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Hey guys dont know if anyone has posted this video before but I have to say Iran has done a very good job of taking care of its defence needs. Iran made a smart 100mm AAA that can take down targets as far as 14km it is self loading and very accurate so without any further adu.
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Bro this is really good for Iran. Another step towards defences
 
Thanks again guys so far this is the only 100mm I have seen that has been automated.

Ill do some resurch and see what else I can find on this system.
 
This doesn't seem to be an effective air defence system, Its simply shooting rounds into the air?

Am i right in thinking that this will not be effective against Isreli Jets?

Perhaps itll be better suited to helicopters etc
 
This doesn't seem to be an effective air defence system, Its simply shooting rounds into the air?

Am i right in thinking that this will not be effective against Isreli Jets?

Perhaps itll be better suited to helicopters etc

Well for one thing you cant think of it like it is just one gun protecting an entire air field or nuclar power plant. This system is deployed with 5 to 10 systems working to gether. Of course there will be missises but they can be corrected in seconds. Even the Norigen Goal Keeper CIWS which is the worlds most advanced AAA system avaible has a miss fire correction system and its a 30mm gatling gun firing 3500 explosice warheads per min. Yes it would be far more effective against helicopters but I am sure if there is a radar guiding this system it could be far more effective
 
Well for one thing you cant think of it like it is just one gun protecting an entire air field or nuclar power plant. This system is deployed with 5 to 10 systems working to gether. Of course there will be missises but they can be corrected in seconds. Even the Norigen Goal Keeper CIWS which is the worlds most advanced AAA system avaible has a miss fire correction system and its a 30mm gatling gun firing 3500 explosice warheads per min. Yes it would be far more effective against helicopters but I am sure if there is a radar guiding this system it could be far more effective
Not to mention the Short-Range-Missile's and MANPADS like the Igla, plus there will be other man-operated AA which are manually operated.
 
Not to mention the Short-Range-Missile's and MANPADS like the Igla, plus there will be other man-operated AA which are manually operated.

Exactly not to also mention the new s-300 systems
 
The gun is essentially the Russian KS-19 a.k.a. the Chinese Type 59 or Type 55.

What's they've done is installed servomechanisms and an autoloader so that a large crew is no longer needed to operate the gun. Further. they've devised a more modern system of controlling the fire of serveral guns onto a target. Likely, they've adopted more modern round of ammu too. That boosts its usefullness, but it nonetheless remains a late 1940s gun, and a AD-concept long out of service in most countries

The KS-19 100 mm towed anti-aircraft gun was introduced into Russian service in the late 1940s It is no longer in service with the Russian Army, having been replaced by surface-to-air missiles, but it is still used by some countries.The KS-19 was also manufactured in China as the Type 59. The effectiveness of the 100 mm anti-aircraft gun KS-19 against modern aircraft is very limited.
100 mm anti-aircraft gun KS-19 (Russian Federation) - Jane's Land-Based Air Defence


The Type 59 single-100mm anti-aircraft artillery (AAA) gun is a Chinese copy of the Soviet KS-19, which was originally introduced in the late 1940s as the replacement for the wartime 85mm AAA guns. Although the KS-19 has already been replaced by the surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems in the Soviet Army since the 1980s, the Type 59 is still held in some AAA units in the PLA Air Force to provide medium-range air defence for high-value targets. The weapon has now been completely phased out of PLA service.
Type 59 100mm Towed Anti-Aircraft Artillery - SinoDefence.com

There is another thread on this new Iranian gun:

Pakistan Defence Forum > Military & World Affairs Watch > Military Forum > Iran produces smart anti-aircraft gun!

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Personally, Instead of developing 100mm slow-shot smart guns, I prefer a lessened calibre barrel with having capabilities of automatic radar tracking to shot down the targets with more precision hiting capabilities...

For exm, Germany, Gepard... Really Monster...
 
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I am glad you brought that up Penguin. I was looking at the video and saw some resemblence of the mussle and certain parts but was not completelysure if it was the same gun or not thanks for that.
 
Personally, Instead of developing 100mm slow-shot smart guns, I prefer a lessened calibre barrel with having capabilities of automatic radar tracking to shot down the targets with more precision hiting capabilities...

For exm, Germany, Gepard... Really Monster...
6DCKDJmnqBs[/media] - Gepard 1A2

I do agree with you on some of what you are saying. In this case comparing a 100mm with a 30mm. My only thing is that an aircraft can retun to base when hit by 30mm cannon if the aircarft and pilot know how to menover in the right way. Like in the Golf War and AC-130, A-10 and other aircrafts along with them managed to excape and return to fight another day. And the Iraqies had guns were also radar guided. But a well placed round form a 100mm and there is no way an emeny aircraft is returning to base. Espically if they are directed by radar or some other electroinic devise such as electro-optic in this case. And a range of 14km for the 100mm compared to just 2-4km with the 30mm. With the Iranian gun proper range (14km) could scrap an entire mission and the sociological damage it can have on an emeny if it starts to loose planes left and right before they even reach the target area can be quite devistating. Another reason a 100mm can be extremly usefull against crusie massiles taking them out well before they can come close to the target area.
I also noticed that the German gun can also be used in a secondary role of taking out light armored vechiles the same goes for the Iranian system but one Iranian 100mm gun could probably take 5 or 6 IFVs along with supporting mechnized infentry vechiles and personell.
 
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I am glad you brought that up Penguin. I was looking at the video and saw some resemblence of the mussle and certain parts but was not completelysure if it was the same gun or not thanks for that.

What the Iranians have done is add servomechanisms and an autoloader to the gun, which reduces the number of crew needed and allows for remote operation. They've also come up with system to control and lay several (4-6?) of these guns from a central position (presumably hooked up to radar or electrooptical target detections and tracking capabilities). Possibly, they also come up with more modern ammunition (Iranian-made proximity-fuzed ammunition). On the whole, that may improve the ability of these guns to deal with modern threats. However, there is a limit to possible performance improvements, which is why in the Russian and Chinese military at least, these guns (KS-19 and Type 59) have been replaced by surface to air missile systems. But that doesn't have to mean there isn't any role for such guns any more. See e.g. http://www.silobreaker.com/irans-new-antimissile-artillery-5_2262345285323718656
 
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I do agree with you on some of what you are saying. In this case comparing a 100mm with a 30mm. My only thing is that an aircraft can retun to base when hit by 30mm cannon if the aircarft and pilot know how to menover in the right way. Like in the Golf War and AC-130, A-10 and other aircrafts along with them managed to excape and return to fight another day. And the Iraqies had guns were also radar guided. But a well placed round form a 100mm and there is no way an emeny aircraft is returning to base. Espically if they are directed by radar or some other electroinic devise such as electro-optic in this case. And a range of 14km for the 100mm compared to just 2-4km with the 30mm. With the Iranian gun proper range (14km) could scrap an entire mission and the sociological damage it can have on an emeny if it starts to loose planes left and right before they even reach the target area can be quite devistating. Another reason a 100mm can be extremly usefull against crusie massiles taking them out well before they can come close to the target area.
I also noticed that the German gun can also be used in a secondary role of taking out light armored vechiles the same goes for the Iranian system but one Iranian 100mm gun could probably take 5 or 6 IFVs along with supporting mechnized infentry vechiles and personell.

The trouble with large caliber AAA is that due to the large round and the big mount, the rate of fire is low (compared to smaller calibers), which makes it hard to hit modern, fast and manouvrable, targets. Hence, the need to group these pieces. Which further limits their mobility. For similar reasons, the 57mm twin towed as well as tracked AAA are considered obsolete and are no longer in front line service (though in reserve sometimes).

The Flakpanzer Gepard twin 35mm is an example of a more modern SPAAG with a adequately high rate of fire (550 rpm per barrel) and nearly completely automated operation, with fast turret responses and full gun stabilization. It has a 3 man crew (driver, gunnenr, commander). Each 35mm gun has 320 rounds of ready-to-fire, anti-air ammunition and 20 rounds of anti-ground target ammunition. The guns are capable of firing a range of standardised 35mm ammunition, including the new Frangible Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot (FAPDS) rounds. These dart-like rounds have a muzzle velocity greater than 1,400m/s and carry no explosive (i.e. they are designed to penetrate armor), much in the same way a tank-round does.

By comparision, the ZSU-57/2 has a rate of fire a practical rate of fire between 100 and 140 rounds per minute per barrel. Muzzle velocity is 1,000 m/s. The vehicle carries 300 rounds of ammunition: 176 rounds in clips inside the turret, 72 rounds in clips in the hull front, and 52 separate (unclipped) rounds in special compartments under the turret floor. It is largely manually aimed. It has neither radar nor modern electro-optical sights, nor a fire-control computer.
The towed single barrel. It has a crew of 6 (commander, driver, gunner, sight adjuster and two loaders).57mm AZP S-60 AAA has a rate of fire of 105-120 rpm (cyclic) and 70 rpm (sustained). It Weighs 4,660 kg. In Iraq (Iran–Iraq War, Gulf War and Iraq War), the S-60, normally deployed in battalions of 36 guns, in defense of divisional headquarters and field artillery assets.

The rate of fire of a KS-19 gun is just 15 rounds per minute. It weighs 9,550 kg. The KS-19's onboard sights can be used to engage air targets, however increased accuracy was achieved if used in conjunction with a fire control radar such as the SON 9 (NATO Reporting name 'Fire Can')and PUAZO-6/19 director. Yes, The weapon can also be used against ground targets such as tanks, armoured vehicles, fortifications, bunkers and surface ships. But will it ever run into them? To the extent it is still used, this type of AAA is primarily used to defend high-value static targets, which are typically located well inland and away from any likely fronts. (You don't want to be caught towing this thing around in today's highly fluid battle zone, in which mobility is key)
 
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Again very well said Penguin but my question to you is: Can every nation afford the German SPAAA Gepard? YOu made an excelent point with out a doubt but not every nation can afford such a high tech system. Iran is a country along with a few others that can provide a cheap and affordable alternative to nations who would otherwise not be able to protect themselves from enemy aircrafts.
Also you brought up the point of mobility issues. What if it is supponse to be a fixed system and not ment to be moved like at airbases. for active defence. The German SPAAA is a very good system by its main perpous is to provide active anti-aircraft opperations while constantly on the move. Correct me if I am wrong but the Gepard helps protect mechnized infentry, tanks, and other elements of the army while they are moving from one location to another. So in a sence we are trying to compare two systems that may have similarities pryorities (which is to protect agianst air threats) but have very different roles to play when it comes to who and how to protect.

However if we were comparing the Gepard to the Russian Tungushka that would be a completly different story because of the fact that they are both SPAAA systems.
 
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