Iran Produces New Combat Choppers

[bozorgmehr]

You are too turkish to be on this forum , turks have in years been the best ally of israel in the region and after the incident of flotilla they didnt critisize Israel as a whole but "the current israelis goverment" so talking about f@king with somebody, turky has the worst record in the region.

Drop the aggressive attitude. This is not the place for it. Iran and Turkey can gain a lot by cooperating with one another. And that starts on an individual basis. However, nothing will be achieved by a rotten attitude.

There's no question that Iran engages in a certain amount of propaganda and misinformation, to throw the enemy off balance and confuse it, as it should. Even though it will never come close to level conducted against it by Israel and Western world. There's nothing wrong in acknowledging that. If you have information pertaining to a specific case, like the attack helicopters, then just post that... in a friendly manner.

 

[qaisar52]

Actually one of the member who may have some thing against Iran in his mind speak out and the Person who Thanked him so many time Waqqs 119 is well known in this fouram (Taliban ideology Sympathizer) who are against shia Muslim.

So I will request MOD to advise them with a warning that this forum is for Pakistan defence forum share their knowledge and contribute some thing good in this forum.

 

[mehrzad]

Drop the aggressive attitude. This is not the place for it. Iran and Turkey can gain a lot by cooperating with one another. And that starts on an individual basis. However, nothing will be achieved by a rotten attitude.

There's no question that Iran engages in a certain amount of propaganda and misinformation, to throw the enemy off balance and confuse it, as it should. Even though it will never come close to level conducted against it by Israel and Western world. There's nothing wrong in acknowledging that. If you have information pertaining to a specific case, like the attack helicopters, then just post that... in a friendly manner.

I dont believe you? to be friendly when some membes are so illogic and misinformed no matter what one write they will critise it brainlessly, and for you brother you have taken this internet-game too seriously .

 

[Pasban]

Mehrzad, I would agree with Bozorgmehr on this one. I am proud that my country, despite the odds stack against her, has managed to do this much. There are one too many limitations on Iran and any level of progress made by Iran as a result is an achievement. The aggressiveness is not needed though. It is in the best interests of all of Iran's neighbors to establish and better relations amongst each other.

 

[bozorgmehr]

I dont believe you? to be friendly when some membes are so illogic and misinformed no matter what one write they will critise it brainlessly, and for you brother you have taken this internet-game too seriously .

If some are presenting illogical nad misinformed views, then elucidate and inform them... for the benefit of all to see. But you gain nothing by being aggressively defensive and patronizing to others. If you want to have any kind of credibility with anybody, you need to be truthful with them. And that means not overlooking our own very obvious flaws and shortcomings. And that applies equally to the Americans, the Chinese and everybody else. So there's nothing shameful about it. WE ARE NOT PERFECT! And thank god for that...

And along the same line of thought, just because somebody criticizes anything related to Iran, it doesn't make that person our enemy. They may actually have a point, they may be factually wrong, misinformed, biased... all human qualities. No need to put an X on them and treat them with pure contempt from that point forward. Who knows, they may actually change their mind if you present them with a better solution to their dichotomy... also a human quality.

That is why in my opinon this kind of defensive/aggressive attitude is counterproductive and useless

 

[peacemaker10]

Pardon me for intrusion .. but what is the problem between Turkey and Iran?? I was thinking you all are allies. Sorry if i am asking obvious question but I am bit confused.

Other things aside I congratulate Iran for their progress. And yes denying US is a big deal and Iran doing it. Good or bad I don't know but it takes lots of guts to doing it ..

 

[pak-yes]

For ALLAH sake everybody stop fighting.

We have enough of Common Zionist Problem and here we are fighting among ourselves.Guys please don't fight.

 

[P.kid]

i agree with pak-yes. plz stop fighting. do you ever wonder how the british took over a country triple there own size? simple divide and conquer. Dont do the same mistake as the indians did. Join together and defeat any enemy of yours.

 

[deckingraj]

i agree with pak-yes. plz stop fighting. do you ever wonder how the british took over a country triple there own size? simple divide and conquer. Dont do the same mistake as the indians did. Join together and defeat any enemy of yours.

I am sorry but what mistake are you talking about??? Divide and Rule was a British phenomenon and people of South Asia(India, Pak and Bangladesh) fall victim to it...Having said it i do not see anything wrong in respect to Britishers...They had a mission and they used the weakness and high headedness of people like us....

Going through posts in this thread i can clearly see nothing has changed...Instead of congratulating Iran on their achievements(no matter how tiny it is) people are fighting.... May i ask

- How many countries in our region have the capacity to develop an Attack Helicopter considering these many restrictions???
- How many countries in the region can challenge US directly??

Answer them honestly and you will see what i am saying....Mind it my post does not mean that i agree with policies of Iran but what is good should be appreciated....

 

[P.kid]

I am sorry but what mistake are you talking about??? Divide and Rule was a British phenomenon and people of South Asia(India, Pak and Bangladesh) fall victim to it...Having said it i do not see anything wrong in respect to Britishers...They had a mission and they used the weakness and high headedness of people like us....

Going through posts in this thread i can clearly see nothing has changed...Instead of congratulating Iran on their achievements(no matter how tiny it is) people are fighting.... May i ask

- How many countries in our region have the capacity to develop an Attack Helicopter considering these many restrictions??? - How many countries in the region can challenge US directly??

Answer them honestly and you will see what i am saying....Mind it my post does not mean that i agree with policies of Iran but what is good should be appreciated....

Wait. What I said was not meant to be offensive in any way. I just gave an example to the people so that they stop fighting. In no way in my post did I criticized Iran. I actually admire them in there advancement. Dont know where you got those two points from which i've bolded coz i dont recall me saying anything against them...

 

[deckingraj]

Wait. What I said was not meant to be offensive in any way. I just gave an example to the people so that they stop fighting. In no way in my post did I criticized Iran. I actually admire them in there advancement. Dont know where you got those two points from which i've bolded coz i dont recall me saying anything against them...

Read the whole post and then you will get what i mean...I even bolded the part to which i replied....Those two points are in general and not against you...

 

[P.kid]

Read the whole post and then you will get what i mean...I even bolded the part to which i replied....Those two points are in general and not against you...

Soz man I misunderstood... And what I was trying to say was just stick together thats what my example was about.

 

[Luftwaffe]

cabatli_53...I'm neutral on this thread but let me asure you israelis are also wonderful specialists in Reverse Engineering us products, as well as in 70/80s french products, it is not just iran.

 

[Nima]

"Reverse engineering" is just an excuse of Iranians to perform their propagandas. They are just painting the juselage of 1960 made USA Cobra's and sticking some stickers on it and Then calling them like Iranian made...

In Iran we call Turks donkeys, literally!

Anyways eat this haters
"Israel Says Iran Choppers Launched in Navy Drill Better than US Cobra"

Israeli military sources have said that the Iranian Toufan (storm) chopper launched during the Iranian 8-days navy drill was heavily upgraded and much better than the US Cobra.

Israel Says Iran Choppers Launched in Navy Drill Better than US Cobra : Political Theatrics
All the haters can now go finger each other

 

[Shaheen 2]

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