Iranian Chill Thread

[Abii]

 

[Tomyris]

OMG

 

[Arminkh]

The movement is a bit organic. For example when it is moving up the stairs, the pace are not consistent. Why would that be?

The window opens inwardly into the building and glass fragments and pieces was found scattered outside the building in the ally as if something from inside hit it and got thruogh the window and shattered it into pieces as photos picture.

Well if you didn't find any pieces inside the house at all then yes, I would say that is probably what happened. Either wind, or someone from inside had slammed the window shut and caused it to break. In this case, the fracture happens due to both deflection of the frame and the glass due to the impact and is really hard to predict how the glass would break.

I case of an impact from outside, some of the pieces should end up inside the house.

 

[New]

I do not understand what you want to know since so many scholars have written so much on these issues and you can read those "scholarly works" . Maybe you are just probing [us] here.

Personally, I see history as inevitable. I believe in inevitability of what has already happened. In this context, I see little reason for revisionism or for re-interpretations leading to fantasy lands, that never existed (and will never exist).

Nations and societies behave pretty much like chaotic systems. Hard to predict. But they eventually settle down for what they really deserve and require. Such was the case of revolution which happened because the calcified and rusted Iranian monarchy could not respond to desires of significant majority of people. And this actually goes way beyond Pahlavi and the roots of Iranian revolution and its causes actually has to be searched in Qajar period IMO. In fact if you wanted to ask a scholarly question, it should not have been what my or others opinion is of revolution and dahe fajr or 15 khordad, but what would have been the opinion of people during Qajar period about these things, had they been alive today. This would have been more instructive.

The yet non-resolved issue of dualism between Western Modernism and Traditional Conservatism which basically came to Iranian society in Qajar era, was the root cause of 15 Khordad. Iranian leaders, scholars, akhonds, politicians and military Generals did not have a deep understanding of history, philosophy, science, arts, society, themselves and even their own religion. Therefore, they could not understand, assimilate with and rectify along, the rapidly changing world around themselves which came out of the enlightenment of Europe and its ever changing flavors. IMO, they still don't and this includes the so called educated general population of Iranians be they of Western inclinations or IR inclination. In short Iranians love to live their lives in the most superficial way, they can possibly can find and cling to. It was the same before 15 khordad and it is the same today.

But over all, was the 15 khordad and the subsequent revolution, a good thing? Hell yeah. It has allowed the Iranian nation to grow in ways that was not possible under monarchy. Societies like individuals need to grow. And this growth has stages and its own unique meaning for different societies. The inevitability of history necessitated Iranian revolution for this stage in growth of Iranian society. Mistakes and errors are of course part and parcel of the growth.

Will it remain forever? I don't know. The answer to this question depends on how IR will solve the centuries old question of dualism between objectivity of Western originated ideas of enlightenment with subjectivity of traditional religion. If they did solve it in a way that allowed further growth, IR will remain in one form or another for a very long time (as for as us mortals can be concerned for eternity). If not, then the inevitability of history can not wait for anyone, even for IR (or rather even IRI, after all there is no guarantee clause in history).

It is rather a waste of time to write these things because I just come here to enjoy trolling .

Thanks man, for not letting me down like others, you just came to be my hero here.
All other points aside, no doubt you are a very knowledgeable individual here, and that's the reason for me to respects you, no matter if what you believe suits me or not.
On your reply, I've got to say, there are some interesting points included, beliefs like seeing the society a chaotic phenomena, that settles down at the point of deserve and require, is a belief of maturity and rationality, especially if you see it a recurrence relation.
I can't say that I am all OK with what you mentioned above, but that defiantly indicates the depth of your view, and that's all respectable and venerable.
However, as you mentioned, I do personally wanted to hear the guys view point, on that incident, and as much as I dug your reply unfortunately I couldn't notice your view points on that specific incident.
I mean I wanted to know if the guys know about the reasons and the causes of the qiam 15 khordad incident, about ayato allah khomeinis standing on that matter, and about the enqelab sefid referendum on the 6th bahman 1341, and what's their view point on that matter.

 

[haman10]

for not letting me down like others

sorry bro

my previous experience advises me to not get political here .

personal beefs will follow

 

[New]

sorry bro

my previous experience advises me to not get political here .

personal beefs will follow

Dude, if it wasn't for the dear daneshmand's reply I would have felt totally let down here.
Not getting political here might be a wise escaping reason, but to be honest that was more like a historical debate than a political inquisition. But frankly thanks for not replying, cause not replying is really much more acceptable and less painful than getting a reply like what dear @Serpentine posted. After reading it I felt like being brown and a bath needed personality. Literally he has replied like, boro baba hal nadarim.

 

[Abii]

The movement is a bit organic. For example when it is moving up the stairs, the pace are not consistent. Why would that be?


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Wouldn't what you're saying actually be inorganic? It's the machine trying to compensate and stabilize itself. If it was organic it would "look" at the stairs and take steps consistent with the height of the stairs, no?

Computer chips get more powerful and smaller every year, as we know, so I wonder what BD will do to these bad boys 10 years from now. I think we're gonna see them in action within the next 20 years. These are perfect for guerrilla warfare and I'm sure the US military would be their first customer. An advanced version of the Big Dog could be used not just for carrying stuff, but also as a shield and even a mobile IED detector/removal unit. These might be fighting in Iran one day.

Edit: check this out:

Big Dog was made in 05. It can now lift stuff and throw shit.

 

[haman10]

Dude, if it wasn't for the dear daneshmand's reply I would have felt totally let down here.
Not getting political here might be a wise escaping reason, but to be honest that was more like a historical debate than a political inquisition. But frankly thanks for not replying, cause not replying is really much more acceptable and less painful than getting a reply like what dear @Serpentine posted. After reading it I felt like being brown and a bath needed personality. Literally he has replied like, boro baba hal nadarim.

lol . if one year ago you asked me the same question i would write articles for you

anyway , @Serpentine is boring :S he does NOT thank anyones post . he does NOT reply to anyone and he is generally self-admiring

JK

 

[Arminkh]

Wouldn't what you're saying actually be inorganic? It's the machine trying to compensate and stabilize itself. If it was organic it would "look" at the stairs and take steps consistent with the height of the stairs, no?

Computer chips get more powerful and smaller every year, as we know, so I wonder what BD will do to these bad boys 10 years from now. I think we're gonna see them in action within the next 20 years. These are perfect for guerrilla warfare and I'm sure the US military would be their first customer. An advanced version of the Big Dog could be used not just for carrying stuff, but also as a shield and even a mobile IED detector/removal unit. These might be fighting in Iran one day.

Well one would think the computer would map the stairs and compute the number of steps required to get up the stairs and follow that calculation. Unless its algorithm is designed to only deal with what is immediately in front of it and not to have an overall plan of where to go and how to get there.

Yes the marine corps is already considering using these types of robots as a transportation means, carrying heavy equipment in the field. There is also another class of products that is like a robotic suit that soldiers wear and it enhances their strength and also act as a shield. Personally I think this is a more potent enhancement than these BDs.

 

[Serpentine]

Dude, if it wasn't for the dear daneshmand's reply I would have felt totally let down here.
Not getting political here might be a wise escaping reason, but to be honest that was more like a historical debate than a political inquisition. But frankly thanks for not replying, cause not replying is really much more acceptable and less painful than getting a reply like what dear @Serpentine posted. After reading it I felt like being brown and a bath needed personality. Literally he has replied like, boro baba hal nadarim.

No bro, that wasn't my intention.

You are right about me not having hosele to write a long answer as I said in previous post too, but I didn't mean to be rude in any way. Anyhow, I apologize if you found my post an impolite one.

lol . if one year ago you asked me the same question i would write articles for you

anyway , @Serpentine is boring :S he does NOT thank anyones post . he does NOT reply to anyone and he is generally self-admiring

JK

 

[haman10]

No bro, that wasn't my intention.

You are right about me not having hosele to write a long answer as I said in previous post too, but I didn't mean to be rude in any way. Anyhow, I apologize if you found my post an impolite one.

ghorboone dastet , een thread ma ru ye dasti be saro roosh bekesh :-*

 

[Daneshmand]

OMG

You are gorgeous, Miss, Tomyris. My compliments.

 

[Abii]

Well one would think the computer would map the stairs and compute the number of steps required to get up the stairs and follow that calculation. Unless its algorithm is designed to only deal with what is immediately in front of it and not to have an overall plan of where to go and how to get there.
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You've got a point. It already has "scanners," but I'm guessing there's nothing sophisticated enough to do what you said just yet. Although designing something like this has its advantages: if there's a malfunction with the "scanners" it can still function on its own by just looking at what's in front of it and it's cheaper.

You are gorgeous, Miss, Tomyris. My compliments.

That's not her you noob. That's some random Iranian model that was famous years back. How do you know this Tomyris character is even a female? Seriously dude.

 

[raptor22]

The movement is a bit organic. For example when it is moving up the stairs, the pace are not consistent. Why would that be?


Well if you didn't find any pieces inside the house at all then yes, I would say that is probably what happened. Either wind, or someone from inside had slammed the window shut and caused it to break. In this case, the fracture happens due to both deflection of the frame and the glass due to the impact and is really hard to predict how the glass would break.

I case of an impact from outside, some of the pieces should end up inside the house.

First of all let me appreciate your kindness and the time you spent to reply me, you're the man.

There was only one single tiny piece of glass shattered inside the building consequently scenario of impacting from outside is ruled out I assume, the wind speed and velocity average was merely around 5 Km/h as Irimo reports indicate so it could not be the reason too and the fact that no similar incident took place neither in nearby and the neighbourhood , therefore and as a matter of fact my conclusion base on your words is that someone slammed its frame or a projectile hit it from inside which I think the last one is much more accurate conclusion.

 

[Daneshmand]

Thanks man, for not letting me down like others, you just came to be my hero here.
All other points aside, no doubt you are a very knowledgeable individual here, and that's the reason for me to respects you, no matter if what you believe suits me or not.
On your reply, I've got to say, there are some interesting points included, beliefs like seeing the society a chaotic phenomena, that settles down at the point of deserve and require, is a belief of maturity and rationality, especially if you see it a recurrence relation.
I can't say that I am all OK with what you mentioned above, but that defiantly indicates the depth of your view, and that's all respectable and venerable.
However, as you mentioned, I do personally wanted to hear the guys view point, on that incident, and as much as I dug your reply unfortunately I couldn't notice your view points on that specific incident.
I mean I wanted to know if the guys know about the reasons and the causes of the qiam 15 khordad incident, about ayato allah khomeinis standing on that matter, and about the enqelab sefid referendum on the 6th bahman 1341, and what's their view point on that matter.

Thanks for your words. Only a learned person of caliber, can and does allow himself to compliment and disagree at the same time.

I thought I was clear enough in my explanation. I knew where you were going with that. The objection of Ayt. Khomeini in regard to termination of feudalism and rights for women to vote etc etc. As I said, much has been written in this regard and I am not a revisionist. When Ayt. Khomeini came to 'absolute' power, he did not revert these changes (could he? We don't know). Whether he was playing politics in 15th Khordad or he really believed in what he did, is irrelevant since we would not learn anything new.

The point I raised and I think; it is clear enough in my previous reply, is that IMO, 15th khordad does not have its origin in such rather "street" politicking or bickering over religious edicts of social order of those days. Certainly not in a religious sermon or an ideological manifesto written by a young priest setting himself up for a political career. The duality fracture was rather deep and it went right through the society, dividing the people. The forces and desires were already there. They just required Ayt. Khomeini and whatever he did on that day or on subsequent days.

As I said, in my previous comment, all these were due to that duality we are experiencing and we still do not have a solution for. Even Ayt. Khomeini who probably was the greatest political philosopher Iran has produced since the time of Cyrus the Great could not solve this problem. It remains the Achilles heel of IR and actually the wider Islamic world and probably even Islam itself.

As you might or not have noted in my reply to you, I am not interested in 'little' debates about particular incidents and rallies, the tactical reasons for this or that protest and such trivialities as who said what (books, magazines, TV and internet are filled with that already). I would rather like stay with my bigger picture analysis and see the philosophical forces behind thought formations of a nation and its historical consequences. I have no interest in 'yellow' intellectualism .

Others of course are entitled to their opinions which they might or not share (I have no control over them ). The courtesy now rather requires that you tell us about your "view point".

That's not her you noob. That's some random Iranian model that was famous years back. How do you know this Tomyris character is even a female? Seriously dude.

I did not say, it is her. I am just having fun with "her" as Haman said, she is the only girl. You have again begun to assume too much . And I do not care whether it is really a her. Living in Canada, you have learned nothing of diversity and respect for others orientations. You really got a long way to go.