Iranian Chill Thread

[kollang]

No matter how crazy IS looks, but they are not idiots. Opening a new front with Iran, that's a suicide for them. They are not stupid, at least that seems to be the case in their war strategies. If they do attack Iran, I'll believe they are too stupid though.

Then care to explain why they are breaching into Kurdistan region(in order to approach To Iranian border)instead of focusing on other major frontlines.why are they looking for khaneghin?

 

[Serpentine]

Then care to explain why they are breaching into Kurdistan region instead of focusing on other major frontlines.why are they looking for khaneghin?

Perhaps they want to capture all northern routes to Baghdad? I can't say for sure what's going on in their minds. What I know is that IS chooses its battles wisely. They wait even weeks to attack a place in proper time, with strategy.

But who knows? Maybe their ideology overcomes their strategy to start their 'crusade' against Iran, but it will be end of IS 'good days'. I just hope if that happens, we respond with full force, not just limited strikes.

 

[IR1907]

Perhaps they want to capture all northern routes to Baghdad? I can't say for sure what's going on in their minds. What I know is that IS chooses its battles wisely. They wait even weeks to attack a place in proper time, with strategy.

But who knows? Maybe their ideology overcomes their strategy to start their 'crusade' against Iran, but it will be end of IS 'good days'. I just hope if that happens, we respond with full force, not just limited strikes.

Only thing i am afraid is when we are in fight with them that we just dont fight them only at border areas ! We must push them all the way to Western Iraq and finish off this plague that has gripped the region for good.

 

[kollang]

Perhaps they want to capture all northern routes to Baghdad? I can't say for sure what's going on in their minds. What I know is that IS chooses its battles wisely. They wait even weeks to attack a place in proper time, with strategy.

But who knows? Maybe their ideology overcomes their strategy to start their 'crusade' against Iran, but it will be end of IS 'good days'. I just hope if that happens, we respond with full force, not just limited strikes.

age una betunan ba raket parakaniye khafif be iran, iran ro tahrik be modakheleye nezami konand, unvaght tedade bishomari sunniye efrati az sar ta sare aalam baraye jang ba ma shi'e ha ba daesh beyat mikonan.shayad in hadafeshun bashe.

 

[IR1907]

Oon sunni ha ke mikhastan ba Shiye ha bejangan hamin alan dar daesh hastan. Ziad farghi nemikone

 

[rmi5]

Perhaps they want to capture all northern routes to Baghdad? I can't say for sure what's going on in their minds. What I know is that IS chooses its battles wisely. They wait even weeks to attack a place in proper time, with strategy.

But who knows? Maybe their ideology overcomes their strategy to start their 'crusade' against Iran, but it will be end of IS 'good days'. I just hope if that happens, we respond with full force, not just limited strikes.

I doubt if they immediately attack on Iran. It's too soon for them to do so. BTW, the problem in your analysis is that you don't consider that in case of a war with IS, they would not only flood to Iran from Iraq border, but they would also attack from Eastern borders as well, and there would be hundreds of thousands of new jihadists who would join them from all sunni countries. So, they would get ten times stronger if they declare war on Iran.

 

[Serpentine]

age una betunan ba raket parakaniye khafif be iran, iran ro tahrik be modakheleye nezami konand, unvaght tedade bishomari sunniye efrati az sar ta sare aalam baraye jang ba ma shi'e ha ba daesh beyat mikonan.shayad in hadafeshun bashe.

Are shaiad hamin bashe. Vali hamchin chizi ta vaghti ke hemaiate dakheli tuie iran nadashte bashe be jaie nemirese. khoshbakhtane hemaiate dakheli az daesh vojud nadare va agar bashe be rahati ghabele sarkub hast.
shaiad betunan tuie marz ye seri dargirie mokhtasar ijad konand, vali ghat'an jang be dakhele Iran keshide nakhahad shod.

10 barabare on efrati ha adam davtalab hast ke bere bahashun bejange. man negarane daesh nistam ke bekhad kare khasi bokone. vali shaiad negarane on marz neshin haie azizi basham ke momkene az har jangi asib bebinan. ona kheili hasassan va baiad tavajohe vijeh be amniate onha beshe.

I doubt if they immediately attack on Iran. It's too soon for them to do so. BTW, the problem in your analysis is that you don't consider that in case of a war with IS, they would not only flood to Iran from Iraq border, but they would also attack from Eastern borders as well, and there would be hundreds of thousands of new jihadists who would join them from all sunni countries. So, they would get ten times stronger if they declare war on Iran.

It's not like they can flood in to Iran. Unlike Iraq and Syria, Iran doesn't suffer from domestic violence and hence, any IS intruder will be identified quite easily for 2 main reasons:

1. They have no support base in the country, nothing worth noting I mean. People with all kinds of political views despise them. I am not counting some rare maniacs who may support them.

2. IS members can't speak Persian or other languages used in Iran. Khuzestan province is safe because it borders Shia areas of Iraq.

To sum it up, IS can't do anything inside Iran, however they may launch some Kamikaze attacks in border areas, security checkpoints in borders or launching short range rockets inside Iran.

 

[Ostad]

age manzouret azari haye irane , ke dorost migi . irani irani hast . tooye jang az kurd ta lur va fars va azari shahid shodan .

kermanshah dar khatar bood , azari ha oomadan komak .

azarbaijan dar khatar bood , kermanshahi ha oumadan . vase hamine jozve ye keshvarim . vase hamine "hamvatan" esmemoone .

vagarna system ghabile ie che moshkeli dasht ?

yad she'r maroof saadi oftadam



vaghean fekr nemikardam khorafati bashi

khob bebin mesle inke iran komak kheyli ha mikone . iran be armani ha selah mide . iran be taliban va ISIS va al ghaede selah mide . iran be cartel haye hashish mexici pool mide ta beran amaliate terroristi tooye amrika anjam bedan

1-shoma bayad mesle bache ha raftar nakoni va harf bedoon sanad ghabul nakoni . kodoom selah armani sakht iran bood ? va tooye kodoom jang estefade shode ?

aks azashoon hast ? (be soorat anbooh) ?

2- DALIL iran vase een kar chi boode ? koshtan mardom shi'eye hamsaye ? defa az armanestan ?

be alave tooye jang akhir hast ke iran ba azarbaijan moshkel dare , tooye jang ghara bagh ke iran hich moshkeli ba azaribaijan nadasht een film ha sookhtan baradar man .

faghat moonde propagandaye dolat ilham aliyef biad va mardom ma ru khar kone



azizami .

bebin man dooset daram , hich elati ham nadare joz inke iraooni hasti va khoon garmi .

age oomadi kermanshah (ghar bood biay chi shod pa ?) ya man oomadam oun tarafa kheyli doost daram az nazdik bebinamet va ba ham harf bezanim .

ali yare shoma ham bashe dadash

mikham bikhial post kardaned link besham.(ageh mikhay khodet to net search kon)
avalan aliyev ye dictatoreh va hameyeh dictator ha tarikh masraf daran.
dovom estedlaleh hamvatanet, haman ye khordeh eshkal dareh. masalan alan mageh tio israel yahodi haye shiraz va azarbayjan va esfahan zendegi nemikonan? amalan moshakeh irani dareh samteh irani shellik mishe.
3vom shoma farz kon in toteyeh sehyonist hast. bia ye jor digeh be gazieh negah konim.
fardeh X y daraye moshakhase hoviyatie a hast. in fard mikhad in hoviat ajdadish ro negah dareh. 2 grouh vojod dareh yeki ke gasd dareh moshakhaseye a ro hazf kone va ye grouhe dige ke in moshakhase ro na tanha gaboul mikoneh balkeh emkanat jahateh parvareshe in moshakhase dar ekhtiyar X gharar mideh, khob X bekodom taraf tamayol peyda mikoneh.?

 

[kollang]

Oon sunni ha ke mikhastan ba Shiye ha bejangan hamin alan dar daesh hastan. Ziad farghi nemikone

Na aziz!Kheyli az un ha ba molaheze ye inke suriye va aragh tush sunni haye ziyadi hast va momkene juneshun be khatar biyofte, nemiran bejangand.masalan age beran suriye bayad sunni haye al nusre ro bokoshan.

Vali irani ha hame shie hastan va iran qule marhale akhareshune.shayad yeho didi ye melyun nafar pashodand umadan khavarmiyane ke bejangand.hala ye melyun na!100000 nafar!

Had aghalesh ine ke chandin hezar nafar shahid migiran az ma va amalan eghtesademun ro nabud tar az ini ke hast mikonan.

 

[-SINAN-]

Only thing i am afraid is when we are in fight with them that we just dont fight them only at border areas ! We must push them all the way to Western Iraq and finish off this plague that has gripped the region for good.

Mate, this is the thing i said before in one of our threads...

ISIS is not dumb to open up a brand new front with power players in the region aka Turkey, Iran, KSA.....they won't risk their newly founded "Caliphate".

So let's say some how Iran got in fight with the ISIS... their attacks will be car bombs on the border gates, some limited hit and run tactics on the remote outposts...

To deal with them efficiently Iran has to move in to Iraq...and after then game would start. ISIS would simply fall back (they can fall back all the way back to Syria, attack your supply line, IED's on the advancing Iranian army, Snipings time to time...

In the end....yes a determined Iran will finish off the ISIS in the region but to what end.So much resources wasted for Iran....

One of the Turkish Generals whom i deeply respect...once said " If you have some other people willing to fight your war, never fight that war."

 

[rmi5]

It's not like they can flood in to Iran. Unlike Iraq and Syria, Iran doesn't suffer from domestic violence and hence, any IS intruder will be identified quite easily for 2 main reasons:

1. They have no support base in the country, nothing worth noting I mean. People with all kinds of political views despise them. I am not counting some rare maniacs who may support them.

2. IS members can't speak Persian or other languages used in Iran. Khuzestan province is safe because it borders Shia areas of Iraq.

To sum it up, IS can't do anything inside Iran, however they may launch some Kamikaze attacks in border areas, security checkpoints in borders or launching short range rockets inside Iran.

They would have a good support from Baluch regions. Also, about 10% of Iraqi kurds, and some kurds of Iran(unknown percentage) are salafists as well, and they can start to mess around as well. BTW, there are many afghan and Pakistani, and kurds, and baluch jihadists who can speak farsi fluently, and know Iran very well. But, IS has proved to choose their goals and plans very wisely. I doubt if they start to do a massive attack against Iran, before they solve their issues in Iraqi kurdistan.

 

[Ostad]

Akh, akh, man ashegh in ehsasati boodane Iraniha hastam,
@Ostad @haman10 shoma hardo ensanhaye khoob va doost dashtani hastid
Ma iraniha na tarikh khafani darim, (az room o eskandar gerefte ta afghan o moghol o rusia o arabha o britain o osmani o porteghali o hame o hame oomadan rikhtan in mamlekato gereftan) amma be tanha chizi ke mitoonim eftekhar konim hamin ehsasate pake iraniha ba har rango o ghom hast ke dar toole tarikh in marzo boom ro dar kenare ham nagah dashte, va man be shakhse asheghesham
vaghean ke:
ما برای پرسیدن نام گلی ناشناس چه سفرها کرده ایم، چه سفرها کرده ایم

ما برای بوسیدن خاک سر قله ها چه خطرها کرده ایم، چه خطرها کرده ایم

ما برای آنکه ایران گوهری تابان شود خون دلها خورده ایم

خون دلها خورده ایم

ما برای آنکه ایران خانه خوبان شود رنج دوران برده ایم

رنج دوران برده ایم

ما برای بوئیدن بوی گل نسترن چه سفرها کرده ایم، چه سفرها کرده ایم

ما برای نوشیدن شورابه های کویر چه خطرها کرده ایم، چه خطرها کرده ایم

ما برای خواندن این قصه عشق به خاک خون دلها خورده ایم

خون دلها خورده ایم

ما برای جاودانه ماندن این عشق پاک رنج دوران برده ایم

رنج دوران برده ایم

@New ye soal tadriseh zabaneh madari to madares chizeh na magoul va na motarefi hast barayeh khastan.?

 

[rmi5]

Mate, this is the thing i said before in one of our threads...

ISIS is not dumb to open up a brand new front with power players in the region aka Turkey, Iran, KSA.....they won't risk their newly founded "Caliphate".

So let's say some how Iran got in fight with the ISIS... their attacks will be car bombs on the border gates, some limited hit and run tactics on the remote outposts...

To deal with them efficiently Iran has to move in to Iraq...and after then game would start. ISIS would simply fall back (they can fall back all the way back to Syria, attack your supply line, IED's on the advancing Iranian army, Snipings time to time...

In the end....yes a determined Iran will finish off the ISIS in the region but to what end.So much resources wasted for Iran....

One of the Turkish Generals whom i deeply respect...says " If you have some other people willing to fight your war, never fight that war."

Iran would not directly attack them in Iraq, since she has no international support, and it can only increase the hatred of sunnis about Iran and increase the sanctions immediately. There was some talks in Iran, to attack IS, at least by using air force, when they reach to 100km distance from Iran border, but, now we see that they have reached to less than 50km distance from border, and Iran does nothing, which is what I exactly expecting due to the above reasons.
BTW, Iran has already used all of her capabilities and her allies capabilities against IS. So, no miracle would happen even if they directly attack on IS in Iraq. The only non-used forces of Iran, are her army(ground force, which is consisted of bunch of untrained conscripts who most of them, have not even touched a real weapon), and the IRIAF which would be the only useful force that is left for Iran and her allies.

 

[Serpentine]

They would have a good support from Baluch regions. Also, about 10% of Iraqi kurds, and some kurds of Iran(unknown percentage) are salafists as well, and they can start to mess around as well. BTW, there are many afghan and Pakistani, and kurds, and baluch jihadists who can speak farsi fluently, and know Iran very well. But, IS has proved to choose their goals and plans very wisely. I doubt if they start to do a massive attack against Iran, before they solve their issues in Iraqi kurdistan.

What I know about Kurds is that they always take their 'Kurdishness' before religion. Number of Salafi Kurds is just too small.
You could say that for a different situation, but now, IS is killing Kurds in Iraq, no Kurds will side with them anywhere.

In Baluchestan, Rigi couldn't recruit many people, 1000 at most. IS didn't exist back then, I don't see why they may be able to absorb more Baluchs than Rigi who was also a Baluch?

Over all, I'm not worried about an IS incursion in to Iran, but lives of those people and border guards who are near the Iraqi border.

 

[haman10]

mikham bikhial post kardaned link besham.(ageh mikhay khodet to net search kon)
avalan aliyev ye dictatoreh va hameyeh dictator ha tarikh masraf daran.
dovom estedlaleh hamvatanet, haman ye khordeh eshkal dareh. masalan alan mageh tio israel yahodi haye shiraz va azarbayjan va esfahan zendegi nemikonan? amalan moshakeh irani dareh samteh irani shellik mishe.
3vom shoma farz kon in toteyeh sehyonist hast. bia ye jor digeh be gazieh negah konim.
fardeh X y daraye moshakhase hoviyatie a hast. in fard mikhad in hoviat ajdadish ro negah dareh. 2 grouh vojod dareh yeki ke gasd dareh moshakhaseye a ro hazf kone va ye grouhe dige ke in moshakhase ro na tanha gaboul mikoneh balkeh emkanat jahateh parvareshe in moshakhase dar ekhtiyar X gharar mideh, khob X bekodom taraf tamayol peyda mikoneh.?

ghataan grouhi ke emkanat dar ekhtiareshoon mizare . hala ghasdet az matrah kardan een mozo chi bood dadash ?

@New ye soal tadriseh zabaneh madari to madares chizeh na magoul va na motarefi hast barayeh khastan.?

bebin dadash , avalan tooye kole jahan hich keshvari ru peyda nemikoni ke biad va zaban haye local va mahali ru tadris kone .

2voman khob mage kurd ha nistan ? mage balouch nist , arab nist gilak nist lu nist ? chera ina eteraz nadaran ?

javab een soal mano bede :

kermanshahi ha kurdan doroste ? ta hala kermanshah oomadi ? midooni mardom ba che felakati zendegi mikonan ? hala ba tabriz moghayese kon !! khoda sad hezar martabe shokr ke tabriz enghad ba safa va pishraftast . ama jaleb injast ke mardom kermanshah een mozo ru dark mikonan va hich eterazi nadaran .

khob hala farz kon jaye kermanshah va tabriz bar aks bood . khodaeesh shoma eterazatet 100 million barabar nemishod ? allah vakili mishod .

ama ma hamamoon irani hastim va khoonemoon az ham dige rangi tar nist .

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ALBATE : man ba een mozo ke azari ha hagh daran dars amoozesh azari dashte bashan movafegham , ama een mozo boodgeye besiar kalan keshvari mikhad ke dar hale hazer keshvar tavan pardakhtesho nadare .

maslan man khonevadeye madarim azari balad nistan yani farsi sohbat mikonan . een mozoo edame dashte bashe ta 100 sale dige hameye zaban haye mahalli iran az beyn mire

be alave kelas haye khossosi ke ban nistan . mardom mitoonan be kelas haye kharej az madrese bebaran bache hashoono

What I know about Kurds is that they always take their 'Kurdishness' before religion. Number of Salafi Kurds is just too small.
You could say that for a different situation, but now, IS is killing Kurds in Iraq, no Kurds will side with them anywhere.

In Baluchestan, Rigi couldn't recruit many people, 1000 at most. IS didn't exist back then, I don't see why they may be able to absorb more Baluchs than Rigi who was also a Baluch?

Over all, I'm not worried about an IS incursion in to Iran, but lives of those people and border guards who are near the Iraqi border.

R U for real bro?

why do u quote someone who u know is a troll and continues to spew BS ?