Iran operating drones in Balochistan since March

[sohail.ishaque]

F*** off, you will not see my kind words pi%ce of s4it.
You may want to use Pakistan against us but fYI b4st4rd, it is not going to happen. Find an other market for your military junks

Incompetence or corruption, terrorist activities inside Pakistan is a proof for my claim. Peace inside Pakistan is achievable not with hitting our drones because of 4 Km error but through cooperation with us. Something USA-KSA will not tolerate.
What happened to Radd ul Fassad? Huh an other lie from your corrupt leaders. When will you learn?

Its neither incompetence nor corruption but its our trust on countries like urs. who we think as our friends but they have been helping RAW get its agents in our country and also they r helping the mafia(uzair baloch and others) to destabilize Pakistan... and we have proofs that we caught redhanded...

Are u serious if all the three countries block air and road transit you would be the land locked country!

u sure about that ??? will the blockade make Pakistan a land lock country ? i mean u really sure about that ? do we need to buy a new map coz there must b something that we r missing here...

That would be like starting a war and it would be on three fronts!

we already have done that... thats why this thread is going on.. Afghanis did that we taught them a lesson and then their injured soldiers were treated in our hospitals,.. and we already have downed the Iranian drone.. where is a 3 front war ?

 

[drmeson]

Iranians,

Do not take part in discussion. This is not our forum nor we can talk openly here. The amount of trolling/insults that mods here allow to be hurled at us is very sad and we will get banned if we try to respond, sad, but again its not our place. I would advise all to limit ourselves to technical discussion only.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I agree with this observation that Persian mullah force aka ICRG is not under the control of Iranian government.

Rather wasting time with Iranian government, someone in Pakistan needs to pick up phone and call Khaminaie directly and tell him to lay off.

 

[Thorough Pro]

There lies the problem (in the highlighted part), there should be ZERO tolerance and no need for taking decisions, response must be immediate and like a reflex action. some wise person said, nip the evil in the bud.

Iran is pushing her luck which wouldn't be a wise move. Pakistan can tolerate only so much before we decide to hit back. So Pakistan already raised the issue with Iran but Iranians didnt listen, than shooting down the drone was the right call and this should be followed on again by shooting down all drones that enter Pakistan.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

There had been multiple incidents in which even Fighter jets from Iran have crossed over to Turkey and visa versa. I know this specifically due to the fact that one of these incidents made it to the media and at the time the official response was "this happens all the time"

The fact that nothing happens is merely because Iran and Turkey are not some failed states who act like cry babies when their ego is hurt.

We think and we calculate that's why we both are the most scientifically advanced Muslim nations having surpassed nations like Pakistan by tens of folds

Show me link which says Iranian drone has crossed Turks' territory without getting shot down or warning...

Ego and Iran is synonymous. That's why you are the most cornered country after North Korea.

Rest is off topic post...More drones of yours will be shot down...So u better behave. I think we should give the wreckage of drone to KSA...

 

[IceCold]

Please stop taking credit for something you haven't done. From 0 to 100, all intelligence and operational activities that led to arrest of Rigi was done by Iran in a sophisticated operation. It was also denied by Iran officially that Pakistan helped in arrest of Rigi.

I am not taking credit for anything merely stating what my country believes and i tend to stick with it. Also thats just one part of the story there are countless others like not becoming part of collation against Iran during Iran Iran war. Pakistan was the first country to accept the Islamic regime of Iran. Pakistan to this date to the dismay of our arab allies does not become part of any alliance that is against Iran. How has Iran reciprocated? Right by hosting anti Pakistan elements, giving the likes of Uzair Baloch Iranian Passport. Allowing India to carry on its nefarious activities against Pakistan using Iranian soil.

About drone issue, I have shared my opinion before. First, some people should stop their overjoy for downing of a drone that moves at like 180 km/h.

I am not one of those people, in fact i was against it and had to bear the heat from my fellow countrymen who started to assume that i belong to Shia sec (which i dont). But i also am of the opinion that Iran shouldnt push its luck too far with Pakistan. There is only so much that we will allow and this downing of the drone should send a clear signal to the hawks in Tehran.

Second, Iran maintains huge drone fleet near Pakistani border for one single purpose: monitor and intercept any drug smuggling/terror activity that might come from other side of border. We have had enough of it already.

Again it does not matter how large or huge your drone fleet is. Anything that crosses over without permission will be shot down from now on. The ball is in the Iranian court to deescalate.

In situations like this, accidents tend to happen, drones may cross the border by mistake and we now know it was only 4 km into Pakistani airspace, which takes only few seconds to pass.

Perhaps but than again considering your army chief not to long ago threaten to strike inside Pakistan, i have a hard time believing that it was a mistake. Your generals are mistaking our intent for peaceful and brotherly relations with weakness and lack of capability.

Some people, unsurprisingly mostly those Saudi loving Pakistanis who are more Arab than Saudis themselves, trying to link this incident with a global Indian/American/Afghan/Iranian/Martian/RAW conspiracy against Pakistan pursue only their own lame agenda, nothing more.

You shouldnt be that naive because many countries including our so called arab allies are hell bent to put a wedge in our relations. It should not come as a surprise.

There lies the problem (in the highlighted part), there should be ZERO tolerance and no need for taking decisions, response must be immediate and like a reflex action. some wise person said, nip the evil in the bud.

I think the message was clear that from now on there will be zero tolerance. But going with the past history there might use to be some sort of border cooperation between the two sides until now when the Iranians hawks decided to take things in their own hands without informing the Pakistani side of their intent. This was also clear with the way Iranian army chief or commander who ever he was threaten to use force inside Pakistan. The signal is clear enough not to mistake our intent for peaceful and brotherly relations with weakness and lack of capability.
The reason we did not hear anything from Iran is because they have got the message loud and clear and i dont think they will test our resolve any further. But yes if they do than we need to show them that this is Pakistan not Syria or Iraq and if we decide to hit them back they will be in a lot of trouble.

 

[KN-1]

we allowed them to dance on our head. what you expected?

Iranians,

Do not take part in discussion. This is not our forum nor we can talk openly here. The amount of trolling/insults that mods here allow to be hurled at us is very sad and we will get banned if we try to respond, sad, but again its not our place. I would advise all to limit ourselves to technical discussion only.

You have more liberties and free speech here then your country under Mullahs, enjoy.

Show me link which says Iranian drone has crossed Turks' territory without getting shot down or warning...

Ego and Iran is synonymous. That's why you are the most cornered country after North Korea.

Rest is off topic post...More drones of yours will be shot down...So u better behave. I think we should give the wreckage of drone to KSA...

its an international Pariah state whose citizen are calling us failing. they should pray that this failing state never go rough like them.

 

[KN-1]

some benefits of bordering with Pakistan:
2017
Militants kill 10 Iranian border guards in attack on frontier with Pakistan

2015
8 Iranian border guards killed in clashes near Pakistan - CNN.com

2013
14 Iranian guards killed in clashes near Pakistan-Iran border: Report

they are your homegrown terrorist nor Rigi, neither jaish ul Adal goons are Pakistani, they cross border due to incompetence of your borders guards. you should seal the border.

Meanwhile Pakistan should seal border with Afghanistan (we are doing fencing), then we should clean our houses from filth, blaming each other wont solve any problem. you should know that your Mullah are not innocent, they interfere in Pakistan, fund sectarians lobbies. we dont.

 

[H!TchHiker]

some benefits of bordering with Pakistan:
2017
Militants kill 10 Iranian border guards in attack on frontier with Pakistan

2015
8 Iranian border guards killed in clashes near Pakistan - CNN.com

2013
14 Iranian guards killed in clashes near Pakistan-Iran border: Report

Why Iran is so lenient towards Pakistan ? what could iran possible reaction be ? since drones are not allowed..

they are your homegrown terrorist nor Rigi, neither jaish ul Adal goons are Pakistani, they cross border due to incompetence of your borders guards. you should seal the border.

So you are saying Some Iranians national crossed the border goes Iran killed some of the security forces and then cross the border back to Pakistan without being touched ?
How could this be possible ?

 

[Icarus]

Thread opened after clean up.

Keep to the topic. Insults, sarcasm and useless posts will not be tolerated. Learn to discuss like adults.

And the foodies should take their discussion to the relevant thread. This is not the thread for lassi, rooh afza and biryani.

In situations like this, accidents tend to happen, drones may cross the border by mistake and we now know it was only 4 km into Pakistani airspace, which takes only few seconds to pass.

Seeing as there is no air base in the immediate vicinity and any aircraft had to be scrambled from at least 300 km away.
We can deduce that either there was an aircraft just waiting for the drone to cross the border or that the drone had flown much deeper into the country than 4 km.
Seeing as the first part is quite unlikely, I am inclined towards the second, I remain open to debate however.

 

[mohsen]

they are your homegrown terrorist nor Rigi, neither jaish ul Adal goons are Pakistani, they cross border due to incompetence of your borders guards. you should seal the border.

Meanwhile Pakistan should seal border with Afghanistan (we are doing fencing), then we should clean our houses from filth, blaming each other wont solve any problem. you should know that your Mullah are not innocent, they interfere in Pakistan, fund sectarians lobbies. we dont.

If these terrorist groups (whether Iranian or from any other nationality) were inside Iran we would take care of them, but they are stationed inside Pakistan. as long as U.S and Saudi Arabia exist, these terrorist group will exist too.

in a majority Sunni region, there is zero reason for Iran to fund sectarian lobbies, while your U.S and Saudis feed from this sectarian strife and it's in their interest. and don't tell me Saudi's spread of Wahhabism in Pakistan is without the consent of your government.

Thread opened after clean up.

Keep to the topic. Insults, sarcasm and useless posts will not be tolerated. Learn to discuss like adults.

And the foodies should take their discussion to the relevant thread. This is not the thread for lassi, rooh afza and biryani.

why did you delete my post, I expressed the reason for our drones crossing the Pakistan border.
is this how much you tolerate the true news which is against you?!

 

[Icarus]

why did you delete my post, I expressed the reason for our drones crossing the Pakistan border.
is this how much you tolerate the true news which is against you?!

The post was sarcastic, did not explain your point at all but rather simply threw some links into the face of the reader after a simple one liner.

Same post with actual discussion points and intent would have been fine.

 

[KN-1]

If these terrorist groups (whether Iranian or from any other nationality) were inside Iran we would take care of them, but they are stationed inside Pakistan. as long as U.S and Saudi Arabia exist, these terrorist group will exist too.

no they are not stationed inside Pakistan, they attack and flee from your borders where you incompetent border force dont stop them, we even arrested Abus Salam rigi and handed over to you who was traveling via international border, Yeah i am agree the US and Saudis are eager to exploit the situation in Baluchistan region but you should understand that its not in Pakistan's interests either, we dont want a flourishing Baloch insurgency..

in a majority Sunni region, there is zero reason for Iran to fund sectarian lobbies, while your U.S and Saudis feed from this sectarian strife and it's in their interest. and don't tell me Saudi's spread of Wahhabism in Pakistan is without the consent of your government.

what should i say to your blabbering, do you want me to post links of your ambassadors meeting Shia leaders, our shia marching with pics of Khamenie and Khomaini on issues such as Bahrain and syria? opposing Pakistan's role in yemen and saudi alliance.. who are you fooling...? didnt you saw fanatic shia like @B@KH? whose product they are? what is zainabyoon terrorists? as for Saudi sponsored, i already explain US Saudi, well i accept we have faults in our religious policies.. Govt have no control over mosques in Pakistan. mosques are private properties operated by communities unlike Iran and other countries..

 

[mohsen]

The post was sarcastic, did not explain your point at all but rather simply threw some links into the face of the reader after a simple one liner.

Same post with actual discussion points and intent would have been fine.

those titles (without the content inside) were more than enough to show why Iranian drones have crossed into Pakistan.

what you call sarcasm is ultimate reality on the Iran-Pakistan border. terrorists stationed inside Pakistan attack Iranian border guards and in return Pakistan shots down Iranian drone which wants to identify them, this whole story is a big sarcasm for you, not my comment.

but if sarcasm is your reason, then you can start deleting posts right from the second post in this thread, and if you don't want to, then at least put a marker below the threads that any comment (whether true or false) against Pakistan wont be tolerated.

what should i say to your ignorant blabbering, do you want me to post links of your ambassadors meeting Shia leaders, our shia marching with pics of Khamenie and Khomaini on issues such as Bahrain and syria? opposing Pakistan's role in yemen and saudi alliance.. who are you fooling...? didnt you saw fanatic shia like @B@KH? whose product they are? what is zainabyoon terrorists? as for Saudi sponsored, i already explain US Saudi, well i accept we have faults in our religious policies.. Govt have no control over mosques in Pakistan. mosques are private properties operated by communities unlike Iran and other countries..

apparently carrying Khameni's pictures is a crime in your view, either opposing against killing children in Yemen!
why zainabyoon are terrorists? cause they fight against the terrorists and defend their holy sites in Syria?! they are sectarian cause they want to defend their shrines?!
it reminds me of American's racist slogan: "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". either let terrorists destroy your holy sites or we will call you terrorist!

 

[KN-1]

apparently carrying Khameni's pictures is a crime in your view, either opposing against killing children in Yemen!
why zainabyoon are terrorists? cause they fight against the terrorists and defend their holy sites in Syria?! they are sectarian cause they want to defend their shrines?!

carrying Khaminie's pics show their funders and whose agenda they want to implement in Pakistan. i am 1000% with people marching against killings of innocent people but with pics of ayatollah who himself is involve in this killings? i think Iranian, Iraq, Syrian, Lebanese are enough to defend shrines, why your terrorist are recruiting Pakistani citizen and crying like a bastard child? should Pakistan be allowed to recruit Balochs from sistan for defence of Pakistan?