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So what is the reason why everyone is saying that Iranian govt didnt handle the Corona crisis well??.


The main reason is that when there where already two people dead from corona in Iran , the supreme mullah , Khamenei , said that the talks about the corona are some conspiracy/propaganda by the west , to disrupt the Iranian elections. He encouraged people to go and vote in this meaningless elections whose candidates came from a carefully screened list , approved by the mullahs.

Even the Iranian people did not buy it and most of them voted with their feet and did not participate. How many got infected on that day we would never know. But we see many of Iran politicians who got infected and this could be part of the reason for it.

The second reason was , that after the virus spread in china , Iran announced that it would cancel all flights to china . But in secret the flights continued.

Hard to evaluate exactly how much this decision contributed to the spread of the virus , but fact it that from all the countries in the middle east Iran was hit the hardest.

And though Qom has many tourists visiting , other places in the middle east in Saudi or UAE get a lot more visitors.



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The main reason is that when there where already two people dead from corona in Iran , the supreme mullah , Khamenei , said that the talks about the corona are some conspiracy/propaganda by the west , to disrupt the Iranian elections. He encouraged people to go and vote in this meaningless elections whose candidates came from a carefully screened list , approved by the mullahs.

Even the Iranian people did not buy it and most of them voted with their feet and did not participate. How many got infected on that day we would never know. But we see many of Iran politicians who got infected and this could be part of the reason for it.

The second reason was , that after the virus spread in china , Iran announced that it would cancel all flights to china . But in secret the flights continued.

Hard to evaluate exactly how much this decision contributed to the spread of the virus , but fact it that from all the countries in the middle east Iran was hit the hardest.

And though Qom has many tourists visiting , other places in the middle east in Saudi or UAE get a lot more visitors.



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there were 4 flight to evacuate iranian there and help chinese who wanted to go back to their home go to their country.

by the way there is a certain dude who still think coronovirus is democrats conspracy to undermine him. and can you exactly write whit Mr. Khamenei said here to see if he really meant what you implied or what you say is miss represanting wat he meant. and for the recordhe is the person who stopped religious cermonies and friday prayer to help stop the spread of the disease (Just guess when was the last time that anbody stopped those cermones)

and about iran get hit the hardest we see in time ,its still the beginning of the road there still is several month to weather out
 
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there were 4 flight to evacuate iranian there and help chinese who wanted to go back to their home go to their country.

by the way there is a certain dude who still think coronovirus is democrats conspracy to undermine him. and can you exactly write whit Mr. Khamenei said here to see if he really meant what you implied or what you say is miss represanting wat he meant. and for the recordhe is the person who stopped religious cermonies and friday prayer to help stop the spread of the disease (Just guess when was the last time that anbody stopped those cermones)

and about iran get hit the hardest we see in time ,its still the beginning of the road there still is several month to weather out


The bottom line is , he could have postponed the election yet he did not. His decision , his responsibility.


As for the situation as a whole , i agree with you we are too early on this road to know who was hit the hardest. So far the countries that where hit happen to be some of the strongest economically and more organized. I dare not think what will happen if this virus reaches countries and places who are less prepared to deal with it ,not to mention refugees camps or slums , we have too many of in this region.

Strange that so far the impact in many places is Psychological and economic rather than a physical threat. Lets hope it stays that way.

It is like the whole world was put on hold. People don't travel anymore , don't go out and gather , do not pray in masses.

If you think of it , if someone wanted to make man kind stop there wondering , go home and reflect on their life and actions , that was sure a way to do it.

All we can do is hope that maybe something good will come out of all this " reflection "


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Don't understand how countries take so different steps.

China and South Korea took severe steps and it seems to prove itself. While some countries did very little or too late. You would expect countries to follow some health organization world standard.

Even If some countries manage to get control over this while others do not , the world would still be shut down.




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Here is one thing to consider...there are governments much worse than Iran all around and we Iranians only blame ours!!!.. and by the way the same goes with Egypt..they do not even bother to test!!!..I guess the learned that from their American overlords!

Gambling with 80 Million Lives: Why Erdoğan Lied about Coronavirus

One Turkish doctor estimates that as many as 60 percent of Turks may now be infected.

by Michael Rubin
As coronavirus spreads along Turkey’s borders, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his ministers remained in denial. Just last week, Turkey’s health minister denied any cases existed in the country, a claim made against evidence that travelers to Turkey had been infected there. Ergin Kocyildirim, a pediatric cardiothoracic surgeon at the University of Pittsburg’s School of Medicine, wrote a brilliant essay describing both the Turkish government’s claim to have established an effective testing kit and the fraudulence of its claims.


When faced with both local and international disbelief about why coronavirus would bypass Turkey, Turkish authorities took a dual approach. As in China, they arrested whistleblowers. They went beyond simple repression as panelists on the state-controlled Turkish press insisted that Turkish genes rendered most Turkic peoples immune. Many Turks, Erdoğan included, may embrace the notion of both Islamic and Turkish supremacy, but his basic ignorance of science may have condemned Turks to once again prove Darwin correct.


What might have motivated Erdoğan to lie about coronavirus and gamble with the lives of 80 million Turks?

Part of the reason might be Erdoğan’s dangerous combination of arrogance and ignorance. The Turkish leader’s arrogance is reflected in the thin skin he has toward criticism. According to the Turkish Justice Ministry, Turkish police charged an average of 4,500 people each year from 2014 through 2017 with insulting the Turkish leader for criticizing Erdoğan or speaking about his corruption. (Full disclosure: I am one of them). In 2018, the Erdoğan regime initiated 26,000 new cases. Aa cracks began to show in the Turkish economy, Erdoğan spared no effort to muzzle growing criticism. Nor is the Turkish leader’s ignorance any secret as the crackdown on the free press has meant the surviving media merely amplifies the conspiracy theories in which Erdoğan and his top aides believe, such as the Jews targeting them with telekinesis, or that bands on migratory birds to be evidence of Israeli espionage. The Turkish accusation that followers of exiled theologian Fethullah Gülen contributed to the spread of the virus likely is only a matter of time.

A larger motivation may be fear. While Turkey’s demography is shifting in Erdoğan’s favor as conservative families from Turkey’s Anatolian heartland grow relative to the Europeanized Turks from central Istanbul and the Mediterranean coast, the economy is faltering. In 2010, Erdoğan promised that by Turkey’s 2023 centennial, Turkey would be one of the world’s top ten economies. Even before coronavirus, Turkey would be lucky to remain in the top 20 as corruption, nepotism, political interference in business, and broad mismanagement have combined to send confidence in Turkey’s economy into the gutter.

As Turkey’s economy teeters, the means to avoid catastrophe are narrowing. Looting Cypriot gas was one strategy, but even if Turkish exploration ships struck it rich, it would still be years to bring the gas to market. What Erdoğan really fears is the collapse of Turkey’s tourism industry. In 2018, the Turkish tourism industry accounts for nearly $30 billion dollars. Just a year ago, Erdoğan promised that Turkey would host 50 million tourists, raising that figure by at least 20 percent. Add into the mix Turkey’s investment of approximately $12 billion in a new Istanbul airport, expected to be the world’s largest, and one in which Erdoğan and his family are reportedly heavily invested. It seems Erdoğan sought to downplay reports of coronavirus in order to encourage tourist dollars to continue to flow. In doing so, he sought not only to play Russians, Europeans, and Americans for fools, but also endangered their lives. Unfortunately for Turkey, it will be Turks who will most pay the price as Turkey threatens to become the virus’ next big cluster. One Turkish doctor estimates that as many as 60 percent of Turks may now be infected and that Erdoğan is retarding testing in order to prevent the scale of the catastrophe from becoming known. Deaths were inevitable, but Erdoğan’s dishonest will likely cause many thousand additional deaths in his country added to the dozens Turkey reportedly has already experienced but will not officially report.

Michael Rubin is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). You can follow him on Twitter: @mrubin1971
 
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