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Your level of intelligence is checking the first link only, not even the second one! (which even in the text preview mentions soil PH change), so I have nothing to discuss with you.
Your level of intelligence iis to the extent that a guy wrote a letter and didn't provide any evidence for his claim and you accept it as truth .
Well another study
https://www.gardenmyths.com/pine-needles-acidify-soil/

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/conifer-needles-affect-soil-74460.html

https://extension.oregonstate.edu/node/80506

https://laidbackgardener.blog/2017/10/10/garden-myth-pine-needles-acidify-the-soil/

After its proven that pine needle won't acidity the ground and its only a myth please defend the rest of his claims .
 
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Your level of intelligence iis to the extent that a guy wrote a letter and didn't provide any evidence for his claim and you accept it as truth .
Well another study
https://www.gardenmyths.com/pine-needles-acidify-soil/

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/conifer-needles-affect-soil-74460.html

https://extension.oregonstate.edu/node/80506

https://laidbackgardener.blog/2017/10/10/garden-myth-pine-needles-acidify-the-soil/

After its proven that pine needle won't acidity the ground and its only a myth please defend the rest of his claims .
No, it's not proven, it's just you who likes a certain type of articles! while there are 30 years long studies which say the otherwise:
Do conifers make soil more acid?

but even your own links don't doubt in one thing, that almost no other plant can live beneath this trees (cause it absorbs the whole water!), and that's what Dr Ravazadeh is arguing, in fact it's what many environment activists in Iran are arguing, that why should we waste our precious water resources for a foreign tree which neither produces oxygen nor has any fruits, while we have many alternative native species which at least can do one of them.

so any other B.S?
 
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Interesting excerpt from the declassified files of operation AJAX. It goes to show how far back these terrorist Islamist double agents have acted in the detriment of Iran. There is only one logical explanation of the occupier's disastrous and treacherous foreign policy decisions which cost Iran dearly and their oppressive deceit, murder, and rape of the Iranian people with the domestic policy. I wonder where we would have been if Mossadegh had not been betrayed by Kashani.

Yesterday it was Kashani, today it is Zarif, Larijani, Rouhani and the rest of the clan.

The documents, said Abbas Milani, a professor of Iranian studies at Stanford University: New details on the true political leanings of Ayatollah Abol-Ghasem Kashani, a cleric and leading political figure in the 1950s.

In the Islamic Republic, clerics are always the good guys. Kashani has long been seen as one of the heroes of nationalism during that period. As recently as January of this year, Iran’s supreme leader praised Kashani’s role in the nationalization of oil.

Kashani’s eventual split from Mossadegh is widely known. Religious leaders in the country feared the growing power of the communist Tudeh Party, and believed that Mossadegh was too weak to save the country from the socialist threat.

But the newly released documents show that Kashani wasn’t just opposed to Mossadegh — he was also in close communication with the Americans throughout the period leading up to the coup, and he actually appears to have requested financial assistance from the United States, though there is no record of him receiving any money. His request was not previously known.

On the make-or-break day of Aug. 19, “Kashani was critical,” said Milani. “On that day Kashani’s forces were out in full force to defeat Mossadegh.”

The bastards are busy conspiring with their foreign backers out in full force to defeat Iranians. Every fuvkng mulla is on the English payroll.


In Iran, Official Spin Challenges Perceived Caspian Setback
By Golnaz Esfandiari, RFE/RL


"Look at the map: The 50% myth"
Iranian daily Sazandegi

Senior Iranian officials found themselves in hot water after the recent signing of an eagerly anticipated, five-party deal on the Caspian Sea.

While the so-called Convention On The Legal Status Of The Caspian Sea that was signed on August 12 appeared to postpone some of the most intense disputes between Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Russia, Turkmenistan, and Iran, it also appeared to ditch one of Tehran's strongest cards in any negotiations: the Soviet-era characterization, in multiple treaties, of the Caspian as a sea shared between two parties -- the Soviet Union and Iran.

That recognizes the de facto situation, which is that the breakup of the Soviet Union created five littoral states instead of two.

But it could also leave Tehran the biggest loser in the long run for Caspian resources, particularly oil and gas and other valuables on or below the seabed.

Due in part to Moscow's outsize role in shaping the Caspian negotiations, criticism of the deal also appears to illustrate Iranian mistrust of Russia despite recent cooperation that has included joint efforts in Syria to keep Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in power.

It even led some people to compare this Caspian Sea convention to the 1828 Turkmenchay Treaty between Persia and tsarist Russian, under which the Persians ceded control of territories in the South Caucasus.


"The Little Turkmenchay"
Source: Iranian daily Naghde Hal


After three days of back-and-forth in Iranian media and social media, Iranian President Hassan Rohani and Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif finally took the plunge themselves, describing the new deal reached in Aqtau, Kazakhstan, as a win for Iran.

At a cabinet meeting on August 15, Rohani reportedly said the negotiations marked important "achievements" for Iran, particularly on the security front.

"Under this agreement, creating military bases and the presence of foreign [ships] in the Caspian Sea has been banned," he said, suggesting that the United States and NATO had "plotted" to deploy troops to the sea.

Zarif, who is expected to brief the Iranian parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Committee next week, said, "Iran's territorial integrity has been preserved."

"This agreement is an honor for Iran, and we shouldn't allow this honor to be turned into despair and frustration," Zarif was quoting as saying during an interview with state-run television.

'Halo Of Ambiguity'

While the agreement establishes rules for each country's territorial waters and fishing zones, the delimitation of the oil- and gas-rich seabed remains subject to further negotiations.

"Is it true that Iran's 50 percent share fell to 11 percent?" lawmaker Mahmud Sadeghi asked via Twitter on August 12, a reference to seemingly abandoning any appeals to the dual control ("Soviet and Iranian sea") argument. Sadeghi also suggested the deal was capped "in a halo of ambiguity."

"Is another Turkmenchay on the way?" Sadeghi asked, adding that lawmakers were not informed of "behind-the-scenes agreements."

The daily Ghanoon suggested that Iran could not trust Russia, which the daily alleged had demonstrated that it can "betray" Iran and "bail out" on the country. "For that matter, we have to be vigilant while signing an agreement with [Russia] so that future generations won't curse the signatories while reviewing it," it said.

Afshar Soleimani, a former Iranian ambassador to Azerbaijan, accused Russia of playing a "double game" with Iran. "On the one hand, Russians emphasize that any decision should be made by consensus, on the other hand, they have held negotiations and reached agreements with individual countries," Soleiman said in comments published by Iranian media.

Political scientist and former lawmaker Elahe Koulaei suggested that the timing of the deal -- following the Donald Trump administration's withdrawal from the 2015 nuclear deal and the reimposition of U.S. sanctions -- was against Iran's interests.

"The important point is that Iran is under pressure from the U.S. and its allies in the region and such, a situation shows that it's not a suitable time for negotiations on the legal status of the Caspian Sea," Koulaei said in an interview with the semiofficial news agency ILNA.



High Sensitivity, Low Transparency

In an August 13 op-ed piece titled Foggy Caspian, the daily Ebtekar suggested a lack of transparency on the talks leading to the deal had resulted in ambiguity and a public backlash. "Public opinion's lack of information, on the one hand, and serious uncertainty about the legal regime of the [Caspian Sea], on the other hand, have created very negative analysis and reactions," the daily said.

In another report, Ebtekar said the majority of experts the daily had contacted to discuss the agreement declined to comment "because they didn't know what the convention was about."

The daily added that the government should explain the "decrease of Iran's share to 11 percent" due to the "high sensitivities" that have been created.

Analyst Hossein Aryan suggested that some of the criticism was based on a lack of knowledge about more than two decades of negotiations over how to divide the Caspian Sea among its five littoral states.

"The idea of 50 percent share of Iran that has been floating around has no legal basis. Iran's suggestion of dividing the sea into five equal parts evaporated when Russia under bilateral agreements with Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan divided the northern section of the sea," Aryan said.

Rohani said on August 15 that "some issues remain regarding the southern section of the sea" without providing details.

Zarif, for his part, suggested that Iran would share about 20 percent of the Caspian Sea's resources. "The illusory 11 percent line is no longer valid. Of course, some tried to revive this illusory historical procedure that had been forcibly imposed on Iran during the former regime, but the Islamic republic rejected it," Zarif was quoted as saying in his televised interview.

Who Wins?

A close observer of events around the Caspian, Stanislav Prichtin, tells RFE/RL that such official comments are an attempt by the Iranian government to ease tensions. He says Iran's share of the sea's resources will be decided after negotiations with Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan.

"The main point of the convention is that all territorial issues should be resolved through bilateral negotiations among countries, as was done for the north part of the Caspian Sea," Prichtin said.

Touraj Atabaki, a senior research fellow at the International Institute of Social History in Amsterdam, tells RFE/RL's Radio Farda that Iran's final share is likely to be between 11 and 13 percent of Caspian resources. "At a time when Iran faces its worst situation regarding international ties, this is definitely not to the benefit of the Iranian people and the country's national interests," Atabaki says.

Prichtin, a fellow at Chatham House and a research fellow at the Institute for Oriental Studies at the Russian Academy Of Sciences, says that after more than 20 years of negotiations, "It's difficult to talk about winners and losers."

But he says he believes the convention's prevention of foreign militarization is a win for Russia as well as Iran. "When we're talking about the regional security system, it was of course the idea of Russia and Iran -- from this perspective from the point of view of geopolitics, Russia and Iran are winners," he says.
 
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No, it's not proven, it's just you who likes a certain type of articles! while there are 30 years long studies which say the otherwise:
Do conifers make soil more acid?

but even your own links don't doubt in one thing, that almost no other plant can live beneath this trees (cause it absorbs the whole water!), and that's what Dr Ravazadeh is arguing, in fact it's what many environment activists in Iran are arguing, that why should we waste our precious water resources for a foreign tree which neither produces oxygen nor has any fruits, while we have many alternative native species which at least can do one of them.

so any other B.S?

first it produce oxygen , second it protect soil , third Ravazadeh Says its imported from USA while it was originally from Turkey and Azerbaijan and Georgia . he just mistaken it with another tree .


the people who are against Pine tree (Let I stress here whats their real purpose , They are against it because its also Christmas tree) claim it won't produce oxygen , made soil Acidic so its impossible for other trees grows there , and its useless for wood as it grow slowly .
the funny part is that all of those reasons are myths and fake.
also if you worry about wasting water then stop planting grass which never was part of Iran culture , at least we had pine in Iran.

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and more importantly its not the only thing that Ravazadeh get wrong , read all of what he said specially the part that in USA men and Women not only separated in bus but also there is a curtain between them .
also read fake Hadith he pull out left and write . also his lies about Quran ,
 
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Someone in this forum once told me that we don't need to worry about brain drain cause we are producing many "Engineers" and can replace those who left.
 
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anyone watching asian games?

i will watch wrestling and weightlifting

125kg wrestling freestyle final now, Parviz Hadi is in it

Yazdani and Karimi won gold at 86kg and 97kg already

if anyone wants to watch: http://zendetv.com/irib-varzesh-live

Hadi won the gold at 125kg as well. good showing at freestyle, but we suck at 57-74 kg categories

I also just saw that Rostami and Moradi are both weightlifting at 94kg, what is the logic in this?! rostami should stay at 85kg because they are both world record holders in their weights, now they will be competing in the same weight class? pretty funny that moradi can lift more at 94kg than hashemi can at 105kg
 
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Now imagine a 3rd Lebanon war.
They will be not facing stones, they will be facing the most battle hardened soldiers.
They will be facing Anti tank missiles, Anti Ship missiles, Fateh prescision missiles...
A 3rd Lebanon war will be finished fast, and guess who will be the one with a bloody nose..


 
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Now imagine a 3rd Lebanon war.
They will be not facing stones, they will be facing the most battle hardened soldiers.
They will be facing Anti tank missiles, Anti Ship missiles, Fateh prescision missiles...
A 3rd Lebanon war will be finished fast, and guess who will be the one with a bloody nose..
a few scared soldiers doesn't change much

another lebanon war will be terrible for everyone, especially lebanon...
 
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