Iran protesters chanting ‘DEATH to Rouhani’ and raise slogans against Khamenei

[padamchen]

Well I would say then we are 100% agreed! We want a reduction of intervention in other countries externally and removal of restrictions and discrimination and accountable government, internally...

This is some Vilayat e Fakih doctrine?

Can you explain more about it please?

The Arabs seem greatly pained by it.

Cheers, Doc

 

[bozorgmehr]

Zatosht (AS) was a true prophet. The reason why Iranians accepted Islam without a second thought, was due to stunning similarities between Islam and their former religion. Iranians never became Muslims with force of swords, when Mongols attacked Iran despite their great army and strength Iranians remained Muslims and the irony Iranians forced Mongols to convert to Islam and Sunni Islam. Before Safavids empire Iranians were Sunnis not to mention.

Islam accepts Zartosht, greets to Zartosht and on the other completes that true but forged religion.

Is that what your mollah explained to you? Did he forget to tell you though why they chose 'without a second thought' to become slaves of others and have to learn a new language and then adopt a new religion, if it was 'stunningly' similar to their existing one? Nice story... now you can pull your head out and take a breath...

I have met plenty of Zartoshts in Iran, keep your delusions for yourself

What has this got to do with what you said before?

 

[padamchen]

Is that what your mollah explained to you? Did he forget to tell you though why they chose 'without a second thought' to become slaves of others and have to learn a new language and then adopt a new religion, if it was 'stunningly' similar to their existing one? Nice story... now you can pull your head out and take a breath...




What has this got to do with what you said before?

A thousand years of revisionism.

Which is why I have a difficult time discussing religion and religious imperialism with "some" Iranians compared to say Arabs, with whom it is pretty easy ...

Cheers, Doc

 

[bozorgmehr]

This is some Vilayat e Fakih doctrine?

Can you explain more about it please?

The Arabs seem greatly pained by it.

Cheers, Doc

No I was talking in general terms about the people's demands about the direction they would like to see the country follow. It's the opposite of Velayat Faghih.

 

[padamchen]

No I was talking in general terms about the people's demands about the direction they would like to see the country follow. It's the opposite of Velayat Faghih.

I understood that.

I was asking about what Velayat Faghih meant and entailed in terms of Iranian imperialism in the region and their involvement in most of the ME conflicts towards that end. And is there a sectarian tilt to it (might be treading on dangerous PDF ground here ...)

Cheers, Doc

 

[bozorgmehr]

I understood that.

I was asking about what Velayat Faghih meant and entailed in terms of Iranian imperialism in the region and their involvement in most of the ME conflicts towards that end. And is there a sectarian tilt to it (might be treading on dangerous PDF ground here ...)

Cheers, Doc

Got it! Well, yes, much of the foreign policy choices Iran has made have been driven by their very aggressive and uncompromising islamist ideology, at the helm of which sits the Vali-e Faghih. I see many parallels with the early Soviet Union when it saw itself as an ideological alternative to the world and a global force to be reckoned with, with all the pretensions of greatness and technological advances and the projection of imaginary power to prove the point. All this while paying a heavy price internally and finally imploding from within. The same thing is going on here on smaller scale.

 

[padamchen]

Got it! Well, yes, much of the foreign policy choices Iran has made have been driven by their very aggressive and uncompromising islamist ideology, at the helm of which sits the Vali-e Faghih. I see many parallels with the early Soviet Union when it saw itself as an ideological alternative to the world and a global force to be reckoned with, with all the pretensions of greatness and technological advances and the projection of imaginary power to prove the point. All this while paying a heavy price internally and finally imploding from within. The same thing is going on here on smaller scale.

Bro you do realize that regardless of your internal differences with guys like Mohammad and their type here, Iran is surrounded by hostile states? Who see both the pan Persian nationalists as well as the Muslim hardliners as the enemy.

Hostile Muslim states.

Would it be wrong to understand that currently Turkey is the only major Islamic military power that you guys are not really at war with (soft war)?

In such a situation, maybe taking the war to them (those hostile to you) is not such a bad idea?

Just saying ...

Cheers, Doc

 

[500]

parasites

Welf parasites are actually main source of Khamenaist regime support.

Did you know that before Islam came into Iran, we , Zoroastrians, had hijab already?

Probably some alternative history.

 

[The SC]

Well, let's not worry about extremely hard to detects facets for a second. Why don't they stop the most widespread, the most obvious and the most flagrantly egregious cases to start with. Nobody is gonna come to the streets and ask for regime change, if a kid manages to beat the system once in a blue moon. Your false equivalences are nonsense! There is 0 comparison between the breadth and depth of corruption in the middle eastern countries and the West.

These are real equivalences,, you need more knowledge to recognise them as well as the facets and levels.. what about, India, China and most of Asia.. France is known to be corrupt internally as well as externally, cases of corruption up to the parliament in England, huge cases in Canada and the US involving the international mafia groups and politicians on the local, regional, state and federal levels..and what do you know about corruption in Africa and South America.. You like to single out the middle east in the midst for your personal reasons.. you are showing too much ignorance here..with arrogance on top of it and getting personal..you better learn how to conduct a decent discussion than ranting with empty personal opinions..

 

[hussain0216]

No please educate me man.

About the religion you guys gave up a thousand years ago. And started calling Ahura Mazda now Allah. Yet spent the better part of the past 600 years trying to mould your version of the adopted (enforced) faith into as close as you could to your ancestral faith without actually calling it your ancestral faith, reading fom a new book, and calling your one true God by a new name.

This you need to explain to an Athrvan who has continued to practice the ancestral faith unbroken for the past 8000 years ...

Over to you.

Cheers, Doc

The Iranians chose the will if God islam like hundreds of millions across the world..

you seem upset they dont follow your fire worship anymore

You are not too different to the butt hurt hindus who for some reason expect us to worship monkeys and idol's because our ancestors were dumb enough too

Conservative sources (more than just a few, and not all Western either) put the number of crypto-Zoroastrians (outwardly Muslim, pray to Ahura Mazda as Zoroastrians at home, with the holy Atash and Avesta - and not just on Nowruz) in your country at about 20 million.

The dream of run away

 

[padamchen]

The Iranians chose the will if God islam like hundreds of millions across the world..

you seem upset they dont follow your fire worship anymore

You are not too different to the butt hurt hindus who for some reason expect us to worship monkeys and idol's because our ancestors were dumb enough too



The dream of run away

Look kid, I have not disrespected Islam here.

Yet you seem to have no qualms about doing that to other faiths.

Muslims like @I.R.A would have me believe it's against your adopted faith to do so.

Cheers, Doc

 

[hussain0216]

Look kid, I have not disrespected Islam here.

Yet you seem to have no qualms about doing that to other faiths.

Muslims like @I.R.A would have me believe it's against your adopted faith to do so.

Cheers, Doc

Ive not insulted you

I understand the internal anger you guys must have

Its not different to the hindutva types who think all sub continent muslims should suddenly give up islam and go back to idols and cows

Islam is a worldwide religion, just because our forefathers believed in something dosent mean we have to follow the same stupid path

I responded to you for the same reason I would respond to a saffron hindu claiming 30% of Pakistanis would become hindu if the government wasent controlling us

 

[padamchen]

Ive not insulted you

I understand the internal anger you guys must have

Its not different to the hindutva types who think all sub continent muslims should suddenly give up islam and go back to idols and cows

Islam is a worldwide religion, just because our forefathers believed in something dosent mean we have to follow the same stupid path

I responded to you for the same reason I would respond to a saffron hindu claiming 30% of Pakistanis would become hindu if the government wasent controlling us

You continue to insult other faiths by calling them stupid.

Either its how you've been brought up at home, your social milieu.

Or it's something encouraged by your belief system.

I'm interested to know which it is.

Doesn't make any difference to me either way.

There's little a convert can say that can move the faith of one who comes from a bloodline that has practiced it's ancient faith unbroken for over 8000 years.

And is still around.

Will you be around for 2000?

Now THAT would be really interesting ....

Cheers, Doc

 

[Kopa Shamsu]

I have to say i am becoming a fan of him

https://twitter.com/x/status/947866447031816193

#support_Israel
#Free_Iran

btw where is Iran's nuclear site?can anyone provide any location?

 

[Hack-Hook]

Welf parasites are actually main source of Khamenaist regime support.


Probably some alternative history.

come on
please whatever you guys do, don't distort history any more .its already filed with enough lies.

and this is one of Iran naval commander

but yes you can ind women without hijab (usually with a hat or cape)

its the best description of women clothing of the time you can find
http://www.iranicaonline.org/articles/clothing-ii

Women’s clothing

Persian official monuments do not include representations of women; accordingly, little is known of their costume in the Median and Achaemenid periods. There are, however, a few contemporary representations in other contexts: on a textile from Pazyryk (Figure 56; Rudenko, pp. 296-97, pl. 177c), Greco-Persian seals (Figure 57, plate lxi; Gow, pl. X/1-6; Boardman, nos. 854, 879, 891-92, 964), ivory objects (plate lxii, plate lxiii; Amiet, pp. 173ff.; Dentzer, pp. 216ff.), the “Satrap sarcophagus” (plate lxiv; Kleemann, pp. 21-23), the monuments from Ergili in northwestern Anatolia (Figure 58; Akurgal; Bernard), and small metal vessels (Figure 59; Culican; Gow, p. 137 and n. 14). There are also a few notices by ancient writers. Particularly informative is Ctesias’s reference to the wearing of the sárapis by Parysatis, mother of Artaxerxes II (Hinz, 1969, p. 74, with reference), Herodotus’ testimony (9.109) that Xerxes’s daughter-in-law asked him to give her a robe that his wife had woven for him, and Quintus Curtius’s remark that Darius III “was girt woman-fashion” with “a golden belt” (3.3.17). Indeed, the representations of women show that they usually wore the pleated “court dress” and the voluminous “Ionic” chiton (Gow, p. 137; Dentzer, figs. 7-8; Dalton, pp. xxxiii-xxxiv, and nos. 89, 93, 103, 104). Occasionally, as on some of the Ergili sculptures and the “Satrap sarcophagus,” they wore an overgarment that, like the modern čādor, covered the head and neck (Figure 58, plate lxiv). The face, however, was always uncovered. The hair was often worn in a single plait at the back (plate lxv). By far the best available documentation of women’s dress from the Achaemenid period is the remnants of actual clothing found in the Pazyryk tombs (Rudenko, pp. 91-98), though in that distant region Achaemenid influence may have been considerably attenuated and probably reinterpreted. Excavated garments include a short cape or caftan (Figure 60) made of squirrel skin with the fur side inward and bordered with a band of black coltskin; it has narrow sleeves decorated with patterns of applied leather pieces (Rudenko, pp. 91-92). Another was a hood (plate lxvi) of a double thickness of fine leather covered in black coltskin and ornamented with rhomboid leather appliqués; it reached to the shoulders (Rudenko, pp. 96ff., pl. 65A). Finally, two pairs of boots were found. One had fine red-leather tops and vamps stitched to soles decorated on the underside with fantastic patterns. The other was soft, knee-high, with broad cuffs of leopardskin, leather vamps, and thick, rigid leather soles ornamented on the underside (Rudenko, pp. 93-96). This curious feature was practical because the wearer “sat with legs arranged so that the heels were turned out,” as is still customary in Central Asia (Rudenko, p. 96).

and honestly what you posted look a lot more man than woman and because of lack of beard I say a youth or Enoch .