Iran Ranks 6th in Nanotechnology Worldwide, Exceeding Japan

[Arminkh]

I respect this member,followed many of his posts,and learned things,maybe he should refrain yes from using some terms like "low IQ" to keep the debate cordial.



Every countries/empires in this world had their time of glory and decline.
Of course France will decline as other powers will emerge but will still have its place in the world.
Despite unfavorable economic policies during this term,France still remains the 6th economic power. (Or 5th,'thanks' to Brexit)

That is laughable to say we are relevant because of the EU....

We are a P5 member,have the biggest EEZ in this world,the second biggest diplomatic network in the world,a cultural power,one of the most visited nation in the world,we possess nuclear weapons,an independent military industry.... one of the strongest army in this world,having capabilities some countries can only dream of....among the leaders in innovation.....

France is admirated through the world because of its history,its architecture,its gastronomy,it's culture,its intellect,its diversity,its science,technology,its industry,its welfare system,its public services,its health services,its quality of life,way of life and I could continue....

A country of 66 million souls...

@mike2000 is back

Every country will have its place in the world unless it is annexed by another country which is an unlikely scenario nowadays. So you may want to define "place".

I don't mean any disrespect to France or any other nation. But as an observer and someone who has done extensive historical research as an amateur in the field, France is no longer the power it used to be even before WWII. You may have a thriving economy, independent military and etc but the fact is that you have lost your independent status in world politics. You no longer represent a pole in international affair and at best are a member of US camp, following their policies.

And like the process of rising into a world power rank, declining from that position won't happen over night. First you lose your place as an independent power, then you fall further behind as rest of the countries pass you by and finally you reach a point where you realize you no longer are relevant in world affairs. So don't name what you have today. You are like the child of that famous billionaire who has inherited everything you have today. Tell me how many of them do you think you can keep in next 2 centuries? For now, all I see are negative trends.

Mind you, Iran used to be the world's cradle of civilization and scientific progress for almost 5 centuries after it lost its position as a superpower. As I mentioned above, we developed Chemistry, Algebra, Accounting, Base 10 calculation and many other significant advances during the same period. But eventually we fell further an further behind to the point we couldn't even defend ourselves against European powers.

As you mentioned, every civilization has rise and falls. Catching a country at its down time and then concluding that its people are low IQ is as wrong as it gets. In another 2 or 3 centuries, future children of Iran and India may use similar terms for countries like France same way that your friend that you respect is using for Iran or India.

 

[Aramagedon]

@Serpentine

I didn't insult anyone why did you give me a warning?! Show more patience towards Iranian members.

I want Iranian unity to be remained in this forum otherwise I will create a thread about you in GHQ.

https://defence.pk/conversations/warning-insulted-other-member-nationality.10336

 

[Faravahar]

I expect this form of false argumentation from low IQ people. You are not a European descendant person, probably another Iranian or some Middle Easterner.

For low IQ people, everything needs to be explained in simplest terms and then also they fail to grasp the notion.

Iran is ahead of not a single Western European country, maybe you consider poor backward illiterate regions like Turquie as European but EU membership will never be granted to Turks, rest assured of that.

First. More than number of papers, what counts is citations.

But then, some people try to cheat their way through to the top by citing their own works too frequently. That is why we should discount self citations only to include nonself citations. If some author other than yourself cites your work, then it may be worth something. Another general rule, within same period and same discipline, the more nonself citations, the higher quality your work is generally considered to be.

Many people count citations per paper. But this too is problematic, because of self citations as mentioned before, but also because some very large but regressive countries can publish just one or two or handful of papers with very high citations. Their citations per paper ratio would be stupendous.

Better measure is to count nonself citations, that means we exclude ALL self citations for all papers from all years, for all disciplines, and divide it by the population, in millions. Nonself citations per million.

Let's say, Switzerland gets 83000 nonself citations in a year and India gets 125000 nonself citations in a year, but Swiss population remains at only 8,3 million and yet India's population is more than 1,2 billion!

Now, go to scimagojr.com, take the results of "Materials Science", for each of the years from 2010 to 2015, all 6 years, and include the populations of each countries in a spreadsheet column. You get the following results, from 2010 to 2015.


Not a surprise at all seeing European and Oriental countries always at the top. It's just Nature's law at work. No low IQ African, Middle Eastern, Hindou societies here. Probably world's most advanced and developed Hindou country is Mauritius
it's because of the Franco mauritians.

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You can complete same task for other disciplines, Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, Informatics and Computing, Materials Sciences of which one subdiscipline is Nanotechnology. Do not count Biosciences in the same bracket, they always lead to much higher citations and much higher international collaboration. Most biosciences studies are mere statistical trickery at work.




As explained already.

This is always, always the case with low IQ populations. Everything needs to be dumbed down and even then you peoples will fail to understand.

No Middle Easterners arabs or jews, turks or Iranians or whoever, Hindous or Africans or Pygmies or Bantous, or whoever, leads the world except in fake stats and invented or dubious category.

In every aspect of intellectually rigorous objective transparent achievement, Europeans and Orientals lead the world, always, consistently, across the board.

As I keep saying, high IQ helps.

Why is it that its always its low IQ people like this guy whom are obsessed with calling others low IQ?

The irony here is that even by his own selected ranking he posted regarding material science, Iran was ranked 13, ahead of many nation including European ones. This was achieved even when Iran was under the most severe sanctions in history.

Forgetting the fact Persians were once the centre of science in the world and were developing concepts such as algebra etc when your your kind were in caves, its a bit rich calling us low IQ. He even called jews low IQ Poor Einstein.