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Sunnis are real Arabs? Killing the Sunnis them won't resurrect your empire back
it was all and over.Iran says may send forces into Pak territory
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Sunnis are real Arabs? Killing the Sunnis them won't resurrect your empire back
it was all and over.
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last time i checked they left Iran alive can we say same thing about people in twin towers.So, that never indicated any governmental involvement by KSA.
Unlike the civilized Iranians who did this by the name and the approval of the state:
Iran hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The hatred they carried toward Arabs is one thing, to remind them we are all equal is another thing.
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So, according to you, Islam didnt come from God, it comes from Arabs?
So you are not a Muslim then, are you? Interesting. In your country, you can be beheaded for denying God and saying what you just said about Islam being an Arab fiction.
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Some sick fucks here glorifying rape and murder. No wonder the region is fucked.
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guess where is his family now.
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So, according to you, Islam didnt come from God, it comes from Arabs?
So you are not a Muslim then, are you? Interesting. In your country, you can be beheaded for denying God and saying what you just said about Islam being an Arab fiction.
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WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists | World news | The Guardian
The History of Terrorism: More than 200 Years of Development
Terrorism in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The terrorist Ajmal Amir Kasab walks through the Chhatrapati Shivaji train station in Mumbai during the 2008 attacks. Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the atrocity, is one of several groups that have raised funds via Saudi Arabia. Photograph: Sebastian D'souza/AP
Saudi Arabia is the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary Clinton.
"More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups," says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
"Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide," she said.
Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates.
The cables highlight an often ignored factor in the Pakistani and Afghan conflicts: that the violence is partly bankrolled by rich, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them.
The problem is particularly acute in Saudi Arabia, where militants soliciting funds slip into the country disguised as holy pilgrims, set up front companies to launder funds and receive money from government-sanctioned charities.
One cable details how the Pakistani militant outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, used a Saudi-based front company to fund its activities in 2005.
Meanwhile officials with the LeT's charity wing, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, travelled to Saudi Arabia seeking donations for new schools at vastly inflated costs – then siphoned off the excess money to fund militant operations.
Militants seeking donations often come during the hajj pilgrimage – "a major security loophole since pilgrims often travel with large amounts of cash and the Saudis cannot refuse them entry into Saudi Arabia". Even a small donation can go far: LeT operates on a budget of just $5.25m (£3.25m) a year, according to American estimates.
Saudi officials are often painted as reluctant partners. Clinton complained of the "ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist funds emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority".
Washington is critical of the Saudi refusal to ban three charities classified as terrorist entities in the US. "Intelligence suggests that these groups continue to send money overseas and, at times, fund extremism overseas," she said.
There has been some progress. This year US officials reported that al-Qaida's fundraising ability had "deteriorated substantially" since a government crackdown. As a result Bin Laden's group was "in its weakest state since 9/11" in Saudi Arabia.
Any criticisms are generally offered in private. The cables show that when it comes to powerful oil-rich allies US diplomats save their concerns for closed-door talks, in stark contrast to the often pointed criticism meted out to allies in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Instead, officials at the Riyadh embassy worry about protecting Saudi oilfields from al-Qaida attacks.
The other major headache for the US in the Gulf region is the United Arab Emirates. The Afghan Taliban and their militant partners the Haqqani network earn "significant funds" through UAE-based businesses, according to one report. The Taliban extort money from the large Pashtun community in the UAE, which is home to 1 million Pakistanis and 150,000 Afghans. They also fundraise by kidnapping Pashtun businessmen based in Dubai or their relatives.
"Some Afghan businessmen in the UAE have resorted to purchasing tickets on the day of travel to limit the chance of being kidnapped themselves upon arrival in either Afghanistan or Pakistan," the report says.
Last January US intelligence sources said two senior Taliban fundraisers had regularly travelled to the UAE, where the Taliban and Haqqani networks laundered money through local front companies.
One report singled out a Kabul-based "Haqqani facilitator", Haji Khalil Zadran, as a key figure. But, Clinton complained, it was hard to be sure: the UAE's weak financial regulation and porous borders left US investigators with "limited information" on the identity of Taliban and LeT facilitators.
The lack of border controls was "exploited by Taliban couriers and Afghan drug lords camouflaged among traders, businessmen and migrant workers", she said.
In an effort to stem the flow of funds American and UAE officials are increasingly co-operating to catch the "cash couriers" – smugglers who fly giant sums of money into Pakistan and Afghanistan.
In common with its neighbours Kuwait is described as a "source of funds and a key transit point" for al-Qaida and other militant groups. While the government has acted against attacks on its own soil, it is "less inclined to take action against Kuwait-based financiers and facilitators plotting attacks outside of Kuwait".
Kuwait has refused to ban the Revival of Islamic Heritage Society, a charity the US designated a terrorist entity in June 2008 for providing aid to al-Qaida and affiliated groups, including LeT.
There is little information about militant fundraising in the fourth Gulf country singled out, Qatar, other than to say its "overall level of CT co-operation with the US is considered the worst in the region".
The funding quagmire extends to Pakistan itself, where the US cables detail sharp criticism of the government's ambivalence towards funding of militant groups that enjoy covert military support.
The cables show how before the Mumbai attacks in 2008, Pakistani and Chinese diplomats manoeuvred hard to block UN sanctions against Jamaat-ud-Dawa.
But in August 2009, nine months after sanctions were finally imposed, US diplomats wrote: "We continue to see reporting indicating that JUD is still operating in multiple locations in Pakistan and that the group continues to openly raise funds". JUD denies it is the charity wing of LeT.
• This article was amended on 15 December 2010. The original caption referred to the Chatrapathi Sivaji station in Mumbai. This has been corrected.
WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists | World news | The Guardian
The History of Terrorism: More than 200 Years of Development
Terrorism in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The terrorist Ajmal Amir Kasab walks through the Chhatrapati Shivaji train station in Mumbai during the 2008 attacks. Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the atrocity, is one of several groups that have raised funds via Saudi Arabia. Photograph: Sebastian D'souza/AP
Saudi Arabia is the world's largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary Clinton.
"More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups," says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
"Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide," she said.
Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates.
The cables highlight an often ignored factor in the Pakistani and Afghan conflicts: that the violence is partly bankrolled by rich, conservative donors across the Arabian Sea whose governments do little to stop them.
The problem is particularly acute in Saudi Arabia, where militants soliciting funds slip into the country disguised as holy pilgrims, set up front companies to launder funds and receive money from government-sanctioned charities.
One cable details how the Pakistani militant outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, used a Saudi-based front company to fund its activities in 2005.
Meanwhile officials with the LeT's charity wing, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, travelled to Saudi Arabia seeking donations for new schools at vastly inflated costs – then siphoned off the excess money to fund militant operations.
Militants seeking donations often come during the hajj pilgrimage – "a major security loophole since pilgrims often travel with large amounts of cash and the Saudis cannot refuse them entry into Saudi Arabia". Even a small donation can go far: LeT operates on a budget of just $5.25m (£3.25m) a year, according to American estimates.
Saudi officials are often painted as reluctant partners. Clinton complained of the "ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist funds emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority".
Washington is critical of the Saudi refusal to ban three charities classified as terrorist entities in the US. "Intelligence suggests that these groups continue to send money overseas and, at times, fund extremism overseas," she said.
There has been some progress. This year US officials reported that al-Qaida's fundraising ability had "deteriorated substantially" since a government crackdown. As a result Bin Laden's group was "in its weakest state since 9/11" in Saudi Arabia.
Any criticisms are generally offered in private. The cables show that when it comes to powerful oil-rich allies US diplomats save their concerns for closed-door talks, in stark contrast to the often pointed criticism meted out to allies in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Instead, officials at the Riyadh embassy worry about protecting Saudi oilfields from al-Qaida attacks.
The other major headache for the US in the Gulf region is the United Arab Emirates. The Afghan Taliban and their militant partners the Haqqani network earn "significant funds" through UAE-based businesses, according to one report. The Taliban extort money from the large Pashtun community in the UAE, which is home to 1 million Pakistanis and 150,000 Afghans. They also fundraise by kidnapping Pashtun businessmen based in Dubai or their relatives.
"Some Afghan businessmen in the UAE have resorted to purchasing tickets on the day of travel to limit the chance of being kidnapped themselves upon arrival in either Afghanistan or Pakistan," the report says.
Last January US intelligence sources said two senior Taliban fundraisers had regularly travelled to the UAE, where the Taliban and Haqqani networks laundered money through local front companies.
One report singled out a Kabul-based "Haqqani facilitator", Haji Khalil Zadran, as a key figure. But, Clinton complained, it was hard to be sure: the UAE's weak financial regulation and porous borders left US investigators with "limited information" on the identity of Taliban and LeT facilitators.
The lack of border controls was "exploited by Taliban couriers and Afghan drug lords camouflaged among traders, businessmen and migrant workers", she said.
In an effort to stem the flow of funds American and UAE officials are increasingly co-operating to catch the "cash couriers" – smugglers who fly giant sums of money into Pakistan and Afghanistan.
In common with its neighbours Kuwait is described as a "source of funds and a key transit point" for al-Qaida and other militant groups. While the government has acted against attacks on its own soil, it is "less inclined to take action against Kuwait-based financiers and facilitators plotting attacks outside of Kuwait".
Kuwait has refused to ban the Revival of Islamic Heritage Society, a charity the US designated a terrorist entity in June 2008 for providing aid to al-Qaida and affiliated groups, including LeT.
There is little information about militant fundraising in the fourth Gulf country singled out, Qatar, other than to say its "overall level of CT co-operation with the US is considered the worst in the region".
The funding quagmire extends to Pakistan itself, where the US cables detail sharp criticism of the government's ambivalence towards funding of militant groups that enjoy covert military support.
The cables show how before the Mumbai attacks in 2008, Pakistani and Chinese diplomats manoeuvred hard to block UN sanctions against Jamaat-ud-Dawa.
But in August 2009, nine months after sanctions were finally imposed, US diplomats wrote: "We continue to see reporting indicating that JUD is still operating in multiple locations in Pakistan and that the group continues to openly raise funds". JUD denies it is the charity wing of LeT.
• This article was amended on 15 December 2010. The original caption referred to the Chatrapathi Sivaji station in Mumbai. This has been corrected.
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So, according to you, Islam didnt come from God, it comes from Arabs?
So you are not a Muslim then, are you? Interesting. In your country, you can be beheaded for denying God and saying what you just said about Islam being an Arab fiction.
I never said such thing. Your fellow countrymen said Iran was smart enough to kill the Sunnis - Real Arabs -
I said to him that your former enemy gave you the faith you supposedly and primarily fought them for, among other things, if that helps.
What does the family have to do with an act of an individual? His own family runs business within the US itself.guess where is his family now.
Wikileaks doesn't function as a legitimate source.
Speaking of terror, I would like to remind you that Iran is the only internationally recognized state sponsoring terror along with Cuba, and North Korea.
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LOL
Dont try and wriggle your way out of what you really think and believe like a little worm or maggot. You just exposed yourself and said:
"The thing is that your entire civilization was wiped off by none other than the Arabs.
They converted you to their religion, they gave you their alphabet, you pray toward their land, and you even lash yourself in the name of their own forefather."
You have just denied that Islam came from God, and have made the claim that it came from Arabs. What is the Arabic term for people like you again? kafir? monafeq?
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The only reason the US doesn't declare KSA a rogue state is because of their relations. Both Iran and KSA support terrorist groups, lets end it at that and get back on topic?
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sure, then spread some peace instead of us.I never said such thing. Your fellow countrymen said Iran was smart enough to kill the Sunnis - Real Arabs -
I said to him that your former enemy gave you the faith you supposedly and primarily fought them for, among other things, if that helps.
What does the family have to do with an act of an individual? His own family runs business within the US itself.
Wikileaks doesn't function as a legitimate source.
Speaking of terror, I would like to remind you that Iran is the only internationally recognized state sponsoring terror along with Cuba, and North Korea.
ps:what about abc 9/11 Families 'Ecstatic' They Can Finally Sue Saudi Arabia - ABC News
http://www.cfr.org/yemen/al-qaeda-arabian-peninsula-aqap/p9369
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Why are you so worried about what Americans say? Americans spout BS about anyone they don't like.sure, then spread some peace instead of us.
ps:what about abc 9/11 Families 'Ecstatic' They Can Finally Sue Saudi Arabia - ABC News
http://www.cfr.org/yemen/al-qaeda-arabian-peninsula-aqap/p9369
Take a look at this Judge nails Iran, Al Qaeda for 9/11 with $6 billion penalty in lawsuit - NY Daily News
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sure, then spread some peace instead of us.
No plans to starve our people.
LOL
Dont try and wriggle your way out of what you really think and believe like a little worm or maggot. You just exposed yourself and said:
"The thing is that your entire civilization was wiped off by none other than the Arabs.
They converted you to their religion, they gave you their alphabet, you pray toward their land, and you even lash yourself in the name of their own forefather."
You have just denied that Islam came from God, and have made the claim that it came from Arabs. What is the Arabic term for people like you again? kafir? monafeq?
You seem to have some sort of a reading mis-comprehension issue.
That's true:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Qādisiyyah
Weren't they Muslims? True, they did convert you to the religion they adhere to:
Muslim conquest of Persia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Don't you play toward their land? While you hate them more than anything else? Unlike what Islam instruct its followers to do.
Qibla - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Don't you lash yourselves in the name of Al-Hussain?
Mourning of Muharram - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Don't you bleed yourself to death over him?
Learn how to use analytical reading strategies then come back arguing with me.
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BS
we are the bad guys because we keep standing against them.they say Hezbuallah is a terrorist organization but israel is an angel from heaven.
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