Iran replies Modi's Balochistan Rant - PressTv expose India's Kashmir Violence

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

This the official map of Pakistan according to its government. It is the only one that it supported by the people.

We have no interest in becoming a minority in our own country. That would defeat the purpose of its existence.

This is a real matter of concern for China, and we vehemently oppose that, we support an united Pakistan

 

[dadeechi]

This is a real matter of concern for China, and we vehemently oppose that, we support an united Pakistan

Is that an excuse to station Chinese military in Pakistan?

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Is that an excuse to station Chinese military in Pakistan?

Since when we have army in Pakistan?

 

[dadeechi]

Since when we have army in Pakistan?

Pentagon Warns India Of China's Increasing Military Presence In Pakistan
14/05/2016 4:02 PM IST | Updated July 15, 2016 08:26

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  PTI

Erik Simonsen via Getty Images
Aerial view of the sun reflects on the Potomac River near the Pentagon
WASHINGTON -- China has increased defence capabilities and deployed more troops along the Indian border, the Pentagon has said, as it warned of increasing Chinese military presence including bases in various parts of the world, particularly Pakistan.


"We have noticed an increase in capability and force posture by the Chinese military in areas close to the border with India," Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for East Asia Abraham M Denmark told reporters during a news conference here after Pentagon submitted its annual 2016 report to the US Congress on 'Military and Security Developments Involving the People's Republic of China'.


However, Denmark said it is difficult to conclude on the real intention behind this.

"It is difficult to say how much of this is driven by internal considerations to maintain internal stability, and how much of it is an external consideration," he said in response to a question on China upgrading its military command in Tibet.


Referring to US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter's recent trip to India, Denmark said he had a very positive and productive visit.

"We're going to continue to enhance our bilateral engagement with India, not in the China context, but because India is an increasingly important player by themselves. And we are going to engage India because of its value," he said.


The Defence Department also warned of China's increasing military presence including bases in various parts of the world, in particular Pakistan - with which it has a "longstanding friendly relationship and similar strategic interests".

China's expanding international economic interests are increasing demands for the PLA Navy (PLAN) to operate in more distant seas to protect Chinese citizens, investments, and critical sea lines of communication, it said.

"China most likely will seek to establish additional naval logistics hubs in countries with which it has a longstanding friendly relationship and similar strategic interests, such as Pakistan, and a precedent for hosting foreign militaries," the report said.

The Pentagon in its report expressed its concerns about Chinese military buildup near the Indian border.

"Tensions remain along disputed portions of the Sino- Indian border, where both sides patrol with armed forces.

"After a five-day military standoff in September 2015 at Burtse in Northern Ladakh, China and India held a senior-level flag-officer meeting, agreed to maintain peace, and retreated to positions mutually acceptable to both sides," it said.

The Pentagon said tensions remain with India along their shared 4,057-km border over Arunachal Pradesh (which China asserts is part of Tibet and, therefore, of China), and over the Askai Chin region at the western end of the Tibetan Plateau, despite increases in China-India political and economic relations

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/0...ia-of-chinas-increasing-military-presence-in/

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Pentagon Warns India Of China's Increasing Military Presence In Pakistan
14/05/2016 4:02 PM IST | Updated July 15, 2016 08:26

• 
  PTI

Erik Simonsen via Getty Images
Aerial view of the sun reflects on the Potomac River near the Pentagon
WASHINGTON -- China has increased defence capabilities and deployed more troops along the Indian border, the Pentagon has said, as it warned of increasing Chinese military presence including bases in various parts of the world, particularly Pakistan.


"We have noticed an increase in capability and force posture by the Chinese military in areas close to the border with India," Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for East Asia Abraham M Denmark told reporters during a news conference here after Pentagon submitted its annual 2016 report to the US Congress on 'Military and Security Developments Involving the People's Republic of China'.


However, Denmark said it is difficult to conclude on the real intention behind this.

"It is difficult to say how much of this is driven by internal considerations to maintain internal stability, and how much of it is an external consideration," he said in response to a question on China upgrading its military command in Tibet.


Referring to US Defence Secretary Ashton Carter's recent trip to India, Denmark said he had a very positive and productive visit.

"We're going to continue to enhance our bilateral engagement with India, not in the China context, but because India is an increasingly important player by themselves. And we are going to engage India because of its value," he said.


The Defence Department also warned of China's increasing military presence including bases in various parts of the world, in particular Pakistan - with which it has a "longstanding friendly relationship and similar strategic interests".

China's expanding international economic interests are increasing demands for the PLA Navy (PLAN) to operate in more distant seas to protect Chinese citizens, investments, and critical sea lines of communication, it said.

"China most likely will seek to establish additional naval logistics hubs in countries with which it has a longstanding friendly relationship and similar strategic interests, such as Pakistan, and a precedent for hosting foreign militaries," the report said.

The Pentagon in its report expressed its concerns about Chinese military buildup near the Indian border.

"Tensions remain along disputed portions of the Sino- Indian border, where both sides patrol with armed forces.

"After a five-day military standoff in September 2015 at Burtse in Northern Ladakh, China and India held a senior-level flag-officer meeting, agreed to maintain peace, and retreated to positions mutually acceptable to both sides," it said.

The Pentagon said tensions remain with India along their shared 4,057-km border over Arunachal Pradesh (which China asserts is part of Tibet and, therefore, of China), and over the Askai Chin region at the western end of the Tibetan Plateau, despite increases in China-India political and economic relations

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/0...ia-of-chinas-increasing-military-presence-in/

India don't have any intelligent and still rely on US to get information over it own neighbor?

 

[dadeechi]

India don't have any intelligent and still rely on US to get information over it own neighbor?

Yes. India depends on intelligence agencies of other major countries. India intelligence does not have the same capabilities and deep reach. Even for 26/11 attacks India got most of the information from the West but unfortunately after the attack.

Mumbai 26/11 Attacks Could Have Been Averted By Intelligence-Sharing Between US, UK, India: Report
By Avaneesh Pandey @avaneeshp88 On 12/23/14 AT 12:50 AM


Better coordination among the intelligence agencies of India, the U.S. and UK could have averted the November 2008 terrorist attacks in the Indian city of Mumbai, which killed over 160 people, a joint investigation conducted by The New York Times, ProPublica and PBS revealed. The report, published Sunday, is based on information obtained from classified documents leaked by Edward Snowden, a former NSA contractor.

According to the investigation, intelligence agencies from the three nations had been monitoring the activities of several operatives of Lashkar-e-Taiba -- the Pakistan-based militant group that carried out the attacks over a span of three days in Mumbai -- since the beginning of 2008. However, the agencies failed to piece together disparate pieces of intelligence and share information until after the attacks had started, according to the report.


“No one put together the whole picture,” Shivshankar Menon, India’s former national security advisor, told the Times. “Not the Americans, not the Brits, not the Indians.”

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  A reporter talks on her phone as smoke is seen coming from Taj Hotel in Mumbai November 27, 2008. Photo: Reuters/Arko Datta
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  Tourists sit in front of the Taj Mahal hotel, which was one of the targets of the November 26, 2008 attacks, in Mumbai November 26, 2014. Photo: Reuters/Shailesh Andrade
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  A reporter talks on her phone as smoke is seen coming from Taj Hotel in Mumbai November 27, 2008. Photo: Reuters/Arko Datta
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  Tourists sit in front of the Taj Mahal hotel, which was one of the targets of the November 26, 2008 attacks, in Mumbai November 26, 2014. Photo: Reuters/Shailesh Andrade

The report claimed that, by September 2008, the UK’s GCHQ -- the country’s intelligence agency -- had been monitoring the online activities of Zarrar Shah, believed to be the technology and communications chief of Lashkar-e-Taiba. Indian agencies were also reportedly keeping an eye on Shah’s digital networks.

“Shah and his associates conducted reconnaissance and research using Google Earth and Wikimapia. Analysis of Zarrar Shah’s viewing habits … yielded several locations in Mumbai well before the attacks occurred and showed operations planning for initial entry points into the Taj Hotel,” according to an NSA document reportedly leaked by Snowden.


The attacks, which lasted about three days before all the militants were either killed or arrested, targeted several high-profile locations in the city, including the main railway terminus, the iconic Taj Mahal Palace hotel near the Gateway of India monument, another five-star hotel, and a Jewish synagogue and cultural center run by an American rabbi and his wife, both of whom were among those killed in the attacks.

The report also stated that, during this time, U.S. agencies had independently picked up signs of a possible terror plot based on information obtained from the wife of one of the militants, David Coleman Headley, who was involved in preparations ahead of the attack. U.S. officials had also warned Indian agencies of “Lashkar threats in Mumbai,” the Times reported.

According to the report, the intelligence agencies of the three countries had enough information among them to prevent the attacks in Mumbai. However, they failed to piece together the complete picture, making it one of the "most devastating near-misses in the history of spycraft."

“They either weren’t looking or didn’t understand what it all meant … there was a lot more noise than signal,” an unnamed U.S. official told the Times


http://www.ibtimes.com/

 

[cloud4000]

Just as I (and others) predicted earlier, this was a bad move by Modi. Iran indeed seems thrilled to have heard his comments on Balochistan.

A major speech given on India's Independence Day in which he mentions Balochistan. A speech that was probably vetted by the Ministry of External Affairs for its content. I presume Iran was notified by India, in advance, that he would mention Balochistan. Iran did not seem to have a problem with it. If it did, would Modi mention it?

Iran knows full well what is India is up to in Balochistan. Not only through it own intelligence network, but burnished with intelligence by Pakistan, as well. And if India has been destabilizing Balochistan for years, as Pakistan claims, it didn't stop Iran from agreeing to develop its port with India. Even the capture of Yadav, who was entering Balochistan from Iran, didn't put the break on India-Iran relations.

India is acting desperate and broken, As the Indian Foreign Minister, says "This is foreign policy of a novice: Salman Khurshid on PM Modi’s Balochistan, Azad Kashmir remarks"

Source: https://defence.pk/threads/this-is-foreign-policy-of-a-novice-salman-khurshid-on-pm-modi’s-balochistan-azad-kashmir-remarks.444722/#ixzz4Hv4CgsMx

In others words, "Yeh ek anari ki foreign policy hai," Salman Khurshid said.

Salman Khurshid? Please...he's a member of Congress, whose foreign policy was moribund as the government he was a member of. His words have no weight. Hope he enjoys walking in the wilderness while Congress tries desperately to turn Rahul Gandhi into a leader.

Too bad, though. Pakistan had a chance for talks when Congress was in power, but now you have to deal with Modi instead. And Modi not wanting to talk Pakistan is the new normal. You might as well get use to it.

 

[LA se Karachi]

A major speech given on India's Independence Day in which he mentions Balochistan. A speech that was probably vetted by the Ministry of External Affairs for its content. I presume Iran was notified by India, in advance, that he would mention Balochistan. Iran did not seem to have a problem with it. If it did, would Modi mention it?

Iran knows full well what is India is up to in Balochistan. Not only through it own intelligence network, but burnished with intelligence by Pakistan, as well. And if India has been destabilizing Balochistan for years, as Pakistan claims, it didn't stop Iran from agreeing to develop its port with India. Even the capture of Yadav, who was entering Balochistan from Iran, didn't put the break on India-Iran relations.

I never said that India-Iran relations were going to be "put on break". Only that Modi mentioning "violations" in Balochistan is not something Iran must be very happy about. I'm glad he did though.

 

[T-Rex]

indian dream for Chabahar looks to be moving away.....

From actions on the ground, it looks like india had taken a calculated decision to fully dedicate itself as US led terror orchestrator and operator. And in that line, preparing to orchestrate terror network in Sistan Baluchistan in Iran and Baluchistan in Pakistan. US has immediate project for destabilizing south and central asia so that Chinese CPEC (OBOR), Russian Eurasian integration and recent Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran north-south corridor can be disrupted. india with vast experience in creating and operating terror network became natural choice for US crime odyssey.

Pakistan should refresh Iranian, Chinese and Russian leadership on what is coming. If Pakistan and Iran become victim, China and Russia will be next in line to receive US led, house of saud financed and india operated, terror salvo. It is therefore Chinese and Russian best interest to understand real enemy inside SCO is india and provide intel, finance, and defense capabilities to Pakistan and Iran to hold the line.

This is exactly the game plan but CIA and RAW have mechanism in place that suppresses this simple truth and the mechanism is nothing but inciting unrest in Chechnya and Xinjiang with the help of FETO in Turkey.

Iran's PressTV broadcasts a news item critical of India on Kashmir, as a result India's relationship with Iran will fall apart, the port deal will be cancelled, and no more Iranian oil imports.

Some people here are making big leaps.

"A small step for man, giant leap for mankind." Everything does not start with a big bang, most demolitions start with a tiny crack!

Since when we have army in Pakistan?

If the pinoys claim something it has to be 'undeniable'! They are soooooooooooooooooooo credible!

 

[Jaanbaz]

Indians know that CPEC is just a side show. The real aim is greater Pakistan.


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I would rather have Mogadishu in Pakistan then Kabul. Stop posting bullshit idiot.

Since when we have army in Pakistan?

Apparently Chinese engineers are feared in India, imagine how much they fear Chinese soldiers.

 

[Meengla]

How would Iran like an independent Baluchistan next door to its Sistan Baluchistan region?

It would be an Iranian nightmare! And a strategic blow to China. These two points should be clear.

Just like Turkey knew in 2003 that the invasion of Iraq could cause destabilization and could eventually lead to a sovereign Kurdistan, Iran knows that an Independent Baluchistan would be nothing but a very convenient base by its enemies to target Iran--no names being mentioned here!

Iran should know that India's main interests in Iran lies in targeting Pakistan. Iran should milk the Indian investmenst but keep things on tight leash when it comes to strategic matters.

 

[dadeechi]

If the pinoys claim something it has to be 'undeniable'! They are soooooooooooooooooooo credible!

I have already posted the source here. It is not even Indian one as people claim that Indian sources are not neutral. Now I am waiting for someone to come here and say that US sources are just propaganda. It is almost impossible to debate with such people as nothing is credible for them except whatever was made up in their mind.

https://defence.pk/threads/iran-rep...s-kashmir-violence.445137/page-5#post-8595834

Apparently Chinese engineers are feared in India, imagine how much they fear Chinese soldiers.

Did you read this?

WASHINGTON -- China has increased defence capabilities and deployed more troops along the Indian border, the Pentagon has said, as it warned of increasing Chinese military presence including bases in various parts of the world, particularly Pakistan.


"We have noticed an increase in capability and force posture by the Chinese military in areas close to the border with India," Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for East Asia Abraham M Denmark told reporters during a news conference here after Pentagon submitted its annual 2016 report to the US Congress on 'Military and Security Developments Involving the People's Republic of China'.

https://defence.pk/threads/iran-rep...s-kashmir-violence.445137/page-5#post-8595834

 

[Kaniska]

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/08/16/480240/Iran-India-gas-exports-Farzad-B-Iraq

Iran is offering a gas field which is supposed to be finanalized in Sep....Is it not more critical for India to have a improving trade relation with Iran than worrying about Iran thinks about Kashmir?

 

[Pulsar]

I see 20 or so paid yahoos protesting! Lol!

I can get a thousand idiots for Rs 500 each plus free biryani at the end of the protest!

I see 20 or so paid yahoos protesting! Lol!

I can get a thousand idiots for Rs 500 each plus free biryani at the end of the protest!

I see 20 or so paid yahoos protesting! Lol!

I can get a thousand idiots for Rs 500 each plus free biryani at the end of the protest!
You guys are funny!

 

[X-2.]

indian dream for Chabahar looks to be moving away.....

From actions on the ground, it looks like india had taken a calculated decision to fully dedicate itself as US led terror orchestrator and operator. And in that line, preparing to orchestrate terror network in Sistan Baluchistan in Iran and Baluchistan in Pakistan. US has immediate project for destabilizing south and central asia so that Chinese CPEC (OBOR), Russian Eurasian integration and recent Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran north-south corridor can be disrupted. india with vast experience in creating and operating terror network became natural choice for US crime odyssey.

Pakistan should refresh Iranian, Chinese and Russian leadership on what is coming. If Pakistan and Iran become victim, China and Russia will be next in line to receive US led, house of saud financed and india operated, terror salvo. It is therefore Chinese and Russian best interest to understand real enemy inside SCO is india and provide intel, finance, and defense capabilities to Pakistan and Iran to hold the line.

Project Chahbar is dead .. iran will use cpec to operate some central Asian countries