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Iran to Rank 1st in Science, Technology by 2025

Actually there are plenty of Saudis who come to Pakistan to study:

Saudi Ambassador to Pakistan Receives Saudi Students of the Naval College in Lahore
Saudi Gazette - Saudi students in Pakistan apply for transfer: Official


They do go there but they waned a bit due to the security situation.

Yes, I guess it is now only military students who come from Saudi to Pakistan's military academias. Anyways you have money so you can go to even better places than Pakistan.
 
If you guys were so great in science, how come you don't have a working air force?

Name me any Iranian innovations that have changed the world?

I don't know any recent great Iranian scientists.

well, to be honest there are many Iranian or of Iranian origin great scientists in the world that are among the bests in their fields. I will just name few ones:

Firooz Naderi: Firouz Naderi (Persian: فیروز نادری; born 25 March 1946, in Shiraz, Iran) is an Iranian-American scientist and currently the Director for Solar System Exploration at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL). In this role Naderi oversees JPL's robotic solar system missions in planning or development and operating missions, including such currently operating projects as the Cassini orbiter at Saturn, the Dawn spacecraft at the giant asteroid Vesta, JUNO on its way to Jupiter, and GRAIL at Earth's moon. Prior to this new position, he was the Associate Director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), responsible for Project Formulation and Strategy, serving as the Laboratory's senior official providing oversight of JPL new business acquisition and was the key strategic planning officer of JPL

Pardis Sabeti: Pardis C. Sabeti (born December 25, 1975) is an Iranian American computational biologist, medical geneticist and evolutionary geneticist, who developed a bioinformatic statistical method which identifies sections of the genome that have been subject to natural selection and an algorithm which explains the effects of genetics on the evolution of disease.[1][2][3] Sabeti is an Assistant Professor in the Center for Systems Biology and Department of Organismic and Evolutionary Biology and on the faculty of the Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics at the Harvard School of Public Health at Harvard University and is a Senior Associate Member of the Broad Institute.[4]

Nima Arkani-Hamed: Nima Arkani-Hamed (born 1972) is a leading Canadian American[1] theoretical physicist with interests in high-energy physics, string theory and cosmology.

Formerly a professor at Harvard, Arkani-Hamed is now on the faculty at the prestigious Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.[2]

Cumrun Vafa:Cumrun Vafa (Persian: کامران وفا, pronounced [kɔːmˈrɔːn væˈfɔː]; born 1960 in Tehran, Iran) is an Iranian-American leading string theorist from Harvard University where he started as a Harvard Junior Fellow. He is a recipient of the 2008 Dirac Medal.

Maryam Mirzakhani: Maryam Mirzakhani (Persian: مریم میرزاخانی) (Born May[3] 1977 Tehran) is an Iranian mathematician, Professor of Mathematics (since September 1, 2008) at Stanford University.[4] Her research interests include Teichmüller theory, hyperbolic geometry, ergodic theory, and symplectic geometry.[3] She is an alumnus of National Organization for Development of Exceptional Talents (NODET) Tehran, Iran (Farzanegan highschool).

She found international recognition as a brilliant teenager after receiving gold medals in both the International Mathematical Olympiad (Hong Kong 1994) in which she scored 41 out of 42 points, ranking her 23rd jointly with five other participants, and in the International Mathematical Olympiad (Canada 1995) with a perfect score of 42 out of 42 points, ranking her 1st jointly with 14 other participants.[5]

Mirzakhani obtained her BSc in Mathematics (1999) from the Sharif University of Technology. She holds a PhD from Harvard University (2004), where she worked under the supervision of the Fields Medallist Curtis McMullen. She was a Clay Mathematics Institute Research Fellow and a professor at Princeton University.


Majid Samiee
: Madjid Samii (Persian: مجید سمیعی, born 19 June 1937) is a distinguished German-Iranian neurosurgeon and medical scientist.

Professor Samii was born in Rasht, Iran and got his professor degree in neurosurgery at the age of 33. He has been the president of the International Society for Neurosurgery and was elected as the founding president for the Congress of International Neurosurgeons (MASCIN) in 2003.[1] Majid Samii received the "World Physician" award by the north German city of Hanover. Former German chancellor Gerhard Schröder hailed the 70-year-old Samii for his medical contribution to neuroscience as head of the world renowned International Neuroscience Institute (INI), based in Hanover. You have brought more internationality to the city. People from all over the world are coming to be treated by you," added Schröder in his speech to a high-profile crowd, among them ex-Indonesian president Jusuf Habibie and former German foreign minister Klaus Kinkel.

Schröder stressed that Samii has not only brought the world to Hanover but has also made the city world-famous. Deeply touched by the award ceremony, Samii said, "I am only a simple doctor, a great honor was bestowed upon me." Samii invited Schröder to China in 2008 for laying the foundation of the planned neuroscience clinic. Samii has built a great international neuroscience institute INI in cooperation with the University of Beijing. In 2007, he received Chinese top award, "Friendship Award", from Prime minister of China for his contribution to the medical progress of the country.[2]

Lotfi A. Zadeh: Lotfali Askar Zadeh (born February 4, 1921), better known as Lotfi A. Zadeh, is a mathematician, electrical engineer, computer scientist, artificial intelligence researcher and professor emeritus[1] of computer science at the University of California, Berkeley.

Ali Javan: Ali Mortimer Javan (Persian: علی جوان - ‘Ali Javān, Azerbaijani: علی جوان - ‘Əli Cavan), born December 26, 1926 in Tehran, Iran is an Iranian American inventor and physicist at MIT. He co-invented the gas laser in 1960, with William R. Bennett.[1] Ali Javan has been ranked Number 12 on the list of the Top 100 living geniuses.[2]

Mehran Kardar: Mehran Kardar is a prominent Iranian born physicist, full Professor of Physics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and co-faculty at the New England Complex Systems Institute. He received his B.A. in Cambridge University, and gained his Ph.D at MIT. Mehran Kardar is particularly known for the KPZ equation (Kardar-Parisi-Zhang[1]) in theoretical physics, which has been named after him and collaborators. He was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship in 2001. He is the author of two books,

Statistical Physics of Fields. University of Cambridge Press, 2007. ISBN 9780521873413,
Statistical Physics of Particles. University of Cambridge Press, 2007. ISBN 9780521873420,

and of about 200 scientific papers.

Karim Nayernia: Karim Nayernia is an Iranian biomedical scientist and a world expert on stem cell biology.

He carried out pioneering work that has the potential to lead to future therapies for a range of medical conditions such as heart disease, Parkinson's disease and male infertility[citation needed]. His team was the first in the world to isolate a new type of stem cell from adult mouse testes (male sex glands), called spermatagonial stem cells. It was able to show that some of these stem cells, called multipotent adult germline stem cells (maGSCs), turned into heart, muscle, brain and other cells[citation needed]. Prof Nayernia and his team proposed that similar cells could be extracted from men using a simple testicular biopsy. On the basis of these cells, new stem cell techniques could be developed in order to treat a variety of illnesses.

and I can go for at least more hundred names.

Also check this one out:

Sharif University of Technology Best in World in Field of Electrical Engineering: Stanford Chancellor
TEHRAN, July 28 (Mehr News Agency) -- Sharif University of Technology is the best university in the world for a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering, said the chancellor of Stanford University in the United States.

The university with the highest number of graduates who passed the most recent entrance exam for Stanford University's Ph.D. program in electrical engineering was Sharif University of Technology, the Persian language daily Sharif reported.



Fifteen Iranian students passed the exam, most of them graduates of Sharif University of Technology. The students who got the three top scores were all Sharif graduates.



This is the first time that a foreign university has had more students accepted for Stanford University's Ph.D. program in electrical engineering than any U.S. university.
MehrNews.com - Iran, world, political, sport, economic news and headlines

Iran Makes the Sciences A Part of Its Revolution
TEHRAN -- As Burton Richter, an American Nobel laureate in physics, entered the main auditorium of Tehran's prestigious Sharif University, hundreds of students rose to give him a loud and lengthy ovation. But Richter, wearing a white suit and leaning on a cane, said he was the one who should be awed.

"The students here are very impressive," Richter said, lauding the high level of education at Sharif. "I expect to hear a lot more from you all in the future."
Iran Makes the Sciences A Part of Its Revolution

"The Star Students Of The Islamic Republic, Forget Harvard—one of the world's best undergraduate colleges is in Iran.". Newsweek. 9 August 2008. Retrieved 17 November 2008.
Surprising Success of Iran's Universities - The Daily Beast

And many many more....

You want me to name some Iranian innovations that have changed the world? From what period of history do you want to know? contemporary Iranian innovations?
well, I can say many Iranian innovations have changed the world, but people don't know much about it. I can name many Iranian research papers and innovations in mathematics, chemistry and nanotechnology or related fields that have changed the world.

Just to name some examples:

Scientists with an Iranian background have made significant contributions to the international scientific community. In 1960, Ali Javan invented first gas laser. In 1973, the fuzzy set theory was developed by Lotfi Zadeh. Iranian cardiologist Tofy Mussivand invented the first artificial heart and afterwards developed it further. HbA1c was discovered by Samuel Rahbar and introduced to the medical community. The Vafa-Witten theorem was proposed by Cumrun Vafa, an Iranian string theorist, and his co-worker Edward Witten. The Kardar-Parisi-Zhang (KPZ) equation has been named after Mehran Kardar, notable Iranian physicist. Extraordinary because of multidisciplinary works at a young age, Ali Eftekhari is considered a founder of electrochemical nanotechnology and creator of surprising theories such as the Fractal Geometry of Literature.

Karim Nayernia: discovery of spermatagonial stem cells
Reza Ghadiri: 1998 Feynman prize for invention of a self-organized replicating molecular system
Mehdi Vaez-Iravani: invention of shear force microscopy
Siavash Alamouti and Vahid Tarokh: invention of space–time block code
Faraneh Vargha-Khadem: discovery of SPCH1 , a gene implicated in a severe speech and language disorder
Shirin Dehghan: 2006 Women in Technology Award[100]
Nader Engheta, inventor of "invisibility shield" (plasmonic cover) and research leader of the year 2006, Scientific American magazine,[101] and winner of a Guggenheim Fellowship (1999) for "Fractional paradigm of classical electrodynamics"
Ali Safaeinili: coinventor of Mars Advanced Radar for Subsurface and Ionosphere Sounding (MARSIS)[102]
Shahriar Afshar: proposed the Afshar experiment
Rouzbeh Yassini: inventor of the cable modem
Homayoun Seraji: most-published author in the 20-year history of the Journal of Robotic Systems (declared in 2007).
Moslem Bahadori: reported the first case of plasma cell granuloma of the lung.
Mohammad Abdollahi: The Laureate of IAS-COMSTECH 2005 Prize in the field of Pharmacology and Toxicology and a IAS Fellow. MA is ranked as an International Top 1% outstanding Scientists of the World in the field of Pharmacology & Toxicology according to Essential Science Indicator from USA Thompson Reuters ISI.[103] An award named "Mohammad Abdollahi Prize" has been established by Asian Network for Scientific Information and Science Alert Publishing company and The International Journal of Pharmacology in the recognition of MA efforts in the field of Pharmacology & Toxicology.[104] MA is also known as one of outstanding leading scientists of OIC member countries.[105]
Maysam Ghovanloo: inventor of Tongue-Drive Wheelchair.
Mansour Ahmadian and Jila Nazari: Developers of PARS (Parallel Application from Rapid Simulation) which won the IET Innovation award 2008 in software design[106][107][108][109][110][111]
Mohammad-Nabi Sarbolouki, invention of dendrosome[112]
Shekoufeh Nikfar: The awardee of the top women scientists by TWAS-TWOWS-Scopus in the field of Medicine in 2009.[113][114]
Afsaneh Rabiei: inventor[115] of an ultra-strong and lightweight material, known as Composite Metal Foam (CMF).[116]

you want more?
 
Also lets not forget these recent medical advances by Iranians:

Iranian brain surgeons devise brain surgery methods which have helped reduce death rates for severe head injuries from 80% to 20%: Brain injuries: Changes in the treatment of brain injuries have improved survival rate - latimes.com

Iranian scientists develop a test which can predict when a woman hits menopause which is considered as the most important breakthrough in female sexuality since the advent of modern contraceptive pills: Scientists find way to predict timing of menopause | Reuters

Iranian scientists develop a new kind of interferon beta-1a which is used in treatment of multiple sclerosis: CinnoVex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Also lets not forget these recent medical advances by Iranians:

Iranian brain surgeons devise brain surgery methods which have helped reduce death rates for severe head injuries from 80% to 20%: Brain injuries: Changes in the treatment of brain injuries have improved survival rate - latimes.com

Iranian scientists develop a test which can predict when a woman hits menopause which is considered as the most important breakthrough in female sexuality since the advent of modern contraceptive pills: Scientists find way to predict timing of menopause | Reuters

Iranian scientists develop a new kind of interferon beta-1a which is used in treatment of multiple sclerosis: CinnoVex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It really is great to see all these medical advancements in science by Iran. They must be commended because of this. All the bad press they get ,all the sanctions and of course the constant fear of terrorist attacks on their scientists by mossad yet they shine through - well done Iran!
 
It really is great to see all these medical advancements in science by Iran. They must be commended because of this. All the bad press they get ,all the sanctions and of course the constant fear of terrorist attacks on their scientists by mossad yet they shine through - well done Iran!

Unfortunately there are very few people encouraging and commending Iranians on the progress they are making. It is very shameful that US and Israel are killing their scientists in order to stop their progress, it is so cheap and childish. And the western media never tries to set the records straight either. And to make matters worse, even Iranian media is not doing a good job at promoting Iranian developments and its significance. In a way it is very sad and tragic.
 
Unfortunately there are very few people encouraging and commending Iranians on the progress they are making. It is very shameful that US and Israel are killing their scientists in order to stop their progress, it is so cheap and childish. And the western media never tries to set the records straight either. And to make matters worse, even Iranian media is not doing a good job at promoting Iranian developments and its significance. In a way it is very sad and tragic.
I believe the achievements are being noted hence the drum beating and anti Iranian news articles are getting more day by day. The drum beating goes on. We know its burning them - if anyother nation was having their civilians and scientists knocked out - Nato would be employed - ground troops would be implemented. Instead the west hid the crimes committed by the zionists. Shame on them.

If any other nation was treated in this manner their would be a world outcry.
 
I believe the achievements are being noted hence the drum beating and anti Iranian news articles are getting more day by day. The drum beating goes on. We know its burning them - if anyother nation was having their civilians and scientists knocked out - Nato would be employed - ground troops would be implemented. Instead the west hid the crimes committed by the zionists. Shame on them.

If any other nation was treated in this manner their would be a world outcry.

Yes, this is not a fair world at all. The big fish is trying to eat the small fish. The bully talks and the rest are scared to open their mouths. But one thing is sure here; Iran is now being viewed as a moral victor here at least among those who still have some unwashed brain left in their skulls. And this is very important for historical record.
 
Yes, this is not a fair world at all. The big fish is trying to eat the small fish. The bully talks and the rest are scared to open their mouths. But one thing is sure here; Iran is now being viewed as a moral victor here at least among those who still have some unwashed brain left in their skulls. And this is very important for historical record.

but i think the big fish may have chewed too much and may have its belly overloaded this time. I salute Iran in all its achievements and standing up for itself against all the atrocities of the west. I commend their development and hope it continues!!
 
The West is only wanting to stop Iran's Nuclear ambitions
Thats not true, its just a pretext. If it wouldnt be nuclear progress, it would something else. For example Gaddafi closed his nuclear weapons program, how he is doing now? West and US in particular dont need any real reason to start the war, they can use whatever comes up, or invents the pretext (fake WMD by Hussein, fake genocide by Gaddafi, etc).

Lets not forget sanctions on Iran started long before nuclear program, and sanctions would remain even if Iran would close it tonight. The main goal of sanctions isnt to inhibit program itself, its to make country weaker when time to attack comes (including prohibition to buy defensive weapons).
 
Over my dead body will Iran lead us. Sorry if it hurts the feelings of some people here but me and 40 Million other people agree with me on this. The only way it can "Lead" us is if it kills every single last one of us understand??
Iran will definitely lead you guys not militarily but through science and technology. What I mean by that is you will be signing deals, importing cars etc from Iran instead of the US cuz they will be a lot cheaper. just wait and watch.

With all the world's wealth under the Saudi Monarchy's feet, in 100 years they havn't invented a single thing or even opened a World Class University.

In fact uptil the 90s the Saudi regime was too scared to open schools and universities fearing that educated Saudis might overthrow the corrupt ruling house of Saud if they came to know too much about their rights.


lol
the link we were giving you already had 2010 as the input. The only way it could have changed was if you changed it to 1996-2010 yourself so nice try

and dammam eh? Why are all Saudi Pakistanis so anti Iran? Musa has the audacity to call others brainwashed.

A good portion of Pakistanis are descendants of the Arabs and Persians. But to be honest with you, the Iranians hatred for Arabs is the root cause of animosity. And this is dated back to the great caliph Omar Al-Farooq (ra) invasion and conquer of Persia, that both the shiitte regime and the Iranians still cannot swallow.

My Iranian professor of Islamic history made a comment against Omar (ra), many arab and Pakistani sunni's walked out of class in protest. I still believe this is the root cause of divide between Arabs and Persians.

The Iranian regime inherited this hatred from the Shia Safavid dynasty that made 12er Shiasm into a state religion and forced all Sunnis from Persia in to Shiasm. Remember the whole persia was sunni and had been spread by the struggle of Ahlul bayt and the Sufi's.
 
^^ nice story, but why did you quote me? Had nothing to do with my comment.
 
In the region is the key word here. Turkey is the only country in the region ahead of Iran right now and only by a small margin. Iran will probably overtake Turkey in the next couple of years in terms of research publication.

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Irans research output increased more than 4 times in ten years(2000-2010) from 7000 papers to 28000.

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Have you read the full thing? they are saying they will be first in the world by 2025 and first in region well before that...
 
Have you read the full thing? they are saying they will be first in the world by 2025 and first in region well before that...

Well, that is not entirely true. While Iran can comfortably be first in the region and among the top ten world wide, but it can never become the first in the world. That is not simply possible. The reason for that is science production depends on many factors such as education, healthcare, research funding, stable economy, stable political and security situation among others. But one other important factor is the population. There is always a small segment of the society that have the intelligence and urge to go to research and economy of a nation needs all kinds of people from researchers to toilet cleaners, so every one can not become top scientists in a given nation. Iran has a population of just 75 million and there are many countries that have a population greater than Iran which will always remain above Iran in science production eg. United States and China.

There is a theory in anthropology which basically says, in today's world with our level of technological sophistication, a self sustaining nation that wants to be completely self reliant without any contact with the rest of humanity must have a critical population level of 70 to 80 million people in order to remain technologically advanced. This population level is necessary to have enough people who can provide enough human resources to work and research in every scientific and technological fields from aerospace to IT and from medical sciences to nanotechnology. And this is possible under best conditions wherein every one is educated and economy is maximally efficient, but perhaps a practical ideal level of population would be 120 million to 180 million taking into account that there are always people who are sick, uneducated, or even considering the redundancy for mass deaths due to possible wars and suddenly arising diseases. Any nation that has a lower population level will always have to depend on other nations for some of its technology and science. It is no surprise that US with a population of 330 million is leading the world. Iran can not become first because of this reason, but it can become an important player in the world.


Edit: Though perhaps Iran can become first in some of the fields in the long run but not in all of the fields of science and technology.
 
Have you read the full thing? they are saying they will be first in the world by 2025 and first in region well before that...
no offense but you're high bro
grab a calculator and calculate Iran's growth over the past 5 years and average it (go HERE for the numbers). Than times it by 15 (2010-2025). See what we will get. Love you, but don't repeat the propeganda of an official or you will make us all look at bad. We're not there yet.
 
no offense but you're high bro
grab a calculator and calculate Iran's growth over the past 5 years and average it (go HERE for the numbers). Than times it by 15 (2010-2025). See what we will get. Love you, but don't repeat the propeganda of an official or you will make us all look at bad. We're not there yet.

Actually you can not simply multiply it by 15. Iran's growth is 27% per year as per US government report "science and engineering indicators" and for that you have to use compound interest calculator. If we take Iran's current publications rate at 28000 and the growth as 27% per year after 15 years of growing at that rate it will come out as 1,009,749 publications per year. That is twice the publication rate of the United States. Iran simply can not maintain such a high growth level since its population is too small to compete with US or China. Iran can reach to top ten position but never to the first in the world. To publish one million scientific articles per year means that Iran must have over a million dedicated researchers, with each one of them on average publish one article every year. Since most research articles are written by more than one author some times by a team of authors and after years of research, this is simply not possible with a 75 million population.
 
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