Iran to sell heavy water to US

[Falcon29]

I read your post. And your other posts as well You make it sound like Iran is the only country trying to shape the ground realities to their favor. Everyone does it. Well not everyone. The regional players (Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Israel etc) does it.

A country like Palestine (if we can even call it a country nowaadays) is not a player. It is a small pawn that is being used. Get this straight, first and foremost we have the interests of the Iranian nation state at heart. Is that weird? No.
We really dont care about Palestine. If it can be used as a pawn, than off course there will be all sorts of rhetoric. But at the end of the day, you are a pawn that we dont really care about.

No we are not a pawn, we don't have ties with you. And have no country anyway, nothing to offer buddy.

The difference is those other countries don't try achieving such things by 'exporting revolution', trying to convince Iraqi's , Syrians, Afghani's and Yemeni's that their work is done to hasten appearance of the 'Mahdi' and give victory to the 'true Islam'.

 

[ResurgentIran]

No we are not a pawn, we don't have ties with you. And have no country anyway, nothing to offer buddy.

The difference is those other countries don't try achieving such things by 'exporting revolution', trying to convince Iraqi's , Syrians, Afghani's and Yemeni's that their work is done to hasten appearance of the 'Mahdi' and give victory to the 'true Islam'.

When did I say you were our pawn? Hamas' allegiances changes as frequently as a I change underwear. But that doesnt change the fact that you are a pawn.

About the 2nd part of your post, you are so naive. Everyone uses nationalism, religion or even religious dogma to exert soft power influence. And again, Iran is not the only one to do it. Nor is it even trying to spread Shia Islam you are talking about. It does use existing Shia populations in countries to wield influence. Its nothing new.

No off course, the true Islam is those people cutting off heads and ripping out hears and eat it. Right?

News-flash. There is no true Islam. Everything is in the eyes of the beholder. You are confused and naive.

 

[Falcon29]

When did I say you were our pawn? Hamas' allegiances changes as frequently as a I change underwear. But that doesnt change the fact that you are a pawn.

You must have a very dirty underwear then.

About the 2nd part of your post, you are so naive. Everyone uses nationalism, religion or even religious dogma to exert soft power influence. And again, Iran is not the only one to do it. Nor is it even trying to spread Shia Islam you are talking about. It does use existing Shia populations in countries to wield influence. Its nothing new.
You are confused and naive.

Umm no....besides Saudi Arabia and Iran, no one else uses religious dogma to extent they do. No other country is organizing militias like these two countries and motivating them by claiming it is obligatory jihad or an end times war.

No off course, the true Islam is those people cutting off heads and ripping out hears and eat it. Right?

Both are stupid, two wrongs don't make a right. The difference is one isn't trolling and is very open in their intentions. Iran twelver Shiasm on other hand uses many closet techniques to whitewash its intentions. It puts such clerics in Iraq on their payroll to keep the population very dumb so Iraqi resources/wealth can be exploited and go to Iran/high ranking Iraqi officials/families. If you take pride in this, then you are the confused and naive one my friend.

 

[ResurgentIran]

You must have a very dirty underwear then.



Umm no....besides Saudi Arabia and Iran, no one else uses religious dogma to extent they do. No other country is organizing militias like these two countries and motivating them by claiming it is obligatory jihad or an end times war.



Both are stupid, two wrongs don't make a right. The difference is one isn't trolling and is very open in their intentions. Iran twelver Shiasm on other hand uses many closet techniques to whitewash its intentions. It puts such clerics in Iraq on their payroll to keep the population very dumb so Iraqi resources/wealth can be exploited and go to Iran/high ranking Iraqi officials/families. If you take pride in this, then you are the confused and naive one my friend.

Whats to be proud about? The Arab masses are gullible and reactionary. I dont have to be proud, because they are easily manipulated. lol

 

[Falcon29]

Whats to be proud about? The Arab masses are gullible and reactionary. I dont have to be proud, because they are easily manipulated. lol

@SALMAN AL-FARSI @Alshawi1234

You hear that guys. You are gullible and being manipulated to the benefit of Iran. Stop being pawns for them already.

 

[ResurgentIran]

@SALMAN AL-FARSI @Alshawi1234

You hear that guys. You are gullible and being manipulated to the benefit of Iran. Stop being pawns for them already.

I was referring to Palestine.

 

[Falcon29]

I was referring to Palestine.

Nah buddy, none of these guys are Palestinian

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Joke's on you

 

[raptor22]

Blame Iran for what? I don't care about heavy water or what you do with your country. I care about your propaganda in the Middle East. Which non-Middle easterners aren't aware of. Arabs are very well aware of it. For the past 30 years you've been calling Arab states 'puppets' of US and therefore justifying your actions in Iraq, Yemen and elsewhere. You guys also use this agenda to declare Sunni's as heretics, wahabis, wrong sect, etc....And now US-Iran ties are thawing, cooperation will begin soon. Possibly you become US client state and manage security in Syria, Iraq.

But, that won't stop you from using propaganda against Arabs, continuing your war against them and continuing to try spreading Shiasm by claiming it is 'resistance/revolutionary' ideology. This nonsense isn't wanted or tolerated by the people. No one wants more religion, nobody wants you to brainwash Shia Arabs to use them as pawns to advance your interests. Look at this stupid stuff your clerics tell to Arab Shia's and keep them backwards:

This stupid corrupt cleric makes a lot of money to keep his population stupid so they can look up to Iran as the protector of Shia's so Iran can reap benefits in the region.

As I stated earlier in my aforesaid post "In diplomacy and politics nothing either policies or enmities are permanent" .... for instance even during Iran-Iraq war while our cities were under attacks ,by the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussain a maniac who supported by the same Arabs you accuse Iran of oppressing them, Iraqi embassy was open in Tehran .... did it mean we had friendly relations with Iraq?
As matter of fact 12 years non-stop diplomatic marathon between western countries and Iran have come to an end .. Iran resisted strenuously and stood against all these:
1) Toughest sanctions ever imposed on a nation ( from SWIFT banking system , central bank, freezing Iranian assets and etc..).
2) Sabotaging our nuclear facilities and sites .
3) Cyber attacks ( Stuxnet, Flame and ... ).
4) Assassinating our nuclear scientists .
5) Military threat .

And despite all these Iran has managed to acquire nuclear technology .... all of it from mine to fuel rod ...
The deal to sell heavy water is a part of JOCPA which Iran and west have agreed upon to solve Iranian nuclear issue ...I don't know why on earth you see it as "US-Iran ties thawing" .....
Your problem is you think having diplomatic ties make countries friends one to another ... while it's naive to think ... we do have absolute right to follow our interests anywhere in anytime and we'll take all necessary measures to get it done through diplomacy or war ....

And I have no idea what does it have with Sunni Shia conflicts in the region or Arabs ...

 

[Falcon29]

As I stated earlier in my aforesaid post "In diplomacy and politics nothing either policies or enmities are permanent" .... for instance even during Iran-Iraq war while our cities were under attacks ,by the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussain a maniac who supported by the same Arabs you accuse Iran of oppressing them, Iraqi embassy was open in Tehran .... did it mean we had friendly relations with Iraq?

Saudi, Kuwait and rest of Gulf nations did not have friendly relations with Iraq.

1) Toughest sanctions ever imposed on a nation ( from SWIFT banking system , central bank, freezing Iranian assets and etc..).

Sanctions on Iraq/siege on Gaza were/are much worse than anything being experienced in Iran. That's not what I'm arguing over though.

Like you said and others, things change in this world. The era of hostility is coming close to an end. Iran is going to export oil/trade with Europe/US. Some in the West may see Iran as strategic asset for security of Middle East. And that is good thing for your country and your people. All we ask for is to stop the anti-US rhetoric which you use as a reason to interfere in Arab nations affairs. Not because you are seeking confrontation with US. It's all because you're seeking to topple Yemeni government, Bahraini government, Saudi monarchy, Saddam dictatorship, etc....all your leaders and proxies state that they are in struggle with these governments for being 'US puppets' who 'oppress Muslims'. In reality, obviously it's just about your personal interests. This is seen as religious strife because you make it so. Once you stop it won't be that way.

 

[Daneshmand]

Iran is one of the few countries in the world that produces heavy water. There is nothing wrong in exporting it. Just because Saudis or Jordanians can not produce and export heavy water, does not mean Iran should not either. Heavy water market in the world is very tightly regulated and there are only a handful of buyers and sellers.

 

[raptor22]

Saudi, Kuwait and rest of Gulf nations did not have friendly relations with Iraq.



Sanctions on Iraq/siege on Gaza were/are much worse than anything being experienced in Iran. That's not what I'm arguing over though.

Like you said and others, things change in this world. The era of hostility is coming close to an end. Iran is going to export oil/trade with Europe/US. Some in the West may see Iran as strategic asset for security of Middle East. And that is good thing for your country and your people. All we ask for is to stop the anti-US rhetoric which you use as a reason to interfere in Arab nations affairs. Not because you are seeking confrontation with US. It's all because you're seeking to topple Yemeni government, Bahraini government, Saudi monarchy, Saddam dictatorship, etc....all your leaders and proxies state that they are in struggle with these governments for being 'US puppets' who 'oppress Muslims'. In reality, obviously it's just about your personal interests. This is seen as religious strife because you make it so. Once you stop it won't be that way.

The hostility btw Iran and the US has not ended .. as they've promised sanction will be augmented under the pretext of human right, terrorism and missile program .... even I see no guarantee of seizing nuclear related sanctions as we've seen congress attempts to sabotage the deal ...
Moreover Iran is not gonna be anyone agent or asset in the region for the security of the ME ..LOL .... we do what we think is right to do ... as we've been doing it in Syria and Iraq ... as it obvious Iran enjoys an independent foreign policy that would remain intact for good.

Arab state suffer from many problems ... I am afraid you might see Arab spring Iran's fault too ... in Iraq minority governed majority for decades ended in democratic election and Iraqis voted ... the same in Bahrain 20% Sunni is ruling 80% Shia and all Shia has done was peaceful protests ... In Yemen if you wanna know who is interfering I could help thou it's Saudi's army killing people on the daily basis razing Yemenis infrastructures to the grounds not Iranian ....

Go fix your flaws and don't blame Iran for your misery ...

 

[Daneshmand]

The hostility btw Iran and the US has not ended .. as they've promised sanction will be augmented under the pretext of human right, terrorism and missile program .... even I see no guarantee of seizing nuclear related sanctions as we've seen congress attempts to sabotage the deal ...
Moreover Iran is not gonna be anyone agent or asset in the region for the security of the ME ..LOL .... we do what we think is right to do ... as we've been doing it in Syria and Iraq ... as it obvious Iran enjoys an independent foreign policy that would remain intact for good.

Arab state suffer from many problems ... I am afraid you might see Arab spring Iran's fault too ... in Iraq minority governed majority for decades ended in democratic election and Iraqis voted ... the same in Bahrain 20% Sunni is ruling 80% Shia and all Shia has done was peaceful protests ... In Yemen if you wanna know who is interfering I could help thou it's Saudi's army killing people on the daily basis razing Yemenis infrastructures to the grounds not Iranian ....

Go fix your flaws and don't blame Iran for your misery ...

This is what the vassal king of Israeli province of Jordan was saying yesterday. Blaming Iran. As if this half breed's father was not helping Saddam to kill Iranians. This half man-half puppet has the audacity to give an interview to his masters and say, "we have to contend with Iran's presence in region". "Contend"? Is he serious? The strings moving his jaw up and down are almost visible on TV:

Saudi, Kuwait and rest of Gulf nations did not have friendly relations with Iraq.



Sanctions on Iraq/siege on Gaza were/are much worse than anything being experienced in Iran. That's not what I'm arguing over though.

Like you said and others, things change in this world. The era of hostility is coming close to an end. Iran is going to export oil/trade with Europe/US. Some in the West may see Iran as strategic asset for security of Middle East. And that is good thing for your country and your people. All we ask for is to stop the anti-US rhetoric which you use as a reason to interfere in Arab nations affairs. Not because you are seeking confrontation with US. It's all because you're seeking to topple Yemeni government, Bahraini government, Saudi monarchy, Saddam dictatorship, etc....all your leaders and proxies state that they are in struggle with these governments for being 'US puppets' who 'oppress Muslims'. In reality, obviously it's just about your personal interests. This is seen as religious strife because you make it so. Once you stop it won't be that way.

Actually Saudis tried and are still trying their best to sabotage the Iraqi government and turn Iraq into a failed state.

The rest of what you are saying is

 

[raptor22]

This is what the vassal king of Israeli province of Jordan was saying yesterday. Blaming Iran. As if this half breed's father was not helping Saddam to kill Iranians. This half man-half puppet has the audacity to give an interview to his masters and say, "we have to contend with Iran's presence in region". "Contend"? Is he serious? The strings moving his jaw up and down are almost visible on TV:

Actually Saudis tried and are still trying their best to sabotage the Iraqi government and turn Iraq into a failed state.

The rest of what you are saying is

Does Jordan trust Iran? seriously it's becoming a source of concern to me .... what are we gonna do if the king doesn't trust us? OMG ....

Dear @Daneshmand Leave them alone ... let them live in oblivion ....

 

[Arminkh]

This is what the vassal king of Israeli province of Jordan was saying yesterday. Blaming Iran. As if this half breed's father was not helping Saddam to kill Iranians. This half man-half puppet has the audacity to give an interview to his masters and say, "we have to contend with Iran's presence in region". "Contend"? Is he serious? The strings moving his jaw up and down are almost visible on TV:

Actually Saudis tried and are still trying their best to sabotage the Iraqi government and turn Iraq into a failed state.

The rest of what you are saying is

HAHA "Contend"!!! Sometimes I wonder if our Pre-Islam kings were anything like those of Greeks and Romans, we wouldn't have these problems today.

 

[Daneshmand]

Does Jordan trust Iran? seriously it's becoming a source of concern to me .... what are we gonna do if the king doesn't trust us? OMG ....

Dear @Daneshmand Leave them alone ... let them live in oblivion ....

That also coming from the king of a vassal. I mean as if we are going to need the trust of his vassalage or else our world will go dark. Pathetic. And he is there, complaining to his puppet master. Or the puppet master is making his puppet complain to himself. It is so weird in the world of puppets that one can't understand which is what.

I hear you bro. Just leave them to live their puppet lives. These puppets have no spine of their own to stand up, it is only the finger of the puppeteer inside them, that gives the appearance of a spine to these puppets. A fake spine of a finger that runs all the way through their backs. Just pity them and pass on, should be our policy. Even Pinocchio had better luck and fate than these puppets, since at least he finally became a man instead of remaining a half midget-half puppet forever, like the rulers of these vassal states.