Iran ‘ready’ for joint anti-terror operation after deadly ambush in Pakistan

[lastofthepatriots]

To be honest bro we have tolerated stuff like this too long. I thought a thread which was based on the event where Pakistani troops lost their lives would attract sympathetic posts from Iranian posters, but how wrong I was.
Pakistan this, two-faced this, we need to strike in Pakistan, seriously?

Iranians are very two faced like banniyas. It is in their nature and this I have experienced personally. They are sophisticated in deception unlike Afghans who will tell you openly to your face that they hate you. I generally keep it polite with them but never fall for their bullshit.

 

[waz]

Iranians are very two faced like banniyas. It is in their nature and this I have experienced personally. They are sophisticated in deception unlike Afghans who will tell you openly to your face that they hate you. I generally keep it polite with them but never fall for their bullshit.

I mean my experiences are different and I have come across mostly nice folks, although these things do happen. But anyway let's just look at the posts . Thanks for the input.

 

[ای ایران]

So you think people dying is right i.e. that Pakistan "tastes its own medicine"?
You then cite the Americans, you know the same dudes who want your country wiped off the face of the map. So Trump's correct on Iran is he?

It's not about right or wrong it's just reality.

Iran has no conflict with Pakistan but has become tired of their two faced and inept character.

The Iranian viewpoint is broadly as follows:

1) Pakistan is too poor and unstable to commit to establishing law, order and development in areas bordering Iran which has resulted in an abdication of the state in these places.
2) The dereliction of government duty and absence of an effective police and justice system has opened up space to criminal safe havens close to the Iran border, enabling havens for traffickers and terrorist groups to exist within Pakistani territory.
3) The absence of an educational infrastructure on Pakistani territory near Iran has enabled the proliferation of seminaries operating under the guise of religion but indoctrinating boys and young men in extremist beliefs that result in readily available recruitment for Taliban and other terrorist movements.
4) Pakistan is an untrustworthy and weak country that succumbs easily to foreign bribes from states hostile towards Iran like Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the US who have vested interests in helping prop-up anti-Iran groups from within these ungoverned spaces in Pakistan and take full advantage of this by bribing Pakistan to look the other way.
5) There is suspicion in Iran that some Pakistani religious organisations that operate seminaries in your Balouchestan and are known to have been long time supporters of the Afghan Taliban have links to Saudi Arabia and anti-Iran groups and give them support, with the full knowledge of your intelligence services which turns a blind eye.
6) Iran has signed many MoU's with Pakistan for active border security cooperation over the past 10 to 15 years, but nothing has come of them. There is no expectation left in Iran that future understandings will prove different from those made in the past.

These cover most of what the Iranian view has been for a very long time regarding it's security issue with the Pakistan border.

It is for those reasons that Pakistan is the only country bordering Iran that we have built a concrete wall with where it has been possible to do so. The vision during the Ahmadinejad era was that the entire border with Pakistan would have a 900km long concrete wall along it. Iran also has an unofficial shoot-first policy when it comes to the Pakistan border. This situation exists for a reason. It is not something that Iran takes lightly.

Your newspapers often report things like the below for example.

Iranian guards kill two for illegal border crossing bid
November 12, 2018

GWADAR: Two Pakistani nationals were killed and four sustained injuries after Iranian border guards opened fire when they were trying to illegally cross the Pak-Iran border along the Prom area of Balochistan’s Panjgur district on Sunday.

According to the Levies officials, a pick-up carrying seven people was trying to cross the border when the Iranian border guards opened fire on it.

The people travelling in the vehicle hailed from different areas in Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Two of them were killed and four suffered injuries. The only person in the vehicle who remained unhurt was its driver, they added.

They said the seven people were trying to cross the border without legal documents.

The bodies and the injured were taken to the district hospital.

The deceased were identified as Abdullah from Kech district of Balochistan and Nawaz from Mohmand tribal district of KP.

 

[Awan68]

Joint Operation both In Iranian and Pakistani region by Iran-Pak Army is required! We hosted American Seals, CIA and Mercs in Pakistan for long during Pro Zionist Musharraf, Zardari and Nawaz Govt.

Yeh wali peeni hai.

 

[Arsalan 345]

It's not about right or wrong it's just reality.

Iran has no conflict with Pakistan but has become tired of their two faced and inept character.

The Iranian viewpoint is broadly as follows:

1) Pakistan is too poor and unstable to commit to establishing law, order and development in areas bordering Iran which has resulted in an abdication of the state in these places.
2) The dereliction of government duty and absence of an effective police and justice system has opened up space to criminal safe havens close to the Iran border, enabling havens for traffickers and terrorist groups to exist within Pakistani territory.
3) The absence of an educational infrastructure on Pakistani territory near Iran has enabled the proliferation of seminaries operating under the guise of religion but indoctrinating boys and young men in extremist beliefs that result in readily available recruitment for Taliban and other terrorist movements.
4) Pakistan is an untrustworthy and weak country that succumbs easily to foreign bribes from states hostile towards Iran like Saudi Arabia, the UAE and the US who have vested interests in helping prop-up anti-Iran groups from within these ungoverned spaces in Pakistan and take full advantage of this by bribing Pakistan to look the other way.
5) There is suspicion in Iran that some Pakistani religious organisations that operate seminaries in your Balouchestan and are known to have been long time supporters of the Afghan Taliban have links to Saudi Arabia and anti-Iran groups and give them support, with the full knowledge of your intelligence services which turns a blind eye.
6) Iran has signed many MoU's with Pakistan for active border security cooperation over the past 10 to 15 years, but nothing has come of them. There is no expectation left in Iran that future understandings will prove different from those made in the past.

These cover most of what the Iranian view has been for a very long time regarding it's security issue with the Pakistan border.

It is for those reasons that Pakistan is the only country bordering Iran that we have built a concrete wall with where it has been possible to do so. The vision during the Ahmadinejad era was that the entire border with Pakistan would have a 900km long concrete wall along it. Iran also has an unofficial shoot-first policy when it comes to the Pakistan border. This situation exists for a reason. It is not something that Iran takes lightly.

Your newspapers often report things like the below for example.

Iranian guards kill two for illegal border crossing bid
November 12, 2018

GWADAR: Two Pakistani nationals were killed and four sustained injuries after Iranian border guards opened fire when they were trying to illegally cross the Pak-Iran border along the Prom area of Balochistan’s Panjgur district on Sunday.

According to the Levies officials, a pick-up carrying seven people was trying to cross the border when the Iranian border guards opened fire on it.

The people travelling in the vehicle hailed from different areas in Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa.

Two of them were killed and four suffered injuries. The only person in the vehicle who remained unhurt was its driver, they added.

They said the seven people were trying to cross the border without legal documents.

The bodies and the injured were taken to the district hospital.

The deceased were identified as Abdullah from Kech district of Balochistan and Nawaz from Mohmand tribal district of KP.

untrustworthy? concrete wall only on pakistani border? dude you just blamed everything on pakistan.you blamed us for proxies,ksa involvement,different groups everything. do you know what iran actually is? iran has created a mess in middle east.everyone knows hezbollah.it's a terrorist organization operated by iran.you murdered political figures in lebanon using hizbollah.now come towards pakistan.do you know we have iranian passport of kulbhushan yadav? how can iran issue passport to a ex indian navy officer? your intelligence role is well known among circles in pakistan.uzair baloch was literally living in iran.these two people are involved in terrorism activities inside pakistan.when pakistan asked you about kulbhushan,you denied just to save your face.you guys are helping houtis,hezbollah and even invaded iran just to capture saddam.what do you think what people think about iran? there are sanctions on iran.your soldiers was dragged to our side like school kids and than you blamed us that there was something in the food that made them unconscious.this looks like a kid story.your people,your army talks about taking action on pakistani side and first shoot policy.do whatever you can but remember there are more illegal iranis in pakistan than illegal pakistanis in iran and we aren't iraq where you send your commandos to capture someone.dude all this muslim brotherhood will be gone in seconds if you ever try to cross the border.you call us weak.we aren't weak.

 

[padamchen]

I mean my experiences are different and I have come across mostly nice folks, although these things do happen. But anyway let's just look at the posts . Thanks for the input.

Thanks for that buddy.

Ties of blood are understandably strong and go long. I would not grudge Razi his feelings.

Or friends like @I.R.A fir that matter.

Cheers, Doc

 

[scythian500]

I'm honest guy who has no political or governmental power in Iran ( honestly , I'm just educated worker !! ) so I don't like playing with words :

This is simple , as far as Pakistan lets KSA/UAE/USA founded group to operate freely against Iran from Pakistan soil ( like taking our solders hostage in Pakistan ) , then we won't restrain Anti Pakistan elements .... Pakistan has to taste her own medicine ....

Did Iran attacked terrorists inside Pakistan using ballistic missiles last year? What is this:

وی به چند نمونه از عملیات‌های موشکی این نیرو بر روی مواضع دشمن هم اشاره کرد و گفت: «در جنوب شرق کشور عوامل ضد انقلاب 14 نفر از نیروهای سپاه را به شهادت رسانده بودند و نیروی زمینی سپاه محل اختفای سرکرده این گروهک را رصد کرده بود که دو خانه در فاصله 70 کیلومتری از مرز ایران در یک روستا و کنار مسجد واقع شده بود. موشک‌های ما برای برد 250 تا 300 کیلومتری ساخته شده بود؛ لذا بر اساس تعهدی که داده بودیم، برد موشک را تنظیم و فقط آن دو خانه را منهدم و نفرات آنجا را به درک واصل کردیم و هیچ خسارتی به روستا و مسجد آن وارد نشد.»
http://www.ion.ir/news/418460/
https://af.sputniknews.com/world/201810162766531-پاسداران-ایران-راکت/
@haman10 @VEVAK @SOHEIL @TheImmortal

 

[Winchester]

This was launched from the Iranian side with the full knowledge of the Iranian State. This will be paid back with interest though.

Their drone was shot down to give them a message but it seems its not getting through. Pakistan showed remarkable patience even after the Kulbushan episode.

Iran is in full cahoots with the Indians vis-a-vis Balochistan.

 

[Safriz]

It's a no and a no.
Let Iran take care of their side of the fence and stay there.
We don't want irajoIra on our land.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This is amusing. Pakistan doesnt control their border areas with Iran. There is no infrastructure in those places bordering to the east of Sistan & Balouchestan. No decent roads, no courts, no police, no schools, no jobs, no clinics, people are uneducated and live in filthy conditions... Protesting to the Iranian ambassador is just a silly face saving exercise by Pakistan to hide their incompetence and two faced character. Iran has many times offered to strike at terrorists and criminals on their side of the border. But two faced and incompetent Pakistan does not want Iran to because we all know that Iran will find more than just criminals we will also find Taliban hiding there in Pakistani safe havens just like the US found and killed Osama Bin Laden living in a Pakistani safe house!


This!

Yes and Iranian Sistan-Baluchistan is like NYC or London.

Fact is that this whole region is sparsely inhabited.

Stop instigating Pakistanis like an Indian gholam.

This is simple , as far as Pakistan lets KSA/UAE/USA founded group to operate freely against Iran from Pakistan soil ( like taking our solders hostage in Pakistan ) , then we won't restrain Anti Pakistan elements .... Pakistan has to taste her own medicine ....

Any proof of this?

As far as I know, Iran has much more influence over Shias than Arabs will ever have over Sunnis in Pakistan.

We have Pakistanis fighting in Syria for Iranian militias after sneaking away from Karbala.

 

[I.R.A]

Thanks for that buddy.

Ties of blood are understandably strong and go long. I would not grudge Razi his feelings.

Or friends like @I.R.A fir that matter.

Cheers, Doc

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First thing .......betterment comes from accepting one's own fault. 70 years is a long period and any nation no matter how lazy and poor they are (excluding Pakistanis) would have been grateful for a region like Balochistan ......... but Pakistanis being Pakistanis they keep ignoring that region and let it go to waste with its resources and potential, in the process punishing the natives. Such a shame .......... 70 years and nothing concrete. Why Balochistan is and was so important for superpowers but not for Pakistan is beyond me. That region being vast should have been developed and populated, fast track from start.

Second thing ........ iran is a hypocrite country, cannot be trusted and shouldn't be trusted. Peace isn't in their agenda, and after reading iranians here on this forum I am very much clear they know nothing about Pakistan and Pakistanis .......... a clear evidence of how much and what they get told in iran about Pakistan or Pakistanis. For them Pakistan is poverty struck country full of beggars ......... I just wish someday they do try something nasty with Pakistan and we get this settled once and for all, clear and loud for all the gullible papus of Pakistan. But Pakistan is fond of being apologetic when it comes to dealing with backstabbers.

 

[padamchen]

I didn't get any notification for this tag.

First thing .......betterment comes from accepting one's own fault. 70 years is a long period and any nation no matter how lazy and poor they are (excluding Pakistanis) would have been grateful for a region like Balochistan ......... but Pakistanis being Pakistanis they keep ignoring that region and let it go to waste with its resources and potential, in the process punishing the natives. Such a shame .......... 70 years and nothing concrete. Why Balochistan is and was so important for superpowers but not for Pakistan is beyond me. That region being vast should have been developed and populated, fast track from start.

Second thing ........ iran is a hypocrite country, cannot be trusted and shouldn't be trusted. Peace isn't in their agenda, and after reading iranians here on this forum I am very much clear they know nothing about Pakistan and Pakistanis .......... a clear evidence of how much and what they get told in iran about Pakistan or Pakistanis. For them Pakistan is poverty struck country full of beggars ......... I just wish someday they do try something nasty with Pakistan and we get this settled once and for all, clear and loud for all the gullible papus of Pakistan. But Pakistan is fond of being apologetic when it comes to dealing with backstabbers.

I think it's all the kamjor and alien khoon floating around.

Be nice.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Tokhme khar]

Gents there is a problem on both sides. Outside agencies are creating problems. Let's hope we resolve this amicably. If Iran finds out sawdi/ yahudi wahabbi harami bullshit, then we will immediately act to crush it. Make no mistake, we kill without warning and death comes quick.

 

[I.R.A]

I think it's all the kamjor and alien khoon floating around.

Be nice.

Cheers, Doc

Colonial era hasn't ended yet. Nothing to do with khoon.

 

[padamchen]

Colonial era hasn't ended yet. Nothing to do with khoon.

It's everything to do with khoon.

The fact that you're sitting on their doorstep and threatening them is stark proof of that.

Cheers, Doc