Mr Iran Eye
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Hold on...... the 15th of Khordad and Talash are not the same system?
No, the radar and its configuration is a little different
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Hold on...... the 15th of Khordad and Talash are not the same system?
Talash came long before
15 Khordad . It is designed to fire the Sayyad-2 missile, while 15 fires Sayyad-3
15th of Khordad can be considered “Talash-2” in many ways.
no, 15th of khordad is more advance but less mobile
They use both Sayyads 2 & 3 for sure and Talash might possibly use 4 and the future 5 because it is it's own system and testing platform for missiles that end up in other systems. I have seen pics of Talash with HAWK radars along some planar array radars along with mechanical dishes so I'm not sure what a complete Talash system even looks like. I think it also operates the mobile S-200s and at one time Sayyad 2 and the mobile S-200 were together in Talash and probably still are.Hold on...... the 15th of Khordad and Talash are not the same system?
I see, It confused me because they look very similar.
Quite the contrary, 15th Khordad in one of the most compact & mobile systems out there for the engagement envelope. I believe there is just one all around planar array mounted to the command post vehicle for both search and engagement with two missile types. Very fine work by any metric.no, 15th of khordad is more advance but less mobile
They use both Sayyads 2 & 3 for sure and Talash might possibly use 4 and the future 5 because it is it's own system and testing platform for missiles that end undead up in other systems. I have seen pics of Talash with HAWK radars along some planar array radars along with mechanical dishes so I'm not sure what a complete Talash system even looks like. I think it also operates the mobile S-200s and at one time Sayyad 2 and the mobile S-200 were together in Talash and probably still are.
I'm not sure there was ever a production line for the eyetem (other than the Sayyad missiles) and it was more of an amalgram of equipment made mobile and as modern as possible such with the S-200 missiles. I think what is seen in war games is remnants of some of Iran's older systems made mobile and probably serving in wargames and training crews for the other systems until they phase out over time. I believe at one point it was a testing platform too and so much of it evolved into the other systems.I don’t think Talash gets built anymore.
It is more than 7 years old. Not a whole reason to build Talash when 15th Khordad exists as well Kamin-2 for smaller objects in the medium air defense range.
This is not a new system more like refurbished. I have seen it 10+ years at military parades!
4 manpad Set up with a human gunner. Usually there is foliage or camo around the nest and vehicle.
EDIT: Here is proof
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Yes,I found that rather humorous as well.I knew it. Tal the Zionist baboon showed footage of the old system
wrongRaad’s next gen upgrade became 3vome Khordad
in your opinion, are Iranian Tor/Pantsir equivalents ready and compareable to russian ones?wrong
Raad is support vehicle to 3rd Kharadar, not upgrade, Third-Khordad with two Raad vehicle can launch 9 missile or with 3 Raad vehicle can launch 12 missile two missile for each target ( meaniang 6 target )
Third-Khordad can connect to ** Read vehicle wirelessly and launch missiles
or operator in Raad vehicle can put in target details manually or receive data from main radar bases and operator after confirmation launch missile toward target
Yesin your opinion, are Iranian Tor/Pantsir equivalents ready and compareable to russian ones?
Most important was fully mobilising the missiles and getting them away from that massive radar they were attached to. They were also made to engage mid range targets to the astonishment of Russians when an S-200 shot down a karrar drone in a war game many years back, though I only read this, never seen footage of it. Afterwards, Sayyad 2 was introduced and first made to work with the Talash radar/fire control and then adapted to the other radar systems that would eventually go to 3rd, 15th Khordad, Bavar, etc.Talash is mainly an upgrade for Iran's S-200 sites to e.g. allow for (more economical) mid-range engangements.