Iranian Air Defense Systems

[WudangMaster]

Just a question guys:
This youtube tv channel claims that Iran is receiving S-500 from Moscow. Is it true, or fake news?

Because I see nowhere Iran is receiving S-500. On contrary, I don't think Iran is really interesting neither in the S-400 nor the S-500,. Your general Esmaelly, a few months ago, said Iran is developing its own S-500 dubbed Sayyad-6. As Iran masters hypersonic, and vector thrust missile technologies, Iranians are more interesting to develop indigenous technologies.
Am I right?

From the recent discussion regarding bavar, it is quickly evolving into S-400/500 level with the addition of a telar and possibly sayyad 5 or 6 for higher altitude/abm engagement so I doubt it will be acquiring S-500 unless it has something radically new technologically that Iran would want to get a hold of.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iranian made military radars

Good for Iran. They have mastered the various levels of radar technology. Shame that Pakistan cannot compete with Iran in this area, Iran is so far ahead of Pakistan in radar technology it is not funny anymore.. Hell, even Egypt is now head.. sigh...

 

[WudangMaster]

Those kids are getting extremely annoying to watch, I've been fast forwarding to the informative portions and the parts where the officer speaks and no more.
In part 6, the fat hairy stupid oaf is molesting every item it can gets its beast hands on and babbles non stop. They were fine in part 1 or 2 but are very annoying hemorrhoids to watch by part 4...

 

[foxhoundbis]

From the recent discussion regarding bavar, it is quickly evolving into S-400/500 level with the addition of a telar and possibly sayyad 5 or 6 for higher altitude/abm engagement so I doubt it will be acquiring S-500 unless it has something radically new technologically that Iran would want to get a hold of.

I think it is a matter of -short -time to see Iran with its hypersonic S-500. And not only, they are developing an indigenous new version of Pantsir, it will include thrust vector hypersonic missiles, like the Pantsir SM.
Do not forget that the NK's ally succeeded by building its own version of S-400, surely Iran will follow next. Once Iran will reach this achievement, it will jeopardize any western attack against Iran and the survival of Israel .

 

[WudangMaster]

When bavar was first in development, it was assumed to be more like S-300 and the sayyad 2, 3, & 4 were originally thought by many to be used by the Bavar. 15th of Khordad was kind of a surprise when it appeared and when it did, the conclusion drawn was that the final product was split into 2 systems giving Bavar more emphasis on abm and very high altitude and very long ranges.
So it looks like 15th Khordad and Bavar fill S-300/400/500 role, with Bavar focusing more on the the higher level threats and 15 Khordad on high altitude to mid altitude threats. Rather than one system utilizing 4 missiles, you have two systems with 2 missile variants each and some likely overlap in the high altitude range where sayyads 3 & 4 might overlap.
Likewise, there is some overlap with 3rd Khordad and 15th Khordad with both using sayyad 2 and a bit of overlap with the newer Kamin 2 system; lower than that is the area of point defenses like Oghab, Herz 9, Tor, Saer, kamand, etc.

 

[foxhoundbis]

So it looks like 15th Khordad and Bavar fill S-300/400/500 role, with Bavar focusing more on.... lower than that is the area of point defenses like Oghab, Herz 9, Tor, Saer, kamand, etc.

I forgot to mention the other air defense built by Iran. Anyway, it is more effective for Iran to develop its own weaponry instead of relying on Russia, which showed very low reliability, especially when Iran was in a critical position at the end of the 2000s. Do not forget that at this time G.W. Bush was on the verge to attack Iran. Iran bought S-300, and Russia did refuse to deliver this weapon.


Moreover, if Russia sells you S-400, or S-500, it imposes conditions of use it, and you don't know what this hardware contains, even more, you don't know if against Israel at the worst critical moment this hardware will be disabled, not by US, or Israel, but by Russia itself. North Korea succeeded on its own to reach self-sufficiency, I think Iran is on the same road. It is better like that.

 

[IranDefence]

Just a question guys:
This youtube tv channel claims that Iran is receiving S-500 from Moscow. Is it true, or fake news?

Because I see nowhere Iran is receiving S-500. On contrary, I don't think Iran is really interesting neither in the S-400 nor the S-500,. Your general Esmaelly, a few months ago, said Iran is developing its own S-500 dubbed Sayyad-6. As Iran masters hypersonic, and vector thrust missile technologies, Iranians are more interesting to develop indigenous technologies.
Am I right?

Fake news , Iran prefers to invest its resources on home grown Bavar 373 ... we just need some technologies of turbofan engines

 

[Philosopher]

The IRGC official's comment (watch from 14:30) on the Ghadir radar below confirms that the Iranian Ghadirs are indeed an upgraded version created by Iran.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Those kids are getting extremely annoying to watch, I've been fast forwarding to the informative portions and the parts where the officer speaks and no more.
In part 6, the fat hairy stupid oaf is molesting every item it can gets its beast hands on and babbles non stop. They were fine in part 1 or 2 but are very annoying hemorrhoids to watch by part 4...

The kids are not as annoying as the piano track that plays over the whole video.

 

[aryobarzan]

The kids are not as annoying as the piano track that plays over the whole video.

I must say not being in Iran since 1981, I get mildly shocked to see female university student in this so called "Islamic" dress..I know it is Islamic republic but it is still hard to watch them wrapped in that pinguine dress..The Islamic system has done great things... industrializing Iran and making her strong and independent but that part of the deal (islamic dress for women) just can not get through my head..sorry...lol

 

[WudangMaster]

I get what they were going for, it's too much for 7 episodes. The short little clips were

The kids are not as annoying as the piano track that plays over the whole video.

I get what they were going for but it was a bit much. The best segments were the clip videos and some tidbits from the 2 officers. The younger officer couldn't get away fast enough at one point in the video.

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1328371720810590208

 

[karamany98]

I must say not being in Iran since 1981, I get mildly shocked to see female university student in this so called "Islamic" dress..I know it is Islamic republic but it is still hard to watch them wrapped in that pinguine dress..The Islamic system has done great things... industrializing Iran and making her strong and independent but that part of the deal (islamic dress for women) just can not get through my head..sorry...lol

Iran now has a higher percentage of females in STEM subjects than men. I think its around 55%-60% which is also way higher than the western world.

 

[skyshadow]

a unified Middle East air defense network under control of Iran national Air Defense unit that would be legendary


Commander of Iran's Army Air Defense Force Alireza Sabahifard today proposed a joint integrated air defense network between Iran and Iraq, and offered Iraqi students places at the Khatam al-Anbia Air Defense Academy.

Iranian Air Defense Ready to Train Iraqi Cadets - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency

TEHRAN (Tasnim) – The Iranian Air Defense university is ready to run training courses for the Iraqi cadets, a top commander said.

www.tasnimnews.com

 

[Messerschmitt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1329478990483124227