible thing, no matter where it takes place. This said, more evidence is needed to be able to solidly conclude that Russia targeted these civilians in a deliberate manner. A certain amount of collateral damage is unfortunately inevitable, especially in urban settings. What's important is that everything conceivable is done to avoid such damage.

I can't see anyone lying on the ground after the blast, which suggests that no lethal ammunition was used here.

A person seemingly shot in the knee / leg, we don't know by whom, why etc. Police violence on a normal day across the US looks worse than this, honestly.

Again, those almost certainly aren't lethal rounds, since persons hit are standing up and start walking again.

Russia/Putin Zionist America Liberal communists are all 'Great Satan'

Russia, while having faults of its own, is not remotely as oppressive as the zionist and American regimes. Which is why Islamic Iran is resisting the latter and entering certain partnerships with the former.

It is my understanding that the radical anti-communism of the bipolar era is marking the thinking of many of our friends in Indonesia, and by extension they may tend to project antagonistic views on post-Soviet Russia as well. However times have changed now and so has the geopolitical reality. Indeed the Soviet Union used to be an illegitimate empire, but this doesn't apply to its successor state, the Russian Federation. One may take issue with Moscow's policies, but for me it's not a state that needs regime change, as opposed to the US and Isra"el". Iran appears to share this view, considering the fact that Tehran chose to establish proactive partnerships with Russia in a variety of fields and dossiers.

 

[Knockingdoors]

Zionist Israel doesn't care about Ukraine. Putin and the Zionists are two different images in one coin. Putin has repeatedly stabbed Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in the back (Russia only cares about its military bases in Syria).

Washington Post source "The main reason is pragmatic. Russia is the de facto ruler of neighboring Syria. Good working relations with the Kremlin have long been seen as a critical component of Israel's national security. The IDF flies over Syrian airspace to prevent Iran from extending its control to Lebanon by arming its deputy, Hezbollah, with advanced weapons. Targets include Iranian command and control in Syria, weapons depots and factories, and anti-aircraft defense systems. IDF and Russian commanders in Syria use a de-conflict mechanism that coordinates IDF activities and allows Israel to operate without harm Russian assets.
This was well understood by the Israelites. A poll published this week showed 67% of the public supported the government's cautious approach to the Russia-Ukraine conflict, and supported not taking a firm stand against Russia. Only 21% disagree".

You don't have to blame Ukraine if you receive military assistance (to survive) from the 'Big Satan' (USA), they are weak, if they don't receive immediate help their people will be massacred a lot, their territory will be annexed and Ukrainians will be made slaves by Russia. There is a saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". You should not be surprised by the world's political turmoil (it's all about interests and survival).

Remember, Iran itself was in the Iran-Iraq war once. ' accept help from a country he hates or his own enemy, namely Israel. Try to think like a court scale, don't be too bigoted (fanaticism is okay but don't blind your conscience, try to balance it with feelings and logic).

Russia/Putin barbaric video:

Russia/Putin Zionist America Liberal communists are all 'Great Satan'

Russia is only the defacto ruler of the Assad held areas because they militarily hold the place but outside of that they have no rule over US or Turkish defacto ruled areas of Syria and there is a deconfliction mechanism rule and communication line between them in these areas.

Israel has free hand in bombing the Russian defacto area because Russia has given green-light for it but they have no greenlight in US or Turkish zones besides they have no need of striking rebels or SDF but only Iranian elements closer to their borders and Iran's failure to retaliate has encouraged more Israeli air-offensives against Iranian elements within the area of the Russian held which has recently said they are being forced to take action.

I don't see why Israel would stop it's ''wars between wars in order to break up any entrenchment along their borders including missile shipments''

This is a policy israel has pursued in order to limited entrenchments and if they were to stop then the entrenchment will be in effective but either way they are planning to launch a military operation into the daraa area down the line in order to create a buffer zone but they won't be able to carry it out themselves hence they could use the help of Egyptian, Jordan armed forces carrying out a military offensive in order to create a buffer zone on the daraa area and Israel will likely pay for the campaign instead without any military involvement as they lack the manpower for it whereas Egypt-Jordan could achieve it easy without manpower being wasted as they have huge pool of manpower. Lebanese armed forces could also carry out a military operation in order to clean the southern portion of Hezbollah in a counter-terrorism effort.

carving out another territory out of Syria on the southern portion of the country which could become a defacto self-entity but that is if it comes to fruition because there is no political incentive for it currently.

But if the global warming increases it could shift to the entire euphrates river instead alongside Syria and Iraq in order to secure the water resources because there is fears of growing water shortages down the line if things dry out just like the predictions if the global warming increase by just 1.5 degrades of celisus

 

[TheImmortal]

This is a policy israel has pursued in order to limited entrenchments and if they were to stop then the entrenchment will be in effective but either way they are planning to launch a military operation into the daraa area down the line in order to create a buffer zone but they won't be able to carry it out themselves hence they could use the help of Egyptian, Jordan armed forces carrying out a military offensive in order to create a buffer zone on the daraa area and Israel will likely pay for the campaign instead without any military involvement as they lack the manpower for it whereas Egypt-Jordan could achieve it easy without manpower being wasted as they have huge pool of manpower. Lebanese armed forces could also carry out a military operation in order to clean the southern portion of Hezbollah in a counter-terrorism effort.

This is by far some boneheaded analysis. Almost looks like a US Republican Senator editorial article in the Jerusalem Post.

Jordan invading Syria? Are you even paying attention what’s happening in Jordan? The king is barely holding on to power, his parliament is against him. You think he will join a “buffer zone” operation that benefits mostly Israel?

Lebanese military clearing South Lebanon of HZ? Is this a joke? Hezbollah could decimate the Lebanese “army” without lifting a finger.

You been watching too much European propaganda over in Deutschland