Iran says long way remains to reach nuclear deal with P5+1

[Hack-Hook]

No problem and we don´t give our right to sanction. In case you did not notice it was iran who crawls towards us and begs to lift the sanctions. One hand washs the other hand. If you have nothing to offer you should not expect a deal.

you knew , and if these round of negotiation fail we always go back to our right of enriching uranium up to 99% and finishing Arak according to old plans and replacing all old Ir-1 Centrifuges with newer and more efficient Ir-8 designs .

when you guys started to add sanctions over sanctions we only had a dozen working centrifuges right now we had around 19000 guess the mathematics will tell you that the sanction were useless on this matters.

United state planned to destroy the revolutionary Cuba when they designed it's embargo right now they admitted they achieved nothing by that .

 

[MarkusS]

you knew , and if these round of negotiation fail we always go back to our right of enriching uranium up to 99% and finishing Arak according to old plans and replacing all old Ir-1 Centrifuges with newer and more efficient Ir-8 designs .

when you guys started to add sanctions over sanctions we only had a dozen working centrifuges right now we had around 19000 guess the mathematics will tell you that the sanction were useless on this matters.

United state planned to destroy the revolutionary Cuba when they designed it's embargo right now they admitted they achieved nothing by that .

The difference is that Cuba was never ruled from theocratic lunatics and also never sanctioned from Europe. The leadership of Cuba is human and rational. Iran is not.

The problem is, that Iran deserves to be a part of the world and to have an open economy. The window of opportunity is closing. If we don´t find a solution within the next three years, then we will have war.

I don´t want a war. It costs us much money and it will costs hundredthousands of your peoples life.

Iran will not be allowed to own nuclear weapons. Nobody cares about your nuclear power but there is zero trust in your leadership. They lie and can´t be trusted.

And the sanctions were never intended to stop the program. The sanctions exist to make the life of iranians harder. And thats what they do. Other actions are intended to slowing the iranian nuclear program down. Like StuxNet and the assasination program as well as sabotage. Which works quite well.

 

[Serpentine]

No problem and we don´t give our right to sanction. In case you did not notice it was iran who crawls towards us and begs to lift the sanctions. One hand washs the other hand. If you have nothing to offer you should not expect a deal.

I like how you use the word 'we' like you represent anything related to European policies. You are just a guy with free time on internet. Irony is, it's the European companies lining up to get to Iran one after another even before sanctions are lifted. No one begged anyone, it's a negotiation. If it was begging, it wouldn't last more than a year and Europe and U.S would reach what they want.

 

[MarkusS]

I like how you use the word 'we' like you represent anything related to European policies. You are just a guy with free time on internet. Irony is, it's the European companies lining up to get to Iran one after another even before sanctions are lifted. No one begged anyone, it's a negotiation. If it was begging, it wouldn't last more than a year and Europe and U.S would reach what they want.

I work for a corporation that would liek to do Business there. Unfortunatelly thats not the case yet since Iran is not business ready yet. I hope that improves soon.

And as i said. You have to bring something worth negotiating. So far Iran can offer nothing so i don´t see how things could change in near future.

 

[Hack-Hook]

The difference is that Cuba was never ruled from theocratic lunatics and also never sanctioned from Europe. The leadership of Cuba is human and rational. Iran is not.

The problem is, that Iran deserves to be a part of the world and to have an open economy. The window of opportunity is closing. If we don´t find a solution within the next three years, then we will have war.

I don´t want a war. It costs us much money and it will costs hundredthousands of your peoples life.

Iran will not be allowed to own nuclear weapons. Nobody cares about your nuclear power but there is zero trust in your leadership. They lie and can´t be trusted.

And the sanctions were never intended to stop the program. The sanctions exist to make the life of iranians harder. And thats what they do. Other actions are intended to slowing the iranian nuclear program down. Like StuxNet and the assasination program as well as sabotage. Which works quite well.

Lol ,well hope you are aware that by definition there is some different Between Sanction and Embargo

by the way their crime was far worse than ours they were communists .
let me enlighten you how was Cuba embargo .

On 26 February 2012 the Danish newspaper Berlingske reported that US authorities evidently have sufficient control over SWIFT to seize money being transferred between two EU countries (Denmark and Germany), since they have seized around US$26,000 which were being transferred from a Danish businessman to a German bank. The money was a payment for a batch of Cuban cigars previously imported to Germany by a German supplier. As justification for the seizure, the U.S. Treasury has stated that the Danish businessman had violated the United States embargo against Cuba.[27]

and about nuclear weapons , if we wanted WMD we already have made Tons of Chemical weapons and Biological one as there is no bacteria or Virus that we can't produce en mass or any nerve or blistering agent we cant produce . for the information we have one of the most advance Biochemical and Biological infrastructure on this side of the world . and you guys after years and years of moaning nonsense still failed to provide any evidence that we are producing WMD.

I work for a corporation that would liek to do Business there. Unfortunatelly thats not the case yet since Iran is not business ready yet. I hope that improves soon.

And as i said. You have to bring something worth negotiating. So far Iran can offer nothing so i don´t see how things could change in near future.

you are wrong , the problem is 5+1 didn't bring anything worth negotiating . if we were begging , then we have accepted all nonsense that some people over the net speculated in last years in the first month.

 

[MarkusS]

Lol ,well hope you are aware that by definition there is some different Between Sanction and Embargo

by the way their crime was far worse than ours they were communists .
let me enlighten you how was Cuba embargo .


and about nuclear weapons , if we wanted WMD we already have made Tons of Chemical weapons and Biological one as there is no bacteria or Virus that we can't produce en mass or any nerve or blistering agent we cant produce . for the information we have one of the most advance Biochemical and Biological infrastructure on this side of the world . and you guys after years and years of moaning nonsense still failed to provide any evidence that we are producing WMD.


you are wrong , the problem is 5+1 didn't bring anything worth negotiating . if we were begging , then we have accepted all nonsense that some people over the net speculated in last years in the first month.

We need no evidence. If we don´t want something, we simply bomb it into rubble. The problem with Iran is that you have reasonable people there on one side and then the crazy religious ones on the other side. In the end it doesn´t matter. Obama is a weak leader and once he is way a republican will be president. Then this should be dealed with unilateral.

 

[ResurgentIran]

We need no evidence. If we don´t want something, we simply bomb it into rubble. The problem with Iran is that you have reasonable people there on one side and then the crazy religious ones on the other side. In the end it doesn´t matter. Obama is a weak leader and once he is way a republican will be president. Then this should be dealed with unilateral.

We've heard these threats before and they bring nothing new that we have not heard since the last 10-15 years.
Even Bush, who surrounded himself with ideological neocons like Cheney, didnt do anything.

You may want to read up on something called the millenium 2002 wargame, and then you will understand why we are convinced that you wont even think about touching Iran.
To sum up, your empty threats have no effect.
If it was going to happen, it would have happened a long time ago. Accept it.

 

[MarkusS]

We've heard these threats before and they bring nothing new that we have not heard since the last 10-15 years.
Even Bush, who surrounded himself with ideological neocons like Cheney, didnt do anything.

You may want to read up on something called the millenium 2002 wargame, and then you will understand why we are convinced that you wont even think about touching Iran.
To sum up, your empty threats have no effect.
If it was going to happen, it would have happened a long time ago. Accept it.

If you see assinations against iranian scientists, sabotage with massive explosions and StuxNet as nothing so be it. I see the current strategy as perfetly fitting.

On one side we have the sanctions which press the iranian economy on the ground and make the life of iranians hard.
Then we have the new "oil warfare". With this low oil price iran is unable to pay its welfare programs
And then there is the cold served program consisting on assasinations, sabotage which creates uncertainity. Lets go it that way and see the results and then we can decide. If this fails we can still blow the entire plants into orbit. Its not like Iran could hurt us anyways.

 

[Hack-Hook]

We need no evidence. If we don´t want something, we simply bomb it into rubble. The problem with Iran is that you have reasonable people there on one side and then the crazy religious ones on the other side. In the end it doesn´t matter. Obama is a weak leader and once he is way a republican will be president. Then this should be dealed with unilateral.

Well its 20 years that we are waiting to be bombed into the rubble.

If you see assinations against iranian scientists, sabotage with massive explosions and StuxNet as nothing so be it. I see the current strategy as perfetly fitting.

On one side we have the sanctions which press the iranian economy on the ground and make the life of iranians hard.
Then we have the new "oil warfare". With this low oil price iran is unable to pay its welfare programs
And then there is the cold served program consisting on assasinations, sabotage which creates uncertainity. Lets go it that way and see the results and then we can decide. If this fails we can still blow the entire plants into orbit. Its not like Iran could hurt us anyways.

Well just let me tell you one thing at the time of Iran Iraq war all the income of government was 6 milliard $ which half of it was spent on the war and another half was spent in the country.

 

[MarkusS]

Well its 20 years that we are waiting to be bombed into the rubble.


Well just let me tell you one thing at the time of Iran Iraq war all the income of government was 6 milliard $ which half of it was spent on the war and another half was spent in the country.

The difference is, for us its just a game. For you its about life. I think you would do much better if you become our partner.

 

[SOHEIL]

assinations ... assinations ... assinations ...

 

[Azeri440]

you knew , and if these round of negotiation fail we always go back to our right of enriching uranium up to 99% and finishing Arak according to old plans and replacing all old Ir-1 Centrifuges with newer and more efficient Ir-8 designs .

when you guys started to add sanctions over sanctions we only had a dozen working centrifuges right now we had around 19000 guess the mathematics will tell you that the sanction were useless on this matters.

United state planned to destroy the revolutionary Cuba when they designed it's embargo right now they admitted they achieved nothing by that .

the sanctions are more meant to cripple the economy rather than directly stopping the progress of nuclear program

 

[Hack-Hook]

The difference is, for us its just a game. For you its about life. I think you would do much better if you become our partner.

are you sure ?

 

[MarkusS]

are you sure ?

I think so. We have nothing against Iran. If you open your market and cooperate with us, then iran could become so much better.

Just look at tourism. You could be a tourism hotspot for european tourists. Iran is not far. We can snowboard at damavand, swim in persian gulf, visit persepolis. All this.

 

[raptor22]

If you see assinations against iranian scientists, sabotage with massive explosions and StuxNet as nothing so be it. I see the current strategy as perfetly fitting.

On one side we have the sanctions which press the iranian economy on the ground and make the life of iranians hard.
Then we have the new "oil warfare". With this low oil price iran is unable to pay its welfare programs
And then there is the cold served program consisting on assasinations, sabotage which creates uncertainity. Lets go it that way and see the results and then we can decide. If this fails we can still blow the entire plants into orbit. Its not like Iran could hurt us anyways.

You just described true nature of yours as a state sponsors of terrorism, that's why we wouldn't cave in to you and your plan.