First it was the arabs for 400 years and then much later the Turkics
nah boy, not much later, your entire map has been under Turko-Iranics for more than a Millenium starting from 861 AD-whenever the British arrived in India. Arab rule was there but was limited to the coastal state of Sindh and left no mark because you people did not speak (a) Arabic but Persian (an Iranic language) was your official/Ruling class language for centuries. (b) J1-M267, the martial Arab haplogroup of Hashemits, Rashiduns and Umayyads is almost missing in Pakistan despite all the Syed claims. All in all Arab legacy in south asia is much much much lesser than Irano-Turkic legacy.
Here is the story of Turko-Iranic legacy in Pakistan (lets assume you always existed as a separate entity).
Saffarid (Persian)
Samanid (Tajik/Persian, Famous for creating the mamluk Turkic Slave entity)
Ghaznavid (Mamluk Turks)
Ghori (Tajiks)
Mamluk (Turkic from Samanids)
Khalaj (Turkic or Iranic ?)
Tughlaq (Mamluk)
Timurid (Turko-Mongols but highly Turkified/Iranicised in culture and Language)
Lodhi (Ghilzai Afghan)
Mughal (Uzbek Turks of Mixed regional origin)
Suri (Afghan)
Saffavid (Azeris majorly, Kurds, Persians, Afghans included)
Afshar (Iranian Turkoman, later became Azeris)
Durrani (Bactarian Afghan)
Ghori's origin are shrouded in mystery esp. because he didnt have any off-springs.His successor was a turkic (Aibak)..
whatever your local school is teaching you is not agreed by world-renowned western Professors with more peer-reviewed publications than anyone. Ghori empires Tajik descent is written by
authentic western research professors like emeritus Prof. Andre Wink, and Prof. Bosworth from top universities in the world. Please read the work of western scholars with peer-reviewed authentic conclusions on Tajik origin of Ghori Empire which ruled India:-
"The Shansabānī dynasty superseded the Ghaznavids in the second half of the twelfth century. This dynasty was not of Turkish, nor even Afghan, but of eastern Tājīk origin, speaking a distinct Persian dialect of its own, like the rest of the inhabitants of the remote and isolated mountain region of Ghūr and its capital of Fīrūzkūh (in what is now central Afghanistan)"
References
- Encyclopaedia of Islam, "Ghurids", C.E. Bosworth, Online Edition, 2006: "... The Shansabānīs were, like the rest of the Ghūrīs, of eastern Iranian Tājik stock ..."
- Wink 2020, p. 78.
- Bosworth 2001b, pp. 586–590.
- Wink, André (2010). "The early expansion of Islam in India". In Morgan, David O.; Reid, Anthony (eds.). The New Cambridge History of Islam, Volume 3: The Eastern Islamic World, Eleventh to Eighteenth Centuries. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 96. ISBN 978-0-521-85031-5.
Challenge Wink and Bosworth ? be my Guest.
and you seem to think that Turkic is like some different thing than Iranic. We Oghuz Turkic of west Asia and Iranics are almost the same people genetically and even culturally, look at our almost same genetics in a plot below. Iranian and Turkic are more of a cultural identity then anything else. Almost every country in west Asia is Turko-Iranic mixture and we have never fought a single war with eachother post Islam over ethnicity. Groups that ruled you or gave you Islam were also mixture of these ethnicities and cultures.
Iran (Azeri, Persian, Kurdish)
Turkey (Turkish, Kurdish)
Azerbaijan (Azeri, Talysh, Tats, Kurds)
Afghanistan (Tajik, Pashtun, Uzbek)
Tajikistan (Tajik, Pashtun, Uzbek)
Uzbekistan (Uzbek, Tajik)
Nader shah was also a turkic but from safavid empire
Wrong. Nader shah was a Turkoman from Afshar tribe in Iran, has nothing to do with Safavids who were Turkified Kurds. We Afshars are Proud Iranians. The current Chief of Iranian Armed Forces is also an Afshar Turk (General Bagheri).
And his commander durrani was born in Multan (Pakistan)...he was a local..
And I am a slavic LOCAL man of Europe because I was born in a slavic country. wtf. Getting born in a place with foreign genetics and culture does not make one a local, esp if the man in question is a colonizing master in Ahmed Shah's case. By your theory, some 20 Greek Kings born in North India were also Indians just because their daddy's were greek rulers of North India or even better, British rulers of India who may have had children born in India must have been Indians right? Locals like their colonized race.
To differentiate between Hepthalite/Abdali/Durrani Afghans and Punjabi Pakistanis what could be better than pure genetics. How can an Iranic Afghan of Hephathalite Bactarian descent be a
local in Indic subcontinent? Please explain to me when they are massively different genes.
Clearly you are low IQ retard.
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It is just that Iran intervenes in our country through various terrorist organizations ( Al zinabiyon brigade) and etc.
Has your country/military designated the Zenabiyoun brigade as a terrorist organization? NO
Have we kidnapped these boys from their homes to fight for us? NO
Did they leave their homes to fight for us by their own will and faith? YES
Did Pakistani authorities stop those people from joining 10 different nationalities in Syria? NO
Have Pakistanis fought in other people's wars before? YES
Were they paid for the job they did? YES (much better than what Saudis, Emiratis pay your kind for menial jobs, atleast job of a soldier is far more respected)
Were they respected as warriors who fought American-Israeli-sponsored ISIS? YES
I do not seem to find where it is a wrong thing or an Iranian fault? People are free to do what they want to do in modern times.
Pakistani Shias participate in Iranian wars and chant praises of Iran and for your terrorist Mullahs. Some even had vigils for that BBQed Solemani
Of course, they do, Iran-Iraq are theocratic countries. Every Shia in this world would look towards its theocratic centers, just like how Sunni extremists would do anything for US-sponsored Saudis even if Saoodis, Emiratis open the Israeli Zion embassy in Mecca (they are already doing that but in Riyadh, Dubai). Theocratic countries always have that advantage. Iraq might take this role in the future from Iran. They are far more radical Shias than us anyways.
Ofcourse there would be retaliation to all such antagonistic behaviors.
"Retaliate" against your countrymen for all I care. I respect pakistani shias as much as I respect any other shia in the world. Lovely people.
Keep that race and ethnic issue out of it since that is not what is talked about but I don't think you would refrain from that since LOW IQ rafidies , muttah practicising illegitimate bastards are hyper fixated on it.
Race and ethnicity has everything to do with sects. I would not hate another group of my own country over something that I was not even part of. Shias and Sunnis have never ever clashed in wars in the entire history of Islam except for Fatmid-Abbasids or Ottoman vs Saffavids. Why would a south Asian get emotional for something that he was never part of? You are hating your own countrymen over sects which are not created by your people, but were given to you by conquering groups from MENA? Had those groups be tengrists or zionists, you would have been writing tengri or zion poems right now. This is how stupid low IQ sectarian people like you are. keep going for all I care because you are blabbering against your own people not mine. Spare me the "shia sunni pride in south asia".
