The thing is, Personally i don't think the problem is with the Iranians.
It all started in the 1960's with the rising of pan-Arabism and Arabic nationalism.
And now, you add sectarianism to it too.
But of course Iranians are at fault too. Because some of them are also Chauvinistic. But they don't go around calling the Arabian Sea for the Persian sea or the Gulf of Oman for the Gulf of Iran etc.
And I've yet to see an Iranian Islamic figure saying It's OK to kill Sunnis. But I've seen plenty of Saudis, Wahabi figures saying that it's OK to kill Shia's , they are kafir according to them, especially Iranians. They are the ones promoting the violence and insults etc. Just look at this link for instance and listen carefully to what the toy gun actually says...how pathetic can you be?,
And I've read a lot of comments here since joining from Arabs saying that Shia's are kafir and they will be killed etc. Yet i have not read Iranians saying it about their Sunni brothers.(I have read about them saying it of Wahabis,Jihadist killing muslims though here, but i have also read Sunnis say the same thing)
This is less of an Iranian-all Arab issue and more of an Iranian-Arabs in the Arabian peninsula issue, particularly the Saudis.
Some of the best relations Iran has is with Oman though. And we have had no issues with each other. They were one of the few Arab countries that were against the Iraqi invasion.
There is just a lot of Iranophobia,anti-shia's, anti-Iran views and thoughts.
Whenever something goes wrong at the Arabic countries, we are always blamed...With no proof whatsoever.
For instance, the Bahrain protests.
"In June, King Hamad established the
Bahrain Independent Commission of Inquiry composed of international independent figures to assess the incidents. The report was released on 23 November and confirmed the
Bahraini government's use of systematic torture and other forms of physical and psychological abuse on detainees, as well as other human rights violations.
It also rejected the government's claims that the protests were instigated by Shia Iran. The report was criticised for not disclosing the names of individual abusers and extending accountability only to those who actively carried out human rights violations."
Yet, STILL they say that Iran is involved. As i said before, god forbid it has something to do with
What I'm saying is that, its just in a lot of their ideology to hate us. Either because
most Iranians are Shia's Or because we are Iranians.
While as the general view of Iranians and Shia's is
Now, i don't care for Iranians that are at fault either.
I don't care for the whole "we are the best, Arabs are lizard eating etc" all the normal insults. That's not cool.
But in most cases, the instigators are the Arabs.
I also had a discussion the other day with Turkish brothers here about the Safavid's which you might remember Sinan?
Where some Turkish user for instance used this as his proof of the "Safavids being Turks". And i couldn't reply because the thread was locked haha
Yet!
at the same time, same author....Vladimir Minorsky stated
"From the evidence available at the present time, it is certain that the Safavid family was of indigineous Iranian stock, and not of Turkish ancestry as it is sometimes claimed. It is probable that the family originated in Persian Kurdistan, and later moved to Azerbaijan, where they adopted the Azari form of Turkish spoken there, and eventually settled in the small town of Ardabil sometimes during the eleventh century."
And i didn't Insult anyone, however i was insulted. But did not want to stoop down to their level and just provided facts.
There is just a lot of hate against Iranians.
Some of them might be called for but most of them aren't. And i haven't really insulted anyone per say, with the exception of calling them Stupid, Ignorant when they are, and saying things that are true. For instance the whole Persian Gulf thing the other day, I showed the guy 121 maps, from 6th to 20th century of it being referred to as the Persian Gulf. Yet the guy just refused to accept it. He even posted according to some, a fake map. (Don't know if it was), but the ones i posted predated that map with more than a Thousand years. And then HE started with the insults.
And let me ask you something Sinan....If you just happen to walk by a thread, and you see someone talking shit about the Ottoman empire, claiming it, and then say for instance "Yeah, well you Turks only made döner kebab during that time, the Ottomans were actually Arab or Persian because they spoke that language a lot in the Ottoman Empire", would you not react? And if the insults kept going on and on and get worse and worse. I think most people would react. Not all but most.
Anyway, I'm not saying all Arabs or Turks here are hating on Iranians.
I don't know you guys but You, Xenon, Yzd seem pretty cool, Yzd has made some insults towards me , or Iranians in general when we were speaking but after replying to them neutrally, with no real insults but just historical facts, he just said basically that some of the Iranians started it. And when you read the thread whenever it's an Iranian vs Arab thing going on, the Arabs are usually the Instigators...But the Iranians are also at fault most times. Saying stupid shit too.
Anyway, that's my point of view.
