Iranian Arabs

[Surenas]

@Surenas

How about Dilber Khanum? Sounds Turkish to me.

Khanom is a Persian name I think, although the word Khan is in it. Dilber sounds Turkic.

 

[Doritos11]

Quit your usual trolling and nonsense, Mr. Jabouri.

He doesn’t want to argue with me regarding that, trust me he’s the king of puppets, so are all previous and current Hashemite leaders, also the ones we had.

 

[al-Hasani]

He doesn’t want to argue with me regarding that, trust me he’s the king of puppets, so are all previous and current Hashemite leaders, also the ones we had.

By your logic then every leader is/was a puppet. We got that.

Now stick to topic.

I think the whole world prefers Jordan's ruler than Al-Maliki. He is such a boring figure. King Abdullah II of Jordan on the other hand is well-respected and educated leader that has done a lot of good.

 

[Surenas]

He doesn’t want to argue with me regarding that, trust me he’s the king of puppets, so are all previous and current Hashemite leaders, also the ones we had.

No offense, but I do agree with this. They have sided together with the British even against the Turks, who were their fellow Sunni Islamic brothers.

 

[Doritos11]

No offense, but I do agree with this. They have sided together with the British even against the Turks.

Also betrayed Saddam in 2003 allowing US forces to use it’s soil to invade while both were friends. US influence and control of those Hashemite kings is large, they can’t resist any of it.
Betrayed the Arabs in 1973 warning Israel.
Allowed an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel in Jordan that sent oil for free to Britain.

It’s obvious.

 

[Surenas]

Also betrayed Saddam in 2003 allowing US forces to use it’s soil to invade while both were friends. US influence and control of those Hashemite kings is large, they can’t resist any of it.
Betrayed the Arabs in 1973 warning Israel.
Allowed an oil pipeline from Iraq to Israel in Jordan that sent oil for free to Britain.

It’s obvious.

Agreed. Without the British I doubt they would've been in power.

 

[Doritos11]

I think the whole world prefers Jordan's ruler than Al-Maliki. He is such a boring figure. King Abdullah II of Jordan on the other hand is well-respected and educated leader that has done a lot of good.

Politicians aren’t supposed to be comedians, as for educated I’ll tell you Sharistani is far superior to the Jordanian king regarding intelligence, he’s not that smart anyway. Speaking English is supposed to be special lol.

 

[rmi5]

It is not something recent. As I told you the prodigy of Hasan ibn Ali (ra) and Hussein ibn Ali (ra) married Persian women and since all the Hashemite lineages descend from several lineages descending from them many have Persian ancestry down the line. Then add to the fact that Sharif's of Makkah have married non-Arabs down the line. It's not really that outrageous nor does it matter. It's so many generations back. Even the whole lineage of the 12 Imams in Shia Islam have not only Persian blood but also African in this case Ethiopian. I don't recall which of the 12 Imams was half Ethiopian. But google will help you out.

Lastly most Sadah families have migrated across the Muslim and Arab world for centuries. Due to historical reasons and due to being the first in line in terms of missionary work. Or due to persecution from rivaling rulers that always saw the Hashemites as a thread to their rule. Despite there being a lot of Hashemite rulers from the Arab world to South Asia to South East Asia.

For instance I can trace my ancestry to Husayn ibn Ali (ra) and to his son Ali ibn Husayin (ra).

Shahrbanu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The mother of Ali ibn Husayn (ra)

@ResurgentIran

I fully agree with what you have written.

Dear @al-Hasani ,
That Shahrbanu story is a lie and just created after Safavid era to make Iranians feel closer to the 12 Shia Imams

 

[al-Hasani]

@Doritos11

So you suddenly went all retard and Arab nationalist while yesterday you were saying the complete opposite?

Hashemites ruled Hijaz for over 1000 years sometimes directly other times nominally. Many other regions of the world. The Arab uprising against the Ottomans was initiated by a wide range of Arab figures and it succeeded. Rulers come and go.

Yet Jordan hosted 1.5 million Iraqis and provided for them while at the same time hosting a similar number of Palestinian refugees and now Syrian refugees. All while having few resources and no oil and gas.

Sane persons prefer good ties with the West than Saddam lunatics and other Soviet puppets that you love so much.

Dear @al-Hasani ,

That Shahrbanu story is a lie and just created after Safavid era to make Iranians feel closer to the 12 Shia Imams

I have no clue about that. It is just one out of many examples of intermarriages. The identity is not known with certainty but she was probably Persian or at least Iranian. I gave a name of a probable Iranian/Persian lady that is an ancestor of mine not long ago (6-7 generations) and also the ancestor of the Hashemites of Jordan.

 

[rmi5]

@Surenas

How about Dilber Khanum? Sounds Turkish to me.

I think you mean Delbar Khanoum. Khanoum means lady and delbar is a persian women name means sweetheart.

 

[Surenas]

I have no clue about that. It is just one out of many examples of intermarriages. The identity is not known with certainty but she was probably Persian or at least Iranian. I gave a name of a probably Iranian/Persian lady that is an ancestor of mine not long ago (6-7 generations) and also the ancestor of the Hashemites of Jordan.

I've read intermarriages between Arabs and Persians weren't that great though. Don't forget that Arab control over Iran wasn't that long, and most even controlled parts of the country through Persian bureaucrats. But also don't forget about Persian intermixing with other people in the Middle East before Islam.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

@Surenas

How about Dilber Khanum? Sounds Turkish to me.



Quit your usual trolling and nonsense, Mr. Jabouri.

@BLACKEAGLE

Leave him, he is stateless and rootless, everyday, he identifies himself with something different. Plus, he is just mad at Jordanian rule in Syria, so let him vent his frustration here..

 

[al-Hasani]

Politicians aren’t supposed to be comedians, as for educated I’ll tell you Sharistani is far superior to the Jordanian king regarding intelligence, he’s not that smart anyway. Speaking English is supposed to be special lol.

The point is that the King of Jordan is a educated and popular man. A people's king. Much liked in Jordan. While Al-Maliki is unpopular. Of course he speaks English since he is half English. Yet Jordan also helps train the Iraqi army.

Yes, you gave one name of a chemical engineer (BTW). The requirement for an leader/head of state is not to be a professor is it? Just be educated and good ruler. So thanks for stating the obvious. Yet you seem quit angry of something that he has nothing to do with and that happened 40 years ago.

Thumbs up for that gif

Oh, because Nasser and other Soviet puppets were fully independent. Nobody was. We had this discussion 100 times but you insist each time.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

The hashemites are British puppets. this cult must be stamped out of the ME.

You guys are non Arabs and not Muslims. You are actually our enemies, so you have nothing to do with us.

 

[Doritos11]

@Doritos11

So you suddenly went all retard and Arab nationalist while yesterday you were saying the complete opposite?

Hashemites ruled Hijaz for over 1000 years sometimes directly other times nominally. Many other regions of the world. The Arab uprising against the Ottomans was initiated by a wide range of Arab figures and it succeeded. Rulers come and go.

They stayed loyal to Britain for decades, Jordan still is.

Yet Jordan hosted 1.5 million Iraqis and provided for them while at the same time hosting a similar number of Palestinian refugees and now Syrian refugees. All while having few resources and no oil and gas.

Sane persons prefer good ties with the West than Saddam lunatics and other Soviet puppets that you love so much.

Jordan assisted the US in the invasion, so how does taking refugees which they treated like garbage supposed to be something 'good', I think enough oil has been pumped to them.

Yes those republic leaders were great compared to the others, I like them.

The point is that the King of Jordan is a educated and popular man. A people's king. Much liked in Jordan. While Al-Maliki is unpopular. Of course he speaks English since he is half English. Yet Jordan also helps train the Iraqi army.

Basic training is something anyone can give, being educated isn’t special either for a leader.