Iran protesters chanting ‘DEATH to Rouhani’ and raise slogans against Khamenei

[AmirPatriot]

Truly enlightening to read the analysis of PDF's resident Saudi, Israeli, and British experts on Iran in this thread.


Wait who am I kidding

 

[Surenas]

I firmly believe that a secular state order is the best form of self governing for any nation. But what makes you believe secularism would work for a country like Iran with her unique and diverse demographic composition?

Because religion isn't the (only) factor which holds Iran together. Anyone familiar with Iranian society knows that Iranian nationalism is present among pretty much every Iranian ethnic minority.

To make things even more complicated, you have many neighboring countries who would immediately take advantage of your mistakes and your resources.

Iran is too strong to take advantage of, even in times of revolution. See how neighbouing countries tried to take advantage of the chaotic situation after the '79 revolution, which only united the people.

Turks, Kurds, Arabs, Balooch - why would these groups prefere to live in a Persian secular state if they easily could join their siblings on the other side of the border?

Because most of them consider themselves to be Iranian. And because a secular Iranian state has much to offer. Who could compete with a sanction-free Iran in the region? Perhaps Turkey being the only exception.

Why do you think that the post Islamic order in Iran would be based on Iranian nationalism rather than Persian nationalism? Why should non-Iranian groups like Arabs, Turks and Balooch people accept a pan-Iranian nationalism in the first place? These are questions I always wanted to ask secular Iranians/Persians. It'll be great if you care to answer my questions. I would appreciate it very much.

Iranian nationalism wouldn't necessarily be pan-Iranian nationalism. Look at the protests in Iran yesterday. You had Kurds chanting in Kermanshah "No to Gaza, no to Lebanon, our lives are only devoted to Iran". The same slogans were heard in balochi-majority city of Zahedan. Iranian nationalism wouldn't be Persian nationalism. We have had many non-Persian dynasties in our history that promoted Iranian nationalism. Like the Safavid Turks and Mongol Ilkhanates.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

is it anti regime protest or anti government? because the differences are huge and outside forces can use it to paint a false picture in Iran @mohammad45 @AmirPatriot

 

[mahatir]

I'm still not able to judge how serious these protests are but one thing is for sure: the current Iranian leadership is ready to hold on to power by any means necessary.

Two major events of the recent past are telling us that they could indeed succeed at the end of the day.

1. Syria. Even if you're only supported by 10 to 15 percent of the population...if you have decent support and wise allies you will gain the upper hand and survive. Assad is the living proof of this statement.

2. Turkey. Even if the whole Western world supports your protest like they did with Gezi wholeheartedly, you will still lose if you cannot win the hearts of the majority at home.

We should bear these facts in mind.

Millions of Iranians are willing to die for the current regime . The protests now are mainly about domestic issues and I don't think it will change the Iranian Islamic regime . Islam is what unites most Iran ethnic groups together and provided better rights for Azeri turks and Arabs compared to the nationalist Persian governments

 

[mohd497]

Simply wow! Iranian internal matter turned full time into shia hating f*** fest. What else can be expected of you sunnies. Shias of pakistan dont care about government in iran or iraq we just care about shrines of bibi zainab and hussain.

While you sunnies, arabs whatever you are worse then even kafirs. Supports whole heartedly your wine drinking filth kings and princess. Every day these people stray further away from Allah. Talk about influences. Not only does this arab sunni whatever alliance do every part of there force to save sheikdom. Why do these people even offer namaz when going to hell is biggest target.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Simply wow! Iranian internal matter turned full time into shia hating f*** fest. What else can be expected of you sunnies. Shias of pakistan dont care about government in iran or iraq we just care about shrines of bibi zainab and hussain.

While you sunnies, arabs whatever you are worse then even kafirs. Supports whole heartedly your wine drinking filth kings and princess. Every day these people stray further away from Allah. Talk about influences. Not only does this arab sunni whatever alliance do every part of there force to save sheikdom. Why do these people even offer namaz when going to hell is biggest target.

Nothing wrong with drinking

 

[Mohammed al-Faruqi]

Iran's land-grab policy in Ahwaz


The policy of illegally seizing land in Ahwaz is one of the most hallmark Iranian policies that have been in place for nine decades. It was initiated by Shah Reza Pahlavi and devolved in the Islamic republic. The document leaked in 2005, which was then known as Abtahi Document, named after the head of former Iranian president Mohammed Khatami's office, may be a testament to the colonial intentions of the Iranian authorities. These policies are aimed to expel Arabs from their lands. Upon leaking this document, April uprising erupted.

This document is one of the hundreds of documents that expose criminal schemes carried out by the Iranian authorities in Ahwaz. The document literally confirms the displacement of Arabs from their land and their replacement by Persians and other Iranian citizens, bringing the number of non-Arab settlers in Ahwaz within ten years three times the indigenous Arab people.

http://ahwazna.org/en-561_Irans_land_grab_policy_in_Ahwaz_.html

Iran accused of manipulating the Palestinian cause while hiding its colonialism against Ahwazi Arabs

Tehran regime is conducting itself in a manner that bears a striking similarity to the Israeli government that it indicts for crimes against the Palestinian people. Iran does this by forcibly expropriating the lands, farms and homes of the Ahwazi Arab people of the southwestern Iranian province of Khuzestan, and “giving” them to Persian settlers who are offered generous financial incentives by the regime to move to the area.

With Ahwazis denied basic rights, any compensation or any effective legal recourse against the regime’s decisions, the dispossessed Ahwazis are left destitute while ethnic Persian settlers seize their homes and lands in a manner not dissimilar from Israeli settlers in Palestine.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...-hiding-its-colonialism-against-ahwazi-arabs/

 

[AUz]

Your knowledge about Iran is even more fake than Bin Salmon's 'anti corruption' sham.

Hey what's happening in Iran right now?

I am seeing many twitter videos claiming protesters are chanting "We don't want Islamic Republic" or "death to Ayatullah" and "Not Gaza, not Lebanon, first Iran"...and things like that.

is there some sort of national uprising against the state/government/regime?

Please Iranian members, share your insights and clear up the situation..

 

[Surenas]

Iran's land-grab policy in Ahwaz


The policy of illegally seizing land in Ahwaz is one of the most hallmark Iranian policies that have been in place for nine decades. It was initiated by Shah Reza Pahlavi and devolved in the Islamic republic. The document leaked in 2005, which was then known as Abtahi Document, named after the head of former Iranian president Mohammed Khatami's office, may be a testament to the colonial intentions of the Iranian authorities. These policies are aimed to expel Arabs from their lands. Upon leaking this document, April uprising erupted.

This document is one of the hundreds of documents that expose criminal schemes carried out by the Iranian authorities in Ahwaz. The document literally confirms the displacement of Arabs from their land and their replacement by Persians and other Iranian citizens, bringing the number of non-Arab settlers in Ahwaz within ten years three times the indigenous Arab people.

http://ahwazna.org/en-561_Irans_land_grab_policy_in_Ahwaz_.html

Iran accused of manipulating the Palestinian cause while hiding its colonialism against Ahwazi Arabs

Tehran regime is conducting itself in a manner that bears a striking similarity to the Israeli government that it indicts for crimes against the Palestinian people. Iran does this by forcibly expropriating the lands, farms and homes of the Ahwazi Arab people of the southwestern Iranian province of Khuzestan, and “giving” them to Persian settlers who are offered generous financial incentives by the regime to move to the area.

With Ahwazis denied basic rights, any compensation or any effective legal recourse against the regime’s decisions, the dispossessed Ahwazis are left destitute while ethnic Persian settlers seize their homes and lands in a manner not dissimilar from Israeli settlers in Palestine.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...-hiding-its-colonialism-against-ahwazi-arabs/

Iran hasn't seized anything. These areas were part of a unified Iran long before Arabs settled in the place.

Why don't you worry about your government giving away your islands to Saudi.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Trumps tweet lol:

https://twitter.com/x/status/946949708915924994

 

[HAIDER]

Simply wow! Iranian internal matter turned full time into shia hating f*** fest. What else can be expected of you sunnies. Shias of pakistan dont care about government in iran or iraq we just care about shrines of bibi zainab and hussain.

While you sunnies, arabs whatever you are worse then even kafirs. Supports whole heartedly your wine drinking filth kings and princess. Every day these people stray further away from Allah. Talk about influences. Not only does this arab sunni whatever alliance do every part of there force to save sheikdom. Why do these people even offer namaz when going to hell is biggest target.

Seriously, Pakistani wahabi support Saudis or gulfi , i don t mind. Even though due to Wahabi ideology , Pakistan lost thousands of life due to continuous terrorism and billions of dollar lost, but ...... every day due to religious extremism we lost one or two soldiers daily , but............. can not change slave mentality .

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Trumps tweet lol:

https://twitter.com/x/status/946949708915924994

https://twitter.com/x/status/946906875462930432

Idiot.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Iran's land-grab policy in Ahwaz


The policy of illegally seizing land in Ahwaz is one of the most hallmark Iranian policies that have been in place for nine decades. It was initiated by Shah Reza Pahlavi and devolved in the Islamic republic. The document leaked in 2005, which was then known as Abtahi Document, named after the head of former Iranian president Mohammed Khatami's office, may be a testament to the colonial intentions of the Iranian authorities. These policies are aimed to expel Arabs from their lands. Upon leaking this document, April uprising erupted.

This document is one of the hundreds of documents that expose criminal schemes carried out by the Iranian authorities in Ahwaz. The document literally confirms the displacement of Arabs from their land and their replacement by Persians and other Iranian citizens, bringing the number of non-Arab settlers in Ahwaz within ten years three times the indigenous Arab people.

http://ahwazna.org/en-561_Irans_land_grab_policy_in_Ahwaz_.html

Iran accused of manipulating the Palestinian cause while hiding its colonialism against Ahwazi Arabs

Tehran regime is conducting itself in a manner that bears a striking similarity to the Israeli government that it indicts for crimes against the Palestinian people. Iran does this by forcibly expropriating the lands, farms and homes of the Ahwazi Arab people of the southwestern Iranian province of Khuzestan, and “giving” them to Persian settlers who are offered generous financial incentives by the regime to move to the area.

With Ahwazis denied basic rights, any compensation or any effective legal recourse against the regime’s decisions, the dispossessed Ahwazis are left destitute while ethnic Persian settlers seize their homes and lands in a manner not dissimilar from Israeli settlers in Palestine.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...-hiding-its-colonialism-against-ahwazi-arabs/

Ahvazi Arab is a term that recently after war developed these Arabs are mainly Arab tribes near border that war displaced them and then they began to grab the lands that belong to the natives of Ahvaz region.
and no Persian settlers were sent there in matter of fact those Arabs behavior made the living in those areas so unbearable that many Persians and lors who lived there for generation decided to migrate to areas in Fars , Isfahan and Tehran.(and I see it with my own eye as I born in Ahvaz My father , Grand Father and their fathers all were from Ahvaz but I had to leave there as living there was increasingly unbearable because the government become to lenient on those tribes so they become bold to the degree they started to grab other people lands and threaten to kill them with the number of their tribes , those guys still steal water and electricity and don't pay for the services they receive)

by the way Arab population of Iran is roughly around 2% of the all population which is around 1.5-2 million people and the city of Ahvaz alone have more population than that (city of Ahvaz and Area around it have population around 2300000) arabs were native of area near border Shadegan and Hoveizeh in Ahvaz they were 10% and after the war they migrated from border area to there but they still are less than 50%

 

[Śakra]

My brother, you have never traveled to Iran and did not live here. I have believe in elections of my country. I believe that I am safe and free to walk. I believe that I speak freely. You did not live in Iranian society to understand what I said. The people of Iran never want and can not live like you Israelis or Americans. Remember this as a citizen of Iran thank God I am so happy with my life. The only thing that annoying me is just the economic mismanagement and sanctions.

You've never been to Israel or Saudia or lived in Israeli/Saudian society yet you still judge both of them. Practice what you preach.

 

[taubin]

when was the last census done in iran ?

any iranian may please communicate