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Now they are going to say the operator was sleep deprived last night and fall sleep as the result the drone went into iran territory .The drone had reportedly trespassed into the Iranian territory when it was shot down.
They said IRGC air force shut down, well in IRGC aerospace force ,air defence and aviation branch are under same division but report I read suggested it was done by aircraft... Will see latter
There isn't that much IRGC airforce ,I doubt their airforce is suitable for engaging RQ-4They said IRGC air force shut down, well in IRGC aerospace force ,air defence and aviation branch are under same division but report I read suggested it was done by aircraft... Will see latter
Well,they can use SU-22 ,it is high altitude tactical bomber but can be used for interception when you have drone...but maybe article was wrong or not precise translation,it has more sense to use air defense but I saw 2 articles clearly said IRGC air force ,not aerospace force,we all know IRGC has aviation branch under aerospace force together with air defense but many media outlets tag always IRGC AF as air force instead aeroapaceThere isn't that much IRGC airforce ,I doubt their airforce is suitable for engaging RQ-4
No offend. How about B1B with KC-10 Extender? Just curious are you going to attack Washington DC with Surface to Surface missiles? In your opinion what's Iran's plan to retaliate?
Ok after the release of the video several things are clear:
Missile used was newer Taer-2C of the 3rd Khordad
Engagement was long range, ~90km according to US version, ~85km in the Iranian version (reminder: newest BUK-M3 and HQ-16 reaches officially just 75km)
Shot down was unfortunately over water
No clear evidence of the wreck hence possible that it flew within Irans airspace.
That's not good because the "plausible deniability" concept of RoE is a problem here: Soviet Mig-31 didn't kill U.S SR-71 because by the time it would be hit by the missile, it would be already outside Russian airspace and crash on NATO soil.
The RQ-4 did its routine hence, no added provocation from its side. It may have violated Iranian airspace but Iran can't easily prove it because such violations are always very minimal for such slow assets.
So it certainly looks like it's a offensive act yet again by Iran.
Justification is surely there but this time the operations looks less subtile and elegant...
With Trump coping Reagans mad-man doctrine, he has already done his first action according to this concept: Offer a soft response by Iran in asking whether this was just a mistake by some general.
Iran will stay cold on this and then Trump has to act in some way, otherwise the house of cards of his mad-man doctrine will collapse in front of the whole world...
I'm somewhat critical on this move.
If it was shot down anywhere in the area below then it WAS in Iran's airspace unless it was on the Oman's side of the waters:Ok after the release of the video several things are clear:
Missile used was newer Taer-2C of the 3rd Khordad
Engagement was long range, ~90km according to US version, ~85km in the Iranian version (reminder: newest BUK-M3 and HQ-16 reaches officially just 75km)
Shot down was unfortunately over water
No clear evidence of the wreck hence possible that it flew within Irans airspace.
That's not good because the "plausible deniability" concept of RoE is a problem here: Soviet Mig-31 didn't kill U.S SR-71 because by the time it would be hit by the missile, it would be already outside Russian airspace and crash on NATO soil.
The RQ-4 did its routine hence, no added provocation from its side. It may have violated Iranian airspace but Iran can't easily prove it because such violations are always very minimal for such slow assets.
So it certainly looks like it's a offensive act yet again by Iran.
Justification is surely there but this time the operations looks less subtile and elegant...
With Trump coping Reagans mad-man doctrine, he has already done his first action according to this concept: Offer a soft response by Iran in asking whether this was just a mistake by some general.
Iran will stay cold on this and then Trump has to act in some way, otherwise the house of cards of his mad-man doctrine will collapse in front of the whole world...
I'm somewhat critical on this move.
@Oldman1
That's what it looks like: Relaxed RoE approach for some period to make drone pilots lax in this regard: Then a day before Irans Shamkhani threatens a change in RoE and hours later the unexpected shot down. If it was at Zarifs claimed coordinates the U.S pilots probably justified to their generals that "Iran never cared for 5km more or less violation in the past".
I think the US will crash it instead of force landing in Iran....Why didn't they force the drone deep into Iranian airspace and land it?