Iranian boats attempted to seize British tanker

[Mithridates]

Iran also pays insurance , i fail to see the logic.

no we don't, part of the US sanctions aimed at our tankers insurances.

 

[sammuel]

no we don't, part of the US sanctions aimed at our tankers insurances.

Seems Iran st the moment cover all costs and risks including insurance :

" In May 2018, when the Trump administration re-imposed unilateral sanctions against Iran after the complete withdrawal from the JCPOA, China started to shift its petroleum cargo to ships owned by the NITC to maintain or even increase imports from Iran. It was not immediately clear, which entities would provide insurance for those shipments worth $1.5 billion a month. Zhuhai Zhenrong Corp. and Sinopec Group have activated a business clause in their long term supply agreement with NIOC, and likely Iran will cover all the costs and risks, including insurance, for the delivery of the crude.[13] "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Iranian_Tanker_Company

 

[Crystal-Clear]

only thing make it a fake or forged news is the presence of usa's plane at the same place at the same time .
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i wont be surprised if in coming days they will try to move an oil tanker through iranian water and when/if iran reacts they will portray it as an attack on their ship.

 

[Arsalan 345]

This news is not fake,this happened in reality.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1149439013507555329

 

[Arminkh]

Iran also pays insurance , i fail to see the logic.

Because of the sanctions, now we sell through land to Turkey, Pakistan and even sometimes Iraq and Russia. So Iran can put the insurance premium in its pocket.

On the other hand, increase in oil price beyond a certain level will put pressure on US as everyone will blame them for increase in prices.

The insurance premium that Iran is supposed to cover for China is coming from Iran itself. So Iran's threat is not going to increase the premium for the insurance that Iran provides itself.

This news is not fake,this happened in reality.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1149439013507555329

That is the wrong side of the straight. All vessels shown are in Emirates territorial waters and retreat towards Emirate.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Because of the sanctions, now we sell through land to Turkey, Pakistan and even sometimes Iraq and Russia. So Iran can put the insurance premium in its pocket.

On the other hand, increase in oil price beyond a certain level will put pressure on US as everyone will blame them for increase in prices.

The insurance premium that Iran is supposed to cover for China is coming from Iran itself. So Iran's threat is not going to increase the premium for the insurance that Iran provides itself.


That is the wrong side of the straight. All vessels shown are in Emirates territorial waters and retreat towards Emirate.

Kindly read this news below and match the picture of BBC news article to the picture provided by Aurora Intel.it is clear that Iran tried to seize this tanker,thanks to British warship for saving the tanker.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/07/1...h-tanker/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

 

[Arminkh]

Kindly read this news below and match the picture of BBC news article to the picture provided by Aurora Intel.it is clear that Iran tried to seize this tanker,thanks to British warship for saving the tanker.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/07/10/politics/iran-attempted-seize-british-tanker/index.html?r=https://www.google.com/

You didn't get my point. The three moving objects on Aurora Intel come North side and go towards south which is where Emirate's shores is. If they were Iranian boats and were retreating, they they would go back towards Iran which is on the north side.

I had red this news:

A British Ministry of Defense source told CNN that it "appeared that the Iranian vessels were trying to divert the Heritage from international to Iranian waters" before the British Navy ship HMS Montrose "got between them and issued a verbal warning to withdraw."

"Appeared" to me means British Frigate overreacted. When you want to divert a ship you board it and that can be done with a navy helicopter as well.

 

[zartosht]

cant believe people still arguing over this fake news...

besides PR, there Is also a very real motive:

Jeremy Hunt pledges to reverse cuts to Navy amid Iran row

Jeremy Hunt has promised to reverse cuts to the size of the Royal Navy if he becomes prime minister.

Writing in the Telegraph, Mr Hunt said events in the Gulf showed the navy needed more warships.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48958359

this is propaganda for their weapons industry to get more funding.

 

[gambit]

You think Iran would start an engagement in that way? You expected a firefight by those 3 speedboats?

Yes. Otherwise, what is the point? Just harassment?

You sound confused, too much time spent on f-16.net ?

How about in the cockpit of one? I will introduce myself: Am USAF veteran. F-111 Cold War, then F-16 Desert Storm.

 

[raptor22]

Yes. Otherwise, what is the point? Just harassment?


How about in the cockpit of one? I will introduce myself: Am USAF veteran. F-111 Cold War, then F-16 Desert Storm.

Mr gambit you absolutely have no clue about Iran and how it acts & thinks and that is blessing for us ... what is clear for now is Iran would not act in a game designed by you ... but you'll see the results in due time ...
Iran has:
1. Shot down your hundred millions $ worth drone and you did nothing.. as you didn't do anything back in 2011 when we captured your Rq-170 the so-called "Beast of kandahar" .. actually we have a collection of your drones .. as you have done nothing for arresting your military boats for several times when your solders cried like little boys ...

2. Your president promised that every Iranian boat try to approach your navy would be shot off the water

Not only that has never happened Iran has done more since then:

We even have made you to speak Persian :

3. We've screwed your allies 24/7 for the past 4 years in Yemen .. not you not none them have done anything against us .. not you didn't want to but in fact you couldn't.
4. there are many more examples but let leave it to this for now ...

On the other hand Stealing like a pirate , lying and acting like 2 years old kid trying to demonize others on false claims these typical behavior of yours & acts have got you no where the future is gonna be the same ... so I can assure you British colonial power or pirates of Queen are gonna face difficult times .... the savages have no way to get into Iran:

But for sure:

 

[PeeD]

Yes. Otherwise, what is the point? Just harassment?

Apart from piloting an aircraft, here is a challenge for you:
- You threat to retaliate a boarding of your tanker
- You know that the opponents escorts his tanker by a frigate/destroyer
- You send 3 speedboats, likely only armed with a 12,7mm HMG

Is your conclusion that they wanted to start a engagement or board it?

Or was it a signal, a message, a statement? Change of modus operandi? Change of RoE? Change of situation?

Apart from the fact that IRGC HMG armed boats regularly check U.S.N warships and come very close... lets say that they really wanted to board the tanker...

Whatever... just look at the result: No transit without escort possible anymore. Iran can cost effectively board any UK ship at will with a few small boats if it is not escorted by a ocean going warship.
Quite smart from economical perspective at least, without feelings for a revenge (for now).

How about in the cockpit of one? I will introduce myself: Am USAF veteran. F-111 Cold War, then F-16 Desert Storm.

You mentioned it. It's the internet so I don't feel comfortable to talk about my background nor would it have any value, as its just the internet...

 

[gambit]

Apart from piloting an aircraft, here is a challenge for you:
- You threat to retaliate a boarding of your tanker
- You know that the opponents escorts his tanker by a frigate/destroyer
- You send 3 speedboats, likely only armed with a 12,7mm HMG

Is your conclusion that they wanted to start a engagement or board it?

The victim -- or intended victim -- cannot afford to take a chance that all Iran can do is harass. We have to be prudent and assume the worst.

But as time passes, it will be clear that the Iranian Navy can do nothing more than to be an annoyance under that assumption. A warship will provide escorts, insurance rates will decline, and commerce will go on as usual.

And finally...That swarming tactic that you guys have been betting your Internet reputation on -- zilch.

 

[PeeD]

It seems you are not aware that Iran's power is based on anti-ship cruise and anti-ship ballistic missiles.

Swarm tactics play a insignificant and limited role these days. Regular IRI navy ships are also a insignificant force.

Nothing will remain afloat inside the Persian Gulf in the case of war.

If you just knew about the numbers of missiles inside mountain tunnels...

 

[Arsalan 345]

You didn't get my point. The three moving objects on Aurora Intel come North side and go towards south which is where Emirate's shores is. If they were Iranian boats and were retreating, they they would go back towards Iran which is on the north side.

I had red this news:

A British Ministry of Defense source told CNN that it "appeared that the Iranian vessels were trying to divert the Heritage from international to Iranian waters" before the British Navy ship HMS Montrose "got between them and issued a verbal warning to withdraw."

"Appeared" to me means British Frigate overreacted. When you want to divert a ship you board it and that can be done with a navy helicopter as well.

Abu musa is a disputed island.this island name written clearly on BBC article and also Aurora Intel data provide details.it is true that Irani boats moved towards emirati coast.they were their even yesterday.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Abu musa is a disputed island.this island name written clearly on BBC article and also Aurora Intel data provide details.it is true that Irani boats moved towards emirati coast.they were their even yesterday.

Bahrain, UAE are also considered disputed areas.