Iran to supply Russia with “hundreds” of Drones

[QWECXZ]

This is only worth it (assuming that the news is legit and not fake) if there's a technology transfer from Russia to Iran for the things we need. Otherwise, it's very stupid.

 

[Goritoes]

Hopefully some fighter jets, IRAF needs massive upgrades.

 

[drmeson]

I am rather more focussed on what do we have to offer

 

[mohsen]

خدا نکشتت سالیوان! What a multi nation discussion

 

[drmeson]

Hopefully some fighter jets, IRAF needs massive upgrades.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/hesa-fighter-kowsar-program-current-and-next-generation.743327/

- We need assistance in bringing this platform locally produced platform to 4.5 Generation in next version. An AESA radar with a track range of 180-200 km search range with R-74 + R-77SM. Current generations ~70 airframes will be completed in ~2026. Beyond which some 120+ more of the next version will be required to replace the retiring fleet.

- IRIAF placed an order of 72-80 MIG-29S (9.13) + MIG-31 in 1990s. Russia can supply same numbers of MIG-29SMT/35 which will fit in our local MIG-29 infrastructure. Even if we just receive MLUed old airframes, our local companies HESA, IEI can upgrade the airframe to MIG-29M standards avionics-wise. A MIG-29M/35 force of 100 fighters supported by 45~ F-14AM and 200 x Kowsars I/II will be a good interception fleet considering that IRIAF does not need to fight outside its borders. We have the missile strike capability to deal with the enemy at IRBM ranges with BM/CM/UCAV.

 

[Ich]

Iranian drones would perfectly fit into Russia`s special operation. Due to Ukraine lacks on air defence, drones can take out ukrain arty at places russian arty cant reach. Also destroying military targets deep inside Ukraine will be much more cheaper then using missiles. Although the russian "steam roller" is already effectiv, bringing in a lot of drones will turn it into a giant Häckselmaschine with 100+ kilometers in dept.

 

[Muhammed45]

US is the world largest oil producer. If US wants to increase oil production, it can easily do it by simply losing restrictions on US oil companies. Right now most if not all federal land and coastal areas are off limits to oil companies.

You are an idiot, please stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Dalit]

we need two thing.
jet engine technology and technology to produce micro processors . one is Russia is not willing to give us and another they are not capable

We need to get rid of Bajwa.

Well done to Iran.

 

[serenity]

China cannot sell weapons to Russia without western backlash and China is integrated with global supply chains and economies in a way we want to control and determine where we want to increase and where we want to step back from and actually do damage to west (believe whatever but this is certainly the case of supply chain bullwhip intentionally wielded by China in certain domains). It is also unnecessary to be honest for anyone to sell to Russia. It is a matter of details but not a matter of outcome but this is a war and it is not a place for us to judge on this as outside parties except to at least hold the belief that all war is fundamentally bad and evil at its roots and causes evil no matter how it is. As for the objective stuff of just the actual equipment, not worth selling to Russia for most nations even China as an aligned nation and sharing common antagonist of USA aka USA + UK led group. Opsec risks, backlash, PR and propaganda target, and no reward except tiny amounts of money.

Iran is already sanctioned. Not as much to lose and backlash? well what can the west do they haven't already?

So to simplify, the question becomes should Iran sell and supply. This is a more complicated one to determine a net assessment. This surely depends on Iran itself since it knows details about its drones, which ones to export which ones not to mainly for the opsec concerns. What specific detailed risks are involved. The rest we're just having fun guessing here as unknowledgable and unimportant people.

 

[raptor22]

American: we would sanction Iran's drone program.
Iran: then we would sell or drones to Russian and get tech & $$ in return.
win-win game.

 

[mulj]

any confirmation of this rumor as it would be significant development?

 

[Raghfarm007]

I think what the Ruskies really need is along range, muliti attack precision kamakazi drones from Iran. This comes to mind:

 

[Hack-Hook]

If this report from Sullivan is accurate (to whatever degree) then one must assume that high-level talks have been going on between Russia and Iranian officials surrounding the urgent transfer of Iranian made drones for "something" in return. Whether this be TOT or a lucrative weapons deal, who knows but Iran must have gotten something out of it. Several hundred drone systems is nothing to scoff at. This is by all means, a major arms transfer.

or perhaps Russia investment in north south corridor , Iran become a hub for exporting Russians goods , the money that bring it Iran is more lucrative than buying some weapon , that made it possible it for us to put more money on the Research and development and diversify our economy more.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Hence from Iran's point of view it is basically damned if I do and damned if i don't.. Because they have already done enough to warrant to be party of this war example like supplying cannon fodder militias to the Russians to help push the ukrianians and other military assistance this has been noted by US intelligence and also Ukrainian intelligence..

that something some people claimed for 3 months and yet to produce a single of those cannon fodders . just some baseless lies

I think what the Ruskies really need is along range, muliti attack precision kamakazi drones from Iran. This comes to mind:

thats good to have but i rather have some of Ababil-5 or mohajer-6

 

[vizier]

Too much involvement can be used by Usa to ignite some conflict against supporting countries and other mideastern countries with Eu backing as well. Also putin can drag China as well into supporting the conflict why Iran? But this doesnt mean leaving Russia alone. Drone tech transfer(improving their orion drone) and limited drone sales that wont change the balance wont be too much for short term with Russian tech know-how return. However almost direct involvement with 100s of drones smells like a trap dragging directly into the conflict someway.
In case Ukraine gains upper hand and starts direct attacks inside Russia switching the roles or internal issues arise inside Russia with limited Ru army support both China and Iran can currently produce extra atgms, uavs, artillery, rockets, spare troops-training in possible case of providing them to Russia to stabilise a future situation. That is something else.
Currently both Ukraine and Russia dont talk about restarting negotations and busy killing each other. There are even rumors of Russia declaring general mobilisation soon(without a provoked attack to Kerch,Crimea) which would result in an irreversible situation and very possible food crisis. Offering a timetable and condition for sales is another option like if Ukraine does not declare willingness to negotiations within certain timeframe normal amount of drone sales to Russia will begin otherwise limited amount of transfer type of argument can be used by China and Iran to promote the peace process. That would push Ukraine to table. If Ukraine accepts the negotiation table putin would possibly accept as well and negotiations will start again without leaving Russia alone in the process as well. Limited number of drones will be sold but both sides would deescalate and removal of costs of the war with a possible ceasefire would be more profitable for Russia than any number of drones. After the conflict is over both sides would rearm against each other for deterrence and sales will go up anyways.