Iranian Chill Thread

[Daneshmand]

avvalan takfiri oone ke digaran ro takfir mikone, daghighan hamin kari ke shoma inja kardi,
sanyan man farz kardam hameye azizan inja tavanaee search kardan internet ro daran,
آیا در اسلام نگاهی شبیه اصطلاح جهان وطنی وجود دارد، یا این تنها یک اصطلاح غربی است؟ - گنجینه پاسخ‌ها - اسلام کوئست - مرجعی برای پاسخگویی به سوالات دینی، اعتقادی و شرعی
اندیشه قم؛ تنها مرکز حوزوی پاسخگویی تخصصی به سؤالات و شبهات دینی
کتاب تفسیر المیزان - جلد دوم - قسمت 6

ino ham begam ke man osoolan be in masale eteghadi nadaram

Baz keh bi-adab shodi. Akhlaq aslan nadari.

Man chi kardam? Beh to goftam kafer? Beh ki goftam kafer? Mesleh kesi keh Neurotic hastesh, khodet yeh idea dorost mikoni va beh digaran nesbat midi.

To hamoon tavananee search kardan roo dari. Fekr kardno na. To barayeh man ye Shia biar inja, keh migeh beqair az on Utopia keh Shiaha behesh eteqad daran, misheh yeh Utopia digar ham dasht. Sakht dast e bashar.

To aslan nemidoni chi dari migi. Ya'ani harf dahan e khodetam nemifahmi.

 

[rmi5]

albate man be sheddat mokhalefe nationalisme efrati va kur hastam. manam delam mikhad ba keshvar haie dg mesle EU ye etehadie dashte bashim, kheili ham khube. vali ba tavajoh be jave hakem bar jahan, nemishe goft mardome keshvar ba mardome keshvaraie dg farghi nadaran, hala che khub che bad.
chand hezar sale in in nezam bar jahan hakem hast. ghablesh emperaturiha va hala keshvarha.

vali ma mitunim in harfe shoma ro ba mabahesi mesle tejarate azad, laghve ravadid, ye chizi mesle hamun EU be vagheiat beresunim.


Agar betunan jeloie manabe mali ro begirand ke kheili khube. albate vezarat etelaate Iran bikar nist. bad az ghazie rigi , pjak, sareshun ro az zire barf birun ovordan va bishtar havaseshun hast. dar in sharaiet kari az daste in goruh ha bar nemiad albate. shoma hesab kon tuie keshvari ke 99% jamiat mokhalefe in ideology hastan (hata onaie ke kamelan mokhalefe IR hastan, rabti nadare), in jur goruh ha khatare aslishun chanta bomb gozarie entehari va hamleie terroristi hast. vagarna khialet rahat, etefaghi mesle surie va iraq hich vaght az nazare mazhabi dar iran nemiofte. aksaraie mellat ya shia hastan ya ba din rabeteie khubi nadaran.

vali bazam dare kam kari mishe. nemidunam dalilesh ro. shaiad mikhan bahune nadan dasteshun ke radicalize nashan ke ta haddi dorost hast. vali belakhare mobareze ba hamchin padidei vaghean kare asuni nist. yek jange ideologic hast ke meghdare ziadi pul poshteshe.

bad tar az hame inke ma alan budjeie marzbani mun ham be andaze kafi nist ke khodesho jamo jur kone yekam.

kheili az in moshkelat, kelidesh tuie vojude manabe mali va roshde eghtesadi hast.

Man notification nagereftam dobaareh fekr mikonam ke nafar e dovvomi ke quote misheh, baraash alert zadeh nemisheh
Anyway, man boudjeh saal e ba'd ra ke chand vaght pish montasher shod, ra be deghghat khoundam. ham boudje nezami ham boudjeh ostan ha, ham boudjeh omoumi. kollan boudje nezaami ra ke khoundam, haghighatesh ta 10 daghigheh faghat daashtam mikhandidam. ba in boudjeh ye mozhek, ta 50 saal e digeh ham hich chizi nemitounan besaazan. boudjeh ostan ha ham ke kolli baalaa paayin shodeh. boudjeh omoumi ham ke manaabe'esh dorost ma'loum nist, va faghat makhaarejesh vaghe'i hast. kollan ahmadinejad 3 ta sour zadeh boud be inha

vala chi begam , shoma rast migi doctor jan .


در حدیثی از حضرت علی علیه السلام آمده است:

«عمرت البلدان بحب الاوطان » 1 ؛ «شهرها با حب وطن آباد می شود.»

و در حدیث دیگری از آن حضرت می خوانیم:

«من کرم المرء بکائه علی ما معنی من زمانه و حنینه الی او طایفه» 2 ؛ «از نشانه های ارزش و شخصیت انسان آن است که نسبت به عمر از دست رفته (که در آن کوتاهی کرده است) اشک بریزد و نسبت به وطنش علاقه مند باشد.»

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«واذ اخذنا میثاقکم لا تسفکون دمائکم و لا تخرجون انفسکم من دیارکم »3 ؛ «به یاد آرید زمانی را که ما از شما پیمان گرفتیم که خون های یکدیگر را نریزید و یکدیگر را از وطن های خود بیرون نکنید.»

آیا وطن دوستی ارزش است؟

حب الوطن من الايمان
oun chizi hast ke donbaalesh migardi, vali mafhoum e in jomle ham, chizi be esm e nationalism e emrouzi nist. nationalism yek padideh ye donyaaye modern va ba'd az ijaad e mafhoum e nation-state dar donyaa hast. in jomleh be vatan, be mafhoum e ghom va ghabileh eshaareh daareh va na keshvar. ageh oun daastaani ke ettefaagh oftaade va ba'd in hadith aamade ra bekhouni, motevajjeh mishi ke manzour e hadith chiyeh. ba'zi vaazheh ha mafhoumeshoun ta haddi dar zamaan taghyir kardeh, va misundertand nakonesh.
Hamoun tori ke @New migeh, eslaam dar majmou' yek din e internationalist hast, baar ha az vaazhe ye ommat e vaahedeh estefaadeh shodeh.

 

[New]

Baz keh bi-adab shodi. Akhlaq aslan nadari.

Man chi kardam? Beh to goftam kafer? Beh ki goftam kafer? Mesleh kesi keh Neurotic hastesh, khodet yeh idea dorost mikoni va beh digaran nesbat midi.

To hamoon tavananee search kardan roo dari. Fekr kardno na. To barayeh man ye Shia biar inja, keh migeh beqair az on Utopia keh Shiaha behesh eteqad daran, misheh yeh Utopia digar ham dasht. Sakht dast e bashar.

To aslan nemidoni chi dari migi. Ya'ani harf dahan e khodetam nemifahmi.

 

[atatwolf]

@rmi5

This is one sick ****. Found guilty for sexual and violent abuse, burning his ex-wife and at the same time saying he is an Iranian religious leader.

 

[rmi5]

@rmi5

This is one sick ****. Found guilty for sexual and violent abuse, burning his ex-wife and at the same time saying he is an Iranian religious leader.

It seems that he was converted to wahabism, as @haman10 showed something from his facebook page. Actually, I was just talking with @Serpentine about him, and I was saying that these wahabi groups are free to do their propagandas in Iran, which is a wrong policy of Iranian regime. Many kurds in West Azerbaijan, and Kurdistan province have also converted to wahabism, which is a big danger for us. Some people still don't take the issue seriously.

 

[haman10]

It seems that he was converted to wahabism, as @haman10 showed something from his facebook page. Actually, I was just talking with @Serpentine about him, and I was saying that these wahabi groups are free to do their propagandas in Iran, which is a wrong policy of Iranian regime. Many kurds in West Azerbaijan, and Kurdistan province have also converted to wahabism, which is a big danger for us. Some people still don't take the issue seriously.

vaghean mesle inke khataresh dare be cheshm miad , ke kamelan alarming hastesh .

hamin chand mah pish dar yeki az shahr haye shomal keshvar ye gorouh 7-8 nafare wahabi dastgir kardan .....

gandesh dare dar miad va een mozou ru kamelan ghabul daram .

 

[Serpentine]

This is one sick ****. Found guilty for sexual and violent abuse, burning his ex-wife and at the same time saying he is an Iranian religious leader.

It seems it's a good case for you propagate your lies here.

He is no Iranian religious leader, he was a criminal who escaped Iran 18 years ago.

 

[rmi5]

vaghean mesle inke khataresh dare be cheshm miad , ke kamelan alarming hastesh .

hamin chand mah pish dar yeki az shahr haye shomal keshvar ye gorouh 7-8 nafare wahabi dastgir kardan .....

gandesh dare dar miad va een mozou ru kamelan ghabul daram .

Man ghashang yaadam hast ke chand maah pish ham hamin harfhaa ra tou hamin forum mizadam va mellat migoftan ke na baba, va chert migi va aslan inhaa injouri nistan va ... Haalaa omidvaaram yekam mellat ta'assob ra bezaaran kenaar va bidaar beshand.
Tou jomhouri Azerbaijan, kaari ke mikonand in hast ke be inhaa gheyr e rasmi mifahmounand ke ageh mikhaan, chon ounja hagh e tabligh nadaaran va ... mitounan az keshvar be hamraah e khounevaadeh khaarej beshand(masalan be souriyeh), vali ejaazeh bargasht be keshvar ra nadaarand va ageh bargardand dastgir mishand kollan, ettelaa'aat e Azerbaijan ham har kasi ke yekam ghiyaafash be inha bekhore ra taht e nazar gharaar mideh. In be nazaram siyaasat e manteghi hast.

 

[rmi5]

@Abii @haman10 @Ostad @New @Serpentine @rahi2357 @IRAN 1802
Dobaareh, emrouz yek seri animal e digeh, kesaafat kaari kardand:
Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids.

 

[kollang]

@Abii @haman10 @Ostad @New @Serpentine @rahi2357 @IRAN 1802
Dobaareh, emrouz yek seri animal e digeh, kesaafat kaari kardand:
Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids.

Chera mano mention nemikoni?

 

[New]

Dobaareh, emrouz yek seri animal e digeh, kesaafat kaari kardand:
Peshawar Massacre - TTP kills hundreds of school kids.

You think, are we allowed to declare the status:
"World gone crazy"
And should we change our prayers to:
"Oh, dear Lord, please save me from your followers"
And if a God exists, why shouldn't we believe that while he is watching the world he is whispering:
"Mission failed"

 

[rmi5]

You think, are we allowed to declare the status:
"World gone crazy"
And should we change our prayers to:
"Oh, dear Lord, please save me from your followers"
And if a God exists, why shouldn't we believe that while he is watching the world he is whispering:
"Mission failed"

I think if he exists, he simply does not give a shit, and prefers to eat his popcorn and watch the show, like a boss

 

[New]

I think if he exists, he simply does not give a shit, and prefers to eat his popcorn and watch the show, like a boss

On a serious note, I think it is time to confess, political religion has failed it's final chance.

 

[rmi5]

On a serious note, I think it is time to confess, political religion has failed it's final chance.

It was finally failed like 4-5 centuries ago. Yet, only some backward countries cannot comprehend it, so try to push it more and more into 21st century.

 

[haman10]

On a serious note, I think it is time to confess, political religion has failed it's final chance.

didn't find the relation between that and this massacre .... so ....