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Honestly, the Azerbaijan-Armenia skirmishes are none of our business. Let them beat the crap out of each other. All that matters for us in that war is the balance of power in the Caucasus, which hasn't been changed so far. And it is highly unlikely that it can be changed in a significant way either. Armenia can always annex the autonomous region of Nakhchivan if push comes to shove.
Disagree brother. Here we have, our former stolen lands, our former province Azarbaijan going against our interests and wishes every single time. They are also the main base of Mossad against Iran posing serious threat to our national security. On top of that sometimes they fan the flames of social unrest in Iran especially in our Azari populated areas. Armenia never played such games against Iran, they were always a faithful productive group within Iran and we have not encountered any issues with them.

Basically with Azarbaijan, thanks to Qajar dynasty and Russian imperialsts we have a situation now that our former lands go full retard against their own motherland. I call this betrayal no matter if it is 200-300 years old. Still very recent imo.
That is right. Azarbaijan can never militarily dislodge Armenia from Gharabagh... but if somehow Armenia itself comes under serious Azarbaijani/Turkish threats then we must act or we will have another hostile neighbour.
I doubt that Azerbaijan alone can be any threat to the integrity of Armenia. Turkey can change the balance of power, but I doubt that Turkey would risk engaging Russia in Armenia. But yes, if things get really serious, we should support Armenia. But as of now, it's just another pointless war that we can't care less about in my opinion.

I'm puzzled, aren't you folks of the opinion that "all is lost", that the situation in Iran is on the brink of explosion and that the country is threatened by quasi imminent "Syrianization"?

Moreover, aren't you of the persuasion that nothing good can come of the Islamic Republic's decision makers, particularly its Leadership and the IRGC, whom you portray as weak, incompetent, profit-seeking individuals? So who is this "we" you're referring to in the above cited these comments? Are you in charge, or is this a form of hypothetical speculation about what you'd do if it was up to you?

I mean, when reading your aforegone stuff, and if one were to hold a mirror before you, one would reply: "don't waste your time meditating on what Iran should do concerning the Karabakh conflict dadash, these IRGC losers and clowns won't care to pursue our interests anyway, right now they're busy stealing people's money and conniving with the Americans to stay in power".

Some coherence won't do any harm, gentlemen.
 
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Has this been confirmed or is it just speculation ? I wouldn't be surprised if Erdogan were to use agents to sabotage weapons transfers to Armenia, however it could have just as easily been an industrial accident. It's not like those are rare in Iran ?

Personally I think Iran should equip Armenia just to keep the status quo. ATGM's, MANPADS, sniper rifles with armor piercing rounds, air defense systems and suicide drones / loitering munitions are precisely what Armenians need.

In any case, is it surprising that Iran is looking to profit from this war ?





Video of Iranian Azeris attacking military truck that was transporting weapons from Iran to Armenia

Also there are news about Iran moving tanks to the border with Azerbaijan
 
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Has this been confirmed or is it just speculation ?

It's quite obvious that this is most probably some cheap propaganda. The video proves exactly nothing, it could be showing anything anywhere and could have been recorded practically anytime since the invention of film cameras.

On the other hand, we know for sure that the global anti-Iran propaganda apparatus is in overdrive trying to score some cheap points on the back of the poor people dying on both sides of the Karabakh war, in order to feed two types of anti-Iranian narratives:

1) The one peddled by sectarianist and other elements falsely claiming that the "hypocritical Islamic Republic is always siding with non-Muslims against Muslims in wars".

2) Domestic pan-Turkist separatist narratives. Here the propaganda is hoping to fuel resentment against the IR amongst Azari-speaking Iranians.

Just take a look at the Turkish press (media like the state-owned TRT, for instance), soon to be followed, I am sure, by RFE/RL, the BBC and Manoto and so on: they're already flooding the airwaves and the internet with this old and tired propaganda narrative.

It is also entirely possible that someone did or will blow up some random truck (military or non-military) verifiably located in north-western Iran, but then falsely claim that the vehicle was "carrying arms to Armenia" when in fact no such thing was happening.

They're desperate to illustrate their propaganda with some visual material to be used as "Twitter proof" for their claims.


could have just as easily been an industrial accident. It's not like those are rare in Iran ?

Not just in Iran, such accident are frequent enough accross the planet.


No. Armenia should weaken Azerbayjan and liberate more lands if possible. Armenia is not a mossad-paradise unlike Azerbayjan (who recently condemned Yemeni Houthi resistance). Armenia is trustable neighbour and has no claims against Iran.

What you say is still pretty accurate, however and unfortunately, since 2018 some new challenges have arisen in Armenia. A US-funded colored revolution took place which resulted in long-time Armenian president Serj Sarkisian, a reliable partner to Iran, being replaced by a certain Nikol Pashinyan.

Compared to its predecessor, the present Armenian administration has sought to move somewhat towards the US, without compromising its traditional ties to Moscow. Behind Washington, the shadow of the zionist apartheid entity is looming, despite the historically often strained relations between them and the Armenians.

Of course, nothing to panic about for now. Armenia is aware that as a landlocked, small nation surrounded for the most part by big players and by an outright hostile neighbour it has repeatedly been at war with, it's not in its interest to antagonize Iran.

However from the zio-American perspective, the 2018 colored revolution was conducted partly with the hope of managing to drive some wedges between Erevan and Tehran. For now this hope has largely been vain, but Iran should monitor all developments there.
 
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September 25, 20202:12 PMUpdated 6 days ago
Iran's oil exports jump in September defying sanctions: TankerTrackers


Nevermind the obligatory anti-Iranian propagandistic catchwords and misinformation contained in the article, but wasn't the US recently trying to suggest its forces had "confiscated" Iranian oil aboard some tankers?

So what happened to the chest thumping? Their campaign of so-called "maximum pressure" won't even reduce, let alone halt Iranian oil exports. They do not dare to venture into intercepting Iranian oil tankers.

Incapable of reaching its objectives abroad, America is getting battered from within. Since meanwhile, 1.5 million American children are homeless, millions of US citizens are rotting and getting mistreated in privatized prisons, millions depend on food stamps, tens of millions struggle to survive below the poverty line... On the opposite end of the ladder, the wealthiest 1% keep lining their pockets in the most indecent manner, bankster and corporate mafias keep enriching themselves at the expense of American citizens' living conditions and health.

And this is the wealthiest economy on earth, with a per capita GDP more than ten times Iran's... US elites have zero excuse to treat their population the way they do.

What an incapable, decaying, corrupt entity the US regime has become. Unbelievable. The sooner it falls apart, the better for mankind (and for Americans themselves, provided they manage to eliminate their ruling oligarchy, including all fake controlled oppositionists, once the great collapse begins).
 
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Watched the Biden/Trump debate on CNN..my advice to Iranian Americans...get out before the 2nd US civil war starts..

Civil war (of more or less low intensity, but perhaps even a full blown one) is definitely in the cards for the US.

Problem is that it will most probably be a triangulated event, i. e. a controlled one, where the ruling oligarchy will simultaneously pull the strings of the two opposing sides of the war.

For many reasons, the US oligarchy might see benefit if not urgency in a second American civil war.

From a "marxian" perspective, the tendencial drop of the profit rate and the saturation of markets with unsellable goods and services has reached alarming levels, therefore large-scale material destruction is necessary to reset the system and avoid ultimate implosion of the Capital.

From a viewpoint of political sociology, the US "laboratory" has outlived its uselfulness, is rotting from within and can hardly be held together for much longer, hence controlled destruction of the edifice, in addition to emigration and resettlement elsewhere is preferable for the ruling elite.

When contemplating the underlying esoteric layer of secret societies and their associated cabal, with an eschatological focus on the messianist motivations of globalism and zionism, the people behind these deviations might consider that time is ripe to gradually transition from Pax Americana to Pax Judaica, as sheikh Imran Hossein would put it, to unleash a fake messiah and proclaim the establishment of a one-world government with Jerusalem as its capital. Limited nuclear war is quite a plausible ingredient in this scenario.

The whole engineered COVID-19 crisis perfectly fits into all this and should be viewed as a premonitory signal of sorts.

Let's hope that in the event of a major conflagration on American soil, thanks to a miracle people will somehow end up turning their guns on their puppet masters. But this will quite frankly require a miracle indeed i. e. divine intervention, for the level of mind control affecting world populations, in particular the uprooted, zombified American citizenry, is such that people on their own won't be able to do anything (when "dissidents" consider Trump, the obvious controlled opposition figure manipulated by the deep-state he fallaciously pretends to combat, as their "saviour", then you know there is little hope outside of transcendental intervention).
 
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Today in the SE of the Artsakh-Azerbaijani conflict zone (Lele Tepe), units of the DefenseArmy shot down an enemy combat helicopter that crashed in the terr. of Iran. MoD of the Artsakh announces that there is no element of intent. Ops take place close to Iran.
 
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it seems another Azerbaijani helicopter has fallen in Iran too


waiting for visual confirmation
 
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I'm hearing that Iran has shot down an Azeri helicopter or it was shot down by Armenians and landed in Iran ?

Also rockets hit the Iranian village of Parviz Khan in the north of Iran by the border ?

Casualties seem to be mounting on both sides. Azeris have destroyed some Armenian artillery while Armenians have shot down more Azeri drones and there are claims of lots of casualties on both sides, especially foreign Turkish funded mercenaries.

An Azeri government official or officials have also visited Tehran ? An Azeri G450 government plane has landed in Tehran.

Honestly this is getting out of hand.
 
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Iranian authorities should take this opportunity to identify all Turkish agents in Iran and deal with them appropriately.

During WW1 Turks killed 1 million Armenians women, children, men, elderly, you name it. Now they want to connect Turkey to the Caspian.

Azerbaijan started playing a dirty game with Iran when they allowed Israel to use their airspace to launch drones into Iran. Now Iran is giving them a taste of their own medicine and they can't take it.

Iran should not tolerate this at all. Next time an Azeri rocket hits Iran, Iran should consider launching missiles at the source.

Right now Turkish nationalists are calling for Azeri minority groups to rise up in Iran and overthrow the government with violence.

Honestly Iran should be ready to respond decisively to any and all provocations and any attempts to violate the territorial integrity of Iran as a nation state.
 
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This conflict in Artsakh / Nagorno-Karabakh is escalating VERY rapidly.

Armenia and Azerbaijan are now launching missiles at each others territory and it looks like Armenia is about to formally recognize Artsakh as part of Armenia.

The Turks have made some gains but they have paid a very heavy price. Fighting in the mountains is not easy. Artsakh only has a population of 150,000 but they're all Armenian and fighting for their homeland, which is all they have.


 
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