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Iran stands against spread of instability in Mideast: Defense minister

obviously since i am not forced to believe what Mullah want me to believe, i.e. every Iranian proxy is holy.. :rofl:
Smiley won't make you credible , if he could be bought by the one who bid more be assured the one who assassinated him and their masters could out bid Iran and Other of his supporters in a heart beat and gain a tool instead of killing him.
 
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Lol what's with this Iranian -Pakistani arguments? Lol

Anyway, coming to topic, obviously an Iranian defence official will say his country is against instability in the region. Any country official will say the same, no surprise about that. So ont understand why some people are arguing about this.
Thing is, many people will agree that the authoritarian Saudi monarchs and mullahs of Iran are the main regional players of sectarianism and battle or regional leadership in the region. They are the two heavy weights pilling the strings with their proxies in this troubled region.:D Let's see whose 'holy' version of Islam will prevail. :enjoy:
 
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This whole conflict has highlighted the holes in Iran's foreign policy. Israel has outsmarted Iran, Iran is fortunate that Israel isn't and is unable to capitalise on their position.

Although, I agree, Iran has tried to have a stabilising effect it's come at a terrible cost for the country's foreign policy. Your only achievement despite this bizarre desire of the clerics to unite the muslim countries has been the liberation of Southern Lebanon and somehow remaining unscathed by the US.

Talking about, Iraq, you had no choice but to involve yourself given that they border you and what happens there will ultimately effect you. However, let us not forget that no matter how much Najaf tries to hide it, this will always be the nation that backstabbed the Imam[as]. Now the Sunnis may have stuck the dagger in his chest, but it may as well have been Iraqi Shias given their passivity. Apologists will claim that was long ago, well the Iran-Iraq[Operation Ramadhan] war was only a couple of decades ago, we saw the same thing once again. Now onto the present day, despite the vast help from Iran, prominent leaders of Iraq that hold sway continue to diminish and criticise Iran's role. It's not just the leaders, either. Although Iraq is predominantly Shia it should have no bearing on your relations with them especially given the fact that they're downright fucking useless. Iraqis are no different to the Saudis. In fact, I respect the Saudis more than them. Only God knows why Iran associates with Iraq. Iran has gone above and beyond for a nation that'll forever be a thorn in Iran's side

Palestine is no different, either. It's time Iran reaches out to Israel, and ultimately better its relationship with the West and reap the rewards of the foreign investment that would most definitely flood in from both western and eastern sectors. Ex Mossad chief, Mr.Halevy has recently said Israel is ready for talks with Iran, it is about time Iran moved on for the betterment of its own people.

Islam has moved on from the Arabs yet it is bewildering to see Iranians and Pakistani Sunnis constantly throw the ball back in their court and continue to make them relevant.

Why have pakistanis become anti-Iran/anti-Iranian now?

Did you bother to engage your brain before asking such an inane question? I would love to know how you worked on this supposition that all Pakistanis hate Iran/Iranians from a small vocal minority of Pakistanis on PDF.

Suparco and Malik Abdullah are hardly decent representative of Pakistan when both are pretty much staunch supporters of the cancer that permeates throughout the country's civil, military and intelligence services. Also, both pay homage to the sand dwellers in Riyadh on a daily basis.

I would much rather ascertain the views on Iranians from Pakistanis living in Pakistan as that's what truly matters and that's what ultimately will decide Pakistan's relationship with Iran. Below is a conducted poll by Gallup and it is shows the feeling of Pakistanis in regards to Iran. See for yourself before spreading your bile on here.

It will debunk this bizarre assumption of yours that Pakistanis hates Iran/Iranians. I'm unable to post the exact page as I'm on my phone but surely you can scroll down and gather the relevant information, right?

globescan - images/images/pressreleases/bbc2014_country_ratings/2014_country_rating_poll_bbc_globescan . Pdf[ I can't post the link given my post count but I'm sure you can c & p parts of the link into the google searchbar in order to obtain the site]

And do believe me No One like Pakistanis out of ur country and probably suadi. I have been to some of foreign countries for some months, Pakistanis are disliked on a high level.. but Iranians are popular and much respected due to their 'civilization' and being Persians. You are only respected in your small heads.

If here was not a Pakistani forum, I would write much more clear.

Pakistan definitely has a poor image throughout the world and it thoroughly deserves it. You can't expect people to have a good image of Pakistan when they're scrapping at the bottom of the barrel. However, stop deluding yourself that Iran has a decent world image. As Shia, their hands are tied in Pakistan given the Sunni demographic who are utterly stupid. However, what's your excuse?

You have the right ideology, a stable country, blessed with natural resources, a highly literate and educated nation. All the hallmarks for a thriving economy yet you languish in mediocrity. Honestly, I would be more embarrassed to be an Iranian than a Pakistani.
 
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Martyred for what? USA's interests eh?

Bro i am new here. Pakistani comments over Taliban and Iran in this website forced me to do a research. I found out wahabi land of KSA has almost 5000 wahabi educational institutions in Pakistan which is spreading and learning Pakistanis of wahabi beliefs. Unfortunately Pakistan has a huge number of wahabis in it's territory. Don't bother of these comments. They have been fooled by Saudis.
Currently many Pakistani women in KSA are ... by whabis but our Pakistani friends here and also in their country are not aware of that. They know so little of Jewish Al-Saud house.
What? I've never seen Pakistan woman with some short Arab loser, I have seen many Arab women in KSA with Pakistani males both Pashtun and Punjabi also.
 
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Lol what's with this Iranian -Pakistani arguments? Lol

Anyway, coming to topic, obviously an Iranian defence official will say his country is against instability in the region. Any country official will say the same, no surprise about that. So ont understand why some people are arguing about this.
Thing is, many people will agree that the authoritarian Saudi monarchs and mullahs of Iran are the main regional players of sectarianism and battle or regional leadership in the region. They are the two heavy weights pilling the strings with their proxies in this troubled region.:D Let's see whose 'holy' version of Islam will prevail. :enjoy:

I don't think that Saudis are able to pill strings in this region on their own and without getting help from the US and UK ... actually they mostly serve your interests to stay in power ...I mean this 2 ways street you provide them with weapons and save their arse and in return they would follow your lead ...
 
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The whole Middle East should stand against instability in there and not play to the divide and rule policies of others who do not belong there..
 
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I don't think that Saudis are able to pill strings in this region on their own and without getting help from the US and UK ... actually they mostly serve your interests to stay in power ...I mean this 2 ways street you provide them with weapons and save their arse and in return they would follow your lead ...
To be honest, that's not entirely correct, even without U.S/U.K support, KSA has its own interests in the region which often differs from that of U.S and UK . They also often follow their own interests irregardless of our concerns.
Truth be told, KSA as far more religious influence and hold on Islam than any other Muslim COUNTRY(including Iran) and they have the financial power to back it up. That is something that even without western support they will still have tremendous influence in the middle east and wider Muslim world, Plus they are the leader of ARAB WORLD and will always have a somehow soft spot among most(not all) Arab states. So the strings they pull in the region isn't because of us. Just like the strings Iran pulls in the region isn't because of Russia or whatever. :)

The whole Middle East should stand against instability in regio and not play to the divide and rule policies of others who do not belong there..
The whole middle east should stand against instability? Lol You are stating the obvious. Obviously every region(not just middle East) ought to stand against instability. Lol
However reality and geo politics are always harsh and different from dreams. Good luck making peace between KSA and Iran for example .lol
Others "who do not belong there " as you put it are secondary. Even without them the region will still carry on with conflict and fight for regional dominance. :)

This whole conflict has highlighted the holes in Iran's foreign policy. Israel has outsmarted Iran, Iran is fortunate that Israel isn't and is unable to capitalise on their position.

Although, I agree, Iran has tried to have a stabilising effect it's come at a terrible cost for the country's foreign policy. Your only achievement despite this bizarre desire of the clerics to unite the muslim countries has been the liberation of Southern Lebanon and somehow remaining unscathed by the US.

Talking about, Iraq, you had no choice but to involve yourself given that they border you and what happens there will ultimately effect you. However, let us not forget that no matter how much Najaf tries to hide it, this will always be the nation that backstabbed the Imam[as]. Now the Sunnis may have stuck the dagger in his chest, but it may as well have been Iraqi Shias given their passivity. Apologists will claim that was long ago, well the Iran-Iraq[Operation Ramadhan] war was only a couple of decades ago, we saw the same thing once again. Now onto the present day, despite the vast help from Iran, prominent leaders of Iraq that hold sway continue to diminish and criticise Iran's role. It's not just the leaders, either. Although Iraq is predominantly Shia it should have no bearing on your relations with them especially given the fact that they're downright fucking useless. Iraqis are no different to the Saudis. In fact, I respect the Saudis more than them. Only God knows why Iran associates with Iraq. Iran has gone above and beyond for a nation that'll forever be a thorn in Iran's side

Palestine is no different, either. It's time Iran reaches out to Israel, and ultimately better its relationship with the West and reap the rewards of the foreign investment that would most definitely flood in from both western and eastern sectors. Ex Mossad chief, Mr.Halevy has recently said Israel is ready for talks with Iran, it is about time Iran moved on for the betterment of its own people.

Islam has moved on from the Arabs yet it is bewildering to see Iranians and Pakistani Sunnis constantly throw the ball back in their court and continue to make them relevant.



Did you bother to engage your brain before asking such an inane question? I would love to know how you worked on this supposition that all Pakistanis hate Iran/Iranians from a small vocal minority of Pakistanis on PDF.

Suparco and Malik Abdullah are hardly decent representative of Pakistan when both are pretty much staunch supporters of the cancer that permeates throughout the country's civil, military and intelligence services. Also, both pay homage to the sand dwellers in Riyadh on a daily basis.

I would much rather ascertain the views on Iranians from Pakistanis living in Pakistan as that's what truly matters and that's what ultimately will decide Pakistan's relationship with Iran. Below is a conducted poll by Gallup and it is shows the feeling of Pakistanis in regards to Iran. See for yourself before spreading your bile on here.

It will debunk this bizarre assumption of yours that Pakistanis hates Iran/Iranians. I'm unable to post the exact page as I'm on my phone but surely you can scroll down and gather the relevant information, right?

globescan - images/images/pressreleases/bbc2014_country_ratings/2014_country_rating_poll_bbc_globescan . Pdf[ I can't post the link given my post count but I'm sure you can c & p parts of the link into the google searchbar in order to obtain the site]



Pakistan definitely has a poor image throughout the world and it thoroughly deserves it. You can't expect people to have a good image of Pakistan when they're scrapping at the bottom of the barrel. However, stop deluding yourself that Iran has a decent world image. As Shia, their hands are tied in Pakistan given the Sunni demographic who are utterly stupid. However, what's your excuse?

You have the right ideology, a stable country, blessed with natural resources, a highly literate and educated nation. All the hallmarks for a thriving economy yet you languish in mediocrity. Honestly, I would be more embarrassed to be an Iranian than a Pakistani.
Funny enough, I agree completely with what you said. 100%:tup:
 
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