Iran to supply Russia with “hundreds” of Drones

[Genghis khan1]

thats a lie- equipment and commoditty shortages (steel for eg) and labor shortages prevent Us companies from ramping up oil, why lie?

Where did you get that? Market was oversaturated with petroleum engineering few months ago. US oil companies have enough capital to pull skilled labour from any part of the world including Iran.

 

[SalarHaqq]

The handle EsaX appears to be an attempt at a more down to earth sounding comeback by user MMM-E.

Couple of hints:

* A name that sounds like an abbreviating letter combination, itself followed by a highlighted single letter (EsaX, MMM-E).
* Use of specific Turkish characters, for instance the dotted capital I (as in İran).
* The phrase "Iran has nothing". In keeping with the new approach, slightly less aggressive than MMM-E's "Iran is nothing".
* Insistence on the claim that only two or three countries other than Turkey produce certain types of advanced equipment, in particular optical sensor components (with formulations like "only three countries in the world", or "only Turkey, the US and Isra"el"").

And so on.

So let us welcome back MMM-E. Sei gegrüsst, Lan.

 

[RΛIDEN]

You are wasting time on MMM's sock account, trolling in Iranian section with parrot like copy-pasting of Akinci Pakinci spacecraft, with erdogan missile with 50000 KM range, single crystal donar kebab, Mehmet Istanbulu Hurjet etc etc etc. Ctrl +C ... Ctrl V lol

I have reported the trolling, flaming, and derailing of thread by these 2 Turkish trolls in the Iranians section. Hopefully, @waz @Irfan Baloch clean the thread so we can discuss what is happening here, are we getting something in return for Mohajer-6 or whatever they chose from the arsenal or this is once again just another military favor in return for political gain.

Sorry bro, kinda off-topic but I couldn't help mentioning your Akinci Pakinci spacecraft & single-crystal doner kebab - cracked me up so bad, lol.

This is GOLD!

 

[Muhammed45]

theyre not that desperate to lose their influence in the whole region
And iran selling drones to Russia is some sort of a joke to me

Because you have imagined that Iran is like an Arab country.

Iran to supply Russia with car parts, fuel turbines amid gas crisis in Ukraine

Tehran said it will begin negotiations with Moscow on supplying Russia with car parts and fuel turbines in exchange for raw metal materials as Russia struggles under stiff sanctions.

nypost.com

 

[Bengal71]

This means Iran has officially entered the war... The western media and politicians will treat this as war waged against their civilization by Iran.. This is pretty much official. They are very sensitive and emotional in regards to this Ukraine war.

Which leads me to believe why the US has increased the anti-Iran noises lately. Nonetheless I would welcome seeing the outfall of Iranian suicide drones hitting Ukrainian forces or western supplied weapons.. The Americans or CIA already count Iran as party to this war..

Hence from Iran's point of view it is basically damned if I do and damned if i don't.. Because they have already done enough to warrant to be party of this war example like supplying cannon fodder militias to the Russians to help push the ukrianians and other military assistance this has been noted by US intelligence and also Ukrainian intelligence..

Iran is just now saying you know what fuk this shxt... An making themselves official party of the war..

This will create great anger across the western capitals and they will foam.. I could honestly see the US provoked into an Iranian war.. Not because they want to but because they were first attacked and forced to it

When did Iran supply cannon fodder militia to the Russia-Ukraine war?

 

[khansaheeb]

Quite the opposite.
Iran will have a viable friend to check the west and Israel

Russia is quite p!ssed off with the Israelis, so you will see considerable support of anti-Israeli elements by Russia.

 

[Abid123]

Thread should be renamed "Turkish vs Iranian drones".

 

[jamahir]

Iran is the inventor of UCAV in 1980s. The only major military invention of Muslims.

Please post more on this, pictures and all. I am not a person who likes wars but what you said interests me.

Also, I won't call it an invention but the late 1700s Indian ruler Tipu Sultan who was an internationalist and either furthered the development of war rockets or enabled his engineers to do that. The British took that development home.

 

[waz]

I’ll delete anything not related to Iranian drones now. There are plenty of threads to discuss other things.

 

[Zarvan]

If news is true it should be enough to give a call to let say keep quite to all those pro Russian members here and in the world in general who questioned how much affective these drones are. I think it's enough to tell you how affective they are.

 

[DoubleYouSee]

You are wasting time on MMM's sock account, trolling in Iranian section with parrot like copy-pasting of Akinci Pakinci spacecraft, with erdogan missile with 50000 KM range, single crystal donar kebab, Mehmet Istanbulu Hurjet etc etc etc. Ctrl +C ... Ctrl V lol

I have reported the trolling, flaming, and derailing of thread by these 2 Turkish trolls in the Iranians section. Hopefully, @waz @Irfan Baloch clean the thread so we can discuss what is happening here, are we getting something in return for Mohajer-6 or whatever they chose from the arsenal or this is once again just another military favor in return for political gain.

دهنت سرویس.....هی این پستو می خونم.....هی می خندم......خدا نکشتت......دمت گرم

 

[sha ah]

Yeah Iranian drones are garbage. That's how they bypassed 6 Patriot SAM batteries and destroyed half of Saudi Arabia's oil reserves.

Why are so many people getting upset that Iran is going to supply Russia with UAVs ? Russia has some decent models, but they never mass produced anything other than Orlon-10. Iran has thousands of drones, everything from stealth, multirole, ground targeting, interceptors, kamikazi, reconnaissance, etc

Because Iran has been sanctioned for years, Iran's weapons industry is basically sanction proof. The entire process, from the sourcing of raw materials, to the assembly lines and manufacturing process, have all been adapted to function despite western sanctions. Basically Sanctions might be able to throw a wrench into Russia's efforts to mass produce UAVs, but this is not the case for Iran.

We already know that the west is sanctioning Iran as much as possible so they cannot use that as leverage. They don't have the balls to attack Iran either, so there's nothing they can do. Iran is in a position where it can only gain from supplying Russia with UAVs.

Iran is not a vassal or subservient to the US or the EU. Iran is an independent, sovereign nation. If the west and its vassals states, like turkey, can supply Ukraine with weapons, then Iran can supply its ally Russia with weapons as well. Any threats towards Iran are laughable and will easily be brushed off.

Western nations can whine, cry and scream as Iranian drones destroy their weapons and kill their mercenaries, but that's about all they can do. They chose to sanction Iran and they chose to maintain sanctions on Iran. Now they can deal with the consequences of their actions.

I think this is fake news Russia would never consider iranian garbage drones but if am wrong then its a huge victory for iranian defence industry if a country like russia which is one of largest weapons exporter in the world uses their drones thats nothing else but a great achievement.

another question comes to mind why dont russians order chinese drones. chinese have all sorts of drones this news seems fake.

 

[sha ah]

A Ukrainian pilot recently stated that Turkish drones are useless as they are very vulnerable to Russian air defenses.

Ukrainian Fighter Pilots Call B.S. On Need For Gray Eagle Drones

Ukraine could be in line to receive MQ-1C Gray Eagle armed drones, but the country's own pilots say they would be vulnerable and ineffective.

www.thedrive.com

Zelensky even said that the Turkish drones do not play a decisive role against Russia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1517959804370759680

and yes the TB2s are assembled in Turkey, but all the vital components are foreign, everyone knows that. Turkey claims otherwise but the remains from crashed/wrecked TB2s proves it.

You do it even now as you speak. Our drones are not assembled they’re battleproven Nato standart state of the art unlike your north korean ali express drones.

 

[drmeson]

I’ll delete anything not related to Iranian drones now. There are plenty of threads to discuss other things.

Thanks Mod.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The biggest Advantage of using a FJ-44 equivalent Jahesh is the fact that its just 52 inches compared to OWJ which is atleast 110-115 inches long. So you get like 60 more inches free for more avionics. What if they try to turn Kowsar-II/III into a supersonic unmanned fighter in the future with internal bays ? or let's keep it simple, what if they want a fully dedicated E-warfare + ELINT platform using Kowsar-I which is being produced right now, you can put all those extra jammers, IRST, ECCM in that space. Or maybe 600-800 ltr of additional fuel for CAP with F-14 AM and MIG-29. Also, MTBO reduces like hell as well.

missed one point here. OWJ with afterburner is 110-115 inch , without it it will be something like GE-CJ610 only 50inch so if you add afterburner to that FJ-44 equivalent you have an engine as long as owj

the general rule of thumb is that modern turbofans usually have afterburner thrust some 1.6-1.7 times higher than dry thrust. If Jahesh-700's/FJ-33's larger version produces as much thrust as FJ-44 dry i.e. 3600 lbs then its afterburner thrust will be 1.7 x 3600 = 6120 lb or ~12250 lbs for 2 engines. Now with full internal fuel, that's a T/W ratio of 0.93, which is still very good. For a 4.3 ton fighter that's actually a very T/W ratio.

again afterburner is for short period of time , you don't calculate it in normal operation of airplane for example how much it can carry , how in maneuver it perform and such. two FJ-44 will give you 32000kn for normal operation as two owj. even if you add afterburner to them , they again won't be more powerful than owj as owj also have afterburner. so the problem of thrust will still be there only the problem of endurance will be solved

Last but not least OWJ Turbojet and Jahesh-700 Turbofans are in our hands, F404 is not.

we don't have FJ-44 if we want it we must develop over Jahesh-700
and since when you wan us to copy , its not better to use the basic we learned from Jahesh and produce our heavy engine ? by the way we have RD-33 we can look inside it and learn from it (there is no need to copy it, just learn from its approach and add it to what we learned from Jahesh-700 and Tolue-14 and made another engine . what ever it is if you want to use it for Kowsar-2 it must at least be in class of RD-33 or F-404