Iran launches 'space' rocket

[S-2]

In Focus: IAEA and Iran- IAEA.org

Your congenital hatred of America clouds your reasoning skills. Please review the information available at the above IAEA site to fully understand the level of inaccuracy behind your below-offered statement-

"...Iran signed all the treaties to prove that it does not intend to develop nuclear weapons and IAEA can inspect them whenever they want..."

Signing paper is a far cry from cooperative and pro-active adherance to the requirements of NPT membership. Iran has consistently FAILED to provide full access to it's facilities IAW [in accordance with] it's treaty obligations. Not that it's mattered as Iran has consistently failed to declare the existence of such facilities also IAW it's obligations. In truth, from 1984 to 2003 Iran was engaged in the willful deception of the IAEA. This is now a known FACT which you callously disregard in your "assessment".

"...US is trying to prove to the world the otherway. This is pathetic on part of the US."

No. Instead, the U.S. and the rest of the NPT signatories would like the truth, determined independent from Iranian obstruction. Both the failed EU-3 discussions and the rejected Russian offer of fuel exchange has called serious attention to the continuing Iranian dissemblance and obfuscation. So too the rejections made to American offers in May, 2006 of aid packages and participation in EU-3 talks in exchange for suspension of enrichment activities as consistently demanded by the IAEA.

Iran is now supposedly in command of the complete fuel cycle. Courtesy of your citizen, A.Q. Khan, it appears that they've valid designs for warheads. Clearly, they've now acquired MULTIPLE delivery means. The triad of nuclear weapons development. All that really remains is an adequate and sustainable source of nuclear material. That should be soon (nine months to five years depending on who you choose to believe). No longer "if" but "when".

The latest U.S. intelligence community's N.I.E. is a fascinating read-

Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities

It demarks warhead design and delivery as military programs while leaving enrichment outside it's purview. It assesses that Iran maintained a clandestine nuclear weapons program through 2003. This was, coincidentally, supposedly shut down following the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Certainly Libya seems to have developed concerns. So too, evidently, Iran. If true, what the IAEA actually was "tipped" to in 2003 was clandestine elements of a weapons program.

Most observers understand that, separated or not, the most difficult aspect of a nuclear weapon is the development and possession of weapon-grade nuclear material. As of now, it is the only element which keeps Iran from a deliverable nuclear device. Warhead design is a known engineering task for which Iran is entirely capable of quickly mastering if it has not already done so.

It's one thing, Ice Cold, to openly wish for an Iranian nuke in defiance of their NPT obligations as supervised by the I.A.E.A. Blaming my nation for recognizing and insisting that Iran adhere to the agreed accords is obfuscation of the issue AND the facts behind it.

"...while it was just a mere rocket."

No rocket designed to precisely place a satellite in geo-synchronous orbit in the earth's upper atmosphere is "mere". Actually, both the velocity and precision required to introduce a vehicle in a low space orbit suggests all the qualities of a ballistic missile.

You can say what you will but America receives about 20% of her IMPORTED energy from the middle-east. Modest by our overall use. What isn't said is the regional fear by S.A. and the G.C.C. states of Iranian hegemony over the straits of Hormuz.

Iran is building a nuclear weapon capability. If you feel good about it next door, fine. I don't but most Americans understand that we're well down the list of those directly threatened by this development- for now. It will end the NPT as we know it. Perhaps that's best if enforcement and voluntary adherance are a thing of the past.

The implications of what lies beyond are unclear but promise stark new realities for EVERYBODY concerned. That will include Pakistan, naturally.

Ice Cold, this isn't really for you. I simply won't tolerate your casually offered dissemblance of the issue at the expense of the FACTS. There are too many gullible folks here who'll willingly believe you. Many will in any case but they deserve at least the chance to review the perspectives of the IAEA and others.

For sure, that wouldn't come at your hands.

 

[dabong1]

In Focus: IAEA and Iran- IAEA.org

Your congenital hatred of America clouds your reasoning skills. Please review the information available at the above IAEA site to fully understand the level of inaccuracy behind your below-offered statement-

"...Iran signed all the treaties to prove that it does not intend to develop nuclear weapons and IAEA can inspect them whenever they want..."

Signing paper is a far cry from cooperative and pro-active adherance to the requirements of NPT membership. Iran has consistently FAILED to provide full access to it's facilities IAW [in accordance with] it's treaty obligations. Not that it's mattered as Iran has consistently failed to declare the existence of such facilities also IAW it's obligations. In truth, from 1984 to 2003 Iran was engaged in the willful deception of the IAEA. This is now a known FACT which you callously disregard in your "assessment".

"...US is trying to prove to the world the otherway. This is pathetic on part of the US."

No. Instead, the U.S. and the rest of the NPT signatories would like the truth, determined independent from Iranian obstruction. Both the failed EU-3 discussions and the rejected Russian offer of fuel exchange has called serious attention to the continuing Iranian dissemblance and obfuscation. So too the rejections made to American offers in May, 2006 of aid packages and participation in EU-3 talks in exchange for suspension of enrichment activities as consistently demanded by the IAEA.

Iran is now supposedly in command of the complete fuel cycle. Courtesy of your citizen, A.Q. Khan, it appears that they've valid designs for warheads. Clearly, they've now acquired MULTIPLE delivery means. The triad of nuclear weapons development. All that really remains is an adequate and sustainable source of nuclear material. That should be soon (nine months to five years depending on who you choose to believe). No longer "if" but "when".

The latest U.S. intelligence community's N.I.E. is a fascinating read-

Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities

It demarks warhead design and delivery as military programs while leaving enrichment outside it's purview. It assesses that Iran maintained a clandestine nuclear weapons program through 2003. This was, coincidentally, supposedly shut down following the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Certainly Libya seems to have developed concerns. So too, evidently, Iran. If true, what the IAEA actually was "tipped" to in 2003 was clandestine elements of a weapons program.

Most observers understand that, separated or not, the most difficult aspect of a nuclear weapon is the development and possession of weapon-grade nuclear material. As of now, it is the only element which keeps Iran from a deliverable nuclear device. Warhead design is a known engineering task for which Iran is entirely capable of quickly mastering if it has not already done so.

It's one thing, Ice Cold, to openly wish for an Iranian nuke in defiance of their NPT obligations as supervised by the I.A.E.A. Blaming my nation for recognizing and insisting that Iran adhere to the agreed accords is obfuscation of the issue AND the facts behind it.

"...while it was just a mere rocket."

No rocket designed to precisely place a satellite in geo-synchronous orbit in the earth's upper atmosphere is "mere". Actually, both the velocity and precision required to introduce a vehicle in a low space orbit suggests all the qualities of a ballistic missile.

You can say what you will but America receives about 20% of her IMPORTED energy from the middle-east. Modest by our overall use. What isn't said is the regional fear by S.A. and the G.C.C. states of Iranian hegemony over the straits of Hormuz.

Iran is building a nuclear weapon capability. If you feel good about it next door, fine. I don't but most Americans understand that we're well down the list of those directly threatened by this development- for now. It will end the NPT as we know it. Perhaps that's best if enforcement and voluntary adherance are a thing of the past.

The implications of what lies beyond are unclear but promise stark new realities for EVERYBODY concerned. That will include Pakistan, naturally.

Ice Cold, this isn't really for you. I simply won't tolerate your casually offered dissemblance of the issue at the expense of the FACTS. There are too many gullible folks here who'll willingly believe you. Many will in any case but they deserve at least the chance to review the perspectives of the IAEA and others.

For sure, that wouldn't come at your hands.

The only country that iran could be a threat to is israel.......and we all know that in the real world it is the israelis and its supporters in the US media/banking machine that are the threat.

The israeli with the help of the neo cons ,who the majority by some strange coincidence share the same faith as the israelis got iraq destroyed.
Iran is not a direct threat to the US.....but let me guess the mass neo con/zionist controlled media has drilled the message into your head that it is a threat you think its true!

 

[S-2]

dabong1,

Thanks for your careful and thoughtful post. You add so much here by your considered prose. We should all be grateful.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

At last iran speaks out----

Dawn Today,


Iran angered over India's launch of Israeli spy satellite NEW DELHI, Feb 5 (AFP): Iran said Tuesday it had lodged an official complaint with New Delhi over India's commercial launch of an Israeli spy satellite last month. “The Indian government says the issue is a technical and commercial one, but we hope the matter can be considered from the point of view of protocol,” Iran's ambassador to New Delhi, Sayed Mahdi Nabizadeh, told reporters. “We hope that an independent and wise country like India will not give their space technology to launch any instruments of espionage. Our officials have expressed our point of view,” he added.(Posted @ 13:50 PST)

 

[dabong1]

dabong1,

Thanks for your careful and thoughtful post. You add so much here by your considered prose. We should all be grateful.

LOL....what wrong!...... can't answer the question?

I keep it simple and sweet.

 

[KENT]

Hi,

At last iran speaks out----

Dawn Today,


Iran angered over India's launch of Israeli spy satellite NEW DELHI, Feb 5 (AFP): Iran said Tuesday it had lodged an official complaint with New Delhi over India's commercial launch of an Israeli spy satellite last month. “The Indian government says the issue is a technical and commercial one, but we hope the matter can be considered from the point of view of protocol,” Iran's ambassador to New Delhi, Sayed Mahdi Nabizadeh, told reporters. “We hope that an independent and wise country like India will not give their space technology to launch any instruments of espionage. Our officials have expressed our point of view,” he added.(Posted @ 13:50 PST)

Even ultra-cheap source like Google earth could be use to view the images of Iranian Nucler installation sites.

Iran should understand the fact that Isreali spy satellite launching by PSLV was completely for a commercial purpose, there were nothing anything as Iranian centeric. Even Iran can come forward with their own spy satellite and put there satellite over PSLV.

 

[IceCold]

In Focus: IAEA and Iran- IAEA.org

Your congenital hatred of America clouds your reasoning skills
Signing paper is a far cry from cooperative and pro-active adherance to the requirements of NPT membership. Iran has consistently FAILED to provide full access to it's facilities IAW [in accordance with] it's treaty obligations. Not that it's mattered as Iran has consistently failed to declare the existence of such facilities also IAW it's obligations. In truth, from 1984 to 2003 Iran was engaged in the willful deception of the IAEA. This is now a known FACT which you callously disregard in your "assessment".

"...US is trying to prove to the world the otherway. This is pathetic on part of the US."

No. Instead, the U.S. and the rest of the NPT signatories would like the truth, determined independent from Iranian obstruction. Both the failed EU-3 discussions and the rejected Russian offer of fuel exchange has called serious attention to the continuing Iranian dissemblance and obfuscation. So too the rejections made to American offers in May, 2006 of aid packages and participation in EU-3 talks in exchange for suspension of enrichment activities as consistently demanded by the IAEA.
Iran is now supposedly in command of the complete fuel cycle. Courtesy of your citizen, A.Q. Khan, it appears that they've valid designs for warheads. Clearly, they've now acquired MULTIPLE delivery means. The triad of nuclear weapons development. All that really remains is an adequate and sustainable source of nuclear material. That should be soon (nine months to five years depending on who you choose to believe). No longer "if" but "when".

The latest U.S. intelligence community's N.I.E. is a fascinating read-

Iran: Nuclear Intentions and Capabilities

It demarks warhead design and delivery as military programs while leaving enrichment outside it's purview. It assesses that Iran maintained a clandestine nuclear weapons program through 2003. This was, coincidentally, supposedly shut down following the U.S. occupation of Iraq. Certainly Libya seems to have developed concerns. So too, evidently, Iran. If true, what the IAEA actually was "tipped" to in 2003 was clandestine elements of a weapons program.

Most observers understand that, separated or not, the most difficult aspect of a nuclear weapon is the development and possession of weapon-grade nuclear material. As of now, it is the only element which keeps Iran from a deliverable nuclear device. Warhead design is a known engineering task for which Iran is entirely capable of quickly mastering if it has not already done so.

It's one thing, Ice Cold, to openly wish for an Iranian nuke in defiance of their NPT obligations as supervised by the I.A.E.A. Blaming my nation for recognizing and insisting that Iran adhere to the agreed accords is obfuscation of the issue AND the facts behind it.

"...while it was just a mere rocket."





Iran is building a nuclear weapon capability. If you feel good about it next door, fine. I don't but most Americans understand that we're well down the list of those directly threatened by this development- for now. It will end the NPT as we know it. Perhaps that's best if enforcement and voluntary adherance are a thing of the past.

The implications of what lies beyond are unclear but promise stark new realities for EVERYBODY concerned. That will include Pakistan, naturally.



For sure, that wouldn't come at your hands.

Ok well let me put it this way, facts and propaganda are two different things, what you are doing here inspired by the neo con/zionist controlled media, is nothing more then personal created BS. Now let me explain it as to how? You see you have quoted IAEA! so much for quoting them, indeed i dont need to tell who's agenda IAEA is following. These orgainisations the IAEA, the unitednations, are nothing more then playtoys in the hands of the west in paticular the US. Now you can deny that all you want but that would not change the truth about these organisations and their motives. Now you see US went to iraq against the so the called threat of WMS, how many did the US discovered, the answer to it is known by all. There was also an IAEA diplomat in iraq under who's recomendation the same old BS story "iraq not cooperating fully", The cliton administration launched CM's attacks on iraq. You expect iran to do the same and yet suffer the same faith iraq did, you are so mistaken. As for signing the treaties and you calling it a far cry, well if iran did intented to make bomb, it was far easier to do it without signing the treaties which has made iran obligatory to open her nuclear installations to the IAEA whenever they want(US want). Now Let me quote you from the same site you did El.Baradei's remarks about iran's intensions:

Dr. ElBaradei said that to date in Iran, the Agency had "not seen any diversion of nuclear materials... nor the capacity to produce weapons usable materials". He said that these were also "important elements in assessing the situation, assessing the risk, and understanding how to address the Iranian question".

Somehow US always miss this part and is convinced to sell their part of the story to the world and not what it is in actual.

No rocket designed to precisely place a satellite in geo-synchronous orbit in the earth's upper atmosphere is "mere". Actually, both the velocity and precision required to introduce a vehicle in a low space orbit suggests all the qualities of a ballistic missile.

And my question to this was that, if indeed intented so like you mentioned, then why havent the iranians test fired the missile instead? Their ballsitic missile programe is known by all, so there wasnt any point to put it in a disguise afterall it would have been seen as a threat in any case. The impression i get about this is your hate and your(US) constant denying to see things the way they are and not what you intend the world to see to achieve your agenda.

You can say what you will but America receives about 20% of her IMPORTED energy from the middle-east.

Thats what it is all about. Oil is the real agenda and US need an excuse to attack tehran, so nuclear card is being played here, the same way it was played for iraq.Pathetic

Iran is building a nuclear weapon capability. If you feel good about it next door, fine. I don't but most Americans understand that we're well down the list of those directly threatened by this development- for now. It will end the NPT as we know it. Perhaps that's best if enforcement and voluntary adherance are a thing of the past.

Really! according to who? US and Israel. Its not about whether i feel good or bad the question is about the right and yes iran has the right to built nuclear energy for peaceful purpose as anyother country in the world and so has pakistan stated on numerous occasions that iran has a right to gain nuclear technology for peacefull purpose and pakistan will oppose any US led military action on Iran.
About you feeling not fine, well how could you when you just answered the question yourself above about energy. It has always bin about oil and nothing else, nuclear propaganda is just a cover up to engage iran just like iraq for having WMD according to the US.

Ice Cold, this isn't really for you. I simply won't tolerate your casually offered dissemblance of the issue at the expense of the FACTS. There are too many gullible folks here who'll willingly believe you. Many will in any case but they deserve at least the chance to review the perspectives of the IAEA and others.

Why isnt it for me? If you are so sure about your so called facts more of a bunch of lies i should say then prove me wrong and i will be more then happy to acknowledge. By the way what facts are you talking about anyway? The distorted facts that you just mentioned above. Everybody here is educated enough to understand the US real ambitions about the islamic world. US is the only nation where a senator stands up and say we need to bomb the holy places of muslims in S.A.
Stop telling others how to live their lives and what to do and what not to do, and the world will become a much better place to live in.

By the way there is no space in my nick! I'll prefer it to be written the way it is and not the way you intend too.

 

[HAIDER]

 

[MastanKhan]

Kent,

You are a good kid---but sometimes you don't use common sense. If google could do it all, then why would india need to launch an israeli satellite. Seems like the satellite would be able to do a lot more than what google can do.

The issue about iran complaining to india is its percieved relationship with india.

 

[S-2]

It's a rant and nothing but.

I've had to stop reading about half-way through as it's sorta nonsensical (more neo-con/zionist media bleating) and very hard to understand. That's the third time you've referenced neo-con/zionist media. You should provide proof as most American media syndicates are openly traded on the NYSE. Some of your friends here could probably vouch that. However, evidently, you've little faith in western media, IAEA, or the U.N in any case.

What are your favorite news sources that I might be better informed?

How about the C.I.A.? Trust them?

Read the Duelfer report some time. You'll like it.

Oh! One more thing...your facts are wrong. It was a congressman, not a senator. Here's the story and the proper CONTEXT-not that you care one bit.

"A Colorado congressman told a radio show host that the U.S. could 'take out' Islamic holy sites if Muslim fundamentalist terrorists attacked the country with nuclear weapons.

Rep. Tom Tancredo made his remarks Friday on WFLA-AM in Orlando, Fla. His spokesman stressed he was only speaking hypothetically.

Talk show host Pat Campbell asked the Littleton Republican how the country should respond if terrorists struck several U.S. cities with nuclear weapons.

'Well, what if you said something like — if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites,' Tancredo answered.

"You're talking about bombing Mecca," Campbell said.

"Yeah," Tancredo responded.

The congressman later said he was 'just throwing out some ideas' and that an 'ultimate threat' might have to be met with an 'ultimate response.'

Spokesman Will Adams said Sunday the four-term congressman doesn't support threatening holy Islamic sites but that Tancredo was grappling with the hypothetical situation of a terrorist strike deadlier than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."

Those are the actual facts of the comments. Please ignore the context of the comments...you know, the part where muslim fundamentalists attack America with multiple nuclear weapons.

 

[KENT]

double post

 

[KENT]

Kent,

You are a good kid---

Oh Really! if this is the case then who you are a kindergarten.

but sometimes you don't use common sense.

Mastan, I always apply my entire wisdom, let alone common sense.

If google could do it all,

There is way differentiation between Google and SAR Satellite. SAR satellite can see the images of a particuler installation in even during harsh and cloudy cliamtic condition as well. Regarding my use of Google was to proved that when anyone can Nucler installation of IRAN through the google by sitting at home then why does so much discontent with Indian SPY satellite launch.

then why would india need to launch an israeli satellite.

Since Indian satellite launch vehicle are commercial now dedicated for commercial purpose.

Seems like the satellite would be able to do a lot more than what google can do.

Offcourse, since SAR can even see from cloudy and stormy condition.

The issue about iran complaining to india is its percieved relationship with india.

That is why I suggested IRAN to come with their Own spy satellite on deploy it over Indian Launch vechile, nobody will express their annoyance with that since ISRO has opened its commercial wing as well.

 

[dabong1]

That is why I suggested IRAN to come with their Own spy satellite on deploy it over Indian Launch vechile, nobody will express their annoyance with that since ISRO has opened its commercial wing as well.

I would love to see india launch an iranian satellite......call the indian bluff.
If indian refuses to launch an iranian satellite what will be your excuse?

 

[dabong1]

It's a rant and nothing but.

I've had to stop reading about half-way through as it's sorta nonsensical (more neo-con/zionist media bleating) and very hard to understand. That's the third time you've referenced neo-con/zionist media. You should provide proof as most American media syndicates are openly traded on the NYSE. Some of your friends here could probably vouch that. However, evidently, you've little faith in western media, IAEA, or the U.N in any case.

What are your favorite news sources that I might be better informed?

How about the C.I.A.? Trust them? .

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Furthermore, even those newspapers still under Gentile ownership and management are so thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising revenue that their editorial and news reporting policies are largely constrained by Jewish likes and dislikes. It holds true in the newspaper business as elsewhere that he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Three Jewish Newspapers

The suppression of competition and the establishment of local monopolies on the dissemination of news and opinion have characterized the rise of Jewish control over America's newspapers. The resulting ability of the Jews to use the press as an unopposed instrument of Jewish policy could hardly be better illustrated than by the examples of the nation's three most prestigious and influential newspapers: the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post. These three, dominating America's financial and political capitals, are the newspapers which set the trends and the guidelines for nearly all the others. They are the ones which decide what is news and what isn't, at the national and international levels. They originate the news; the others merely copy it, and all three newspapers are in Jewish hands. The New York Times was founded in 1851 by two Gentiles, Henry Raymond and George Jones. After their deaths, it was purchased in 1896 from Jones's estate by a wealthy Jewish publisher, Adolph Ochs. His great-grandson, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., is the paper's current publisher and CEO. The executive editor is Max Frankel, and the managing editor is Joseph Lelyveld. Both of the latter are also Jews. The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York Times Co., 33 other newspapers, including the Boston Globe; twelve magazines, including McCall's and Family Circle with circulations of more than 5 million each; seven radio and TV broadcasting stations; a cable-TV system; and three book publishing companies. The New York Times News Service transmits news stories, features, and photographs from the New York Times by wire to 506 other newspapers, news agencies, and magazines. Of similar national importance is the Washington Post, which, by establishing its "leaks" throughout government agencies in Washington, has an inside track on news involving the Federal government. The Washington Post, like the New York Times, had a non-Jewish origin. It was established in 1877 by Stilson Hutchins, purchased from him in 1905 by John McLean, and later inherited by Edward McLean. In June 1933, however, at the height of the Great Depression, the newspaper was forced into bankruptcy. It was purchased at a bankruptcy auction by Eugene Meyer, a Jewish financier. The Washington Post is now run by Katherine Meyer Graham, Eugene Meyer's daughter. She is the principal stockholder and the board chairman of the Washington Post Co. In 1979, she appointed her son Donald publisher of the paper. He now also holds the posts of president and CEO of the Washington Post Co. The Washington Post Co. has a number of other media holdings in newspapers, television, and magazines, most notably the nation's number-two weekly newsmagazine, Newsweek. The Wall Street Journal, which sells 1.8 million copies each weekday, is the nation's largest-circulation daily newspaper. It is owned by Dow Jones & Company, Inc., a New York corporation which also publishes 24 other daily newspapers and the weekly financial tabloid Barron's, among other things. The chairman and CEO of Dow Jones is Peter Kann, who is a Jew. Kann also holds the posts of chairman and publisher of the Wall Street Journal. Most of New York's other major newspapers are in no better hands than the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal. The New York Daily News is owned by Jewish real-estate developer Mortimer B. Zuckerman. The Village Voice is the personal property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of the Hartz Mountain pet supply firm.

Other Mass Media

The story is pretty much the same for other media as it is for television, radio, and newspapers. Consider, for example, newsmagazines. There are only three of any note published in the United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News and World Report. Time, with a weekly circulation of 4.1 million, is published by a susidiary of Time Warner Communications. The CEO of Time Warner Communications, as mentioned above, is Gerald Levin, a Jew. Newsweek, as mentioned above, is published by the Washington Post Company, under the Jewess Katherine Meyer Graham. Its weekly circulation is 3.2 million. U.S. News & World Report, with a weekly circulation of 2.3 million, is owned and published by Mortimer Zuckerman, a Jew. Zuckerman also owns the Atlantic Monthly and New York's tabloid newspaper, the Daily News, which is the sixth-largest paper in the country. Among the giant book-publishing conglomerates, the situation is also Jewish. Three of the six largest book publishers in the U.S., according to Publisher's Weekly, are owned or controlled by Jews. The three are first-place Random House (with its many subsidiaries, including Crown Publishing Group), third-place Simon & Schuster, and sixth-place Time Warner Trade Group (including Warner Books and Little, Brown). Another publisher of special significance is Western Publishing. Although it ranks only 13th in size among all U.S. publishers, it ranks first among publishers of children's books, with more than 50 percent of the market. Its chairman and CEO is Richard Snyder, a Jew, who just replaced Richard Bernstein, also a Jew.

The Effect of Jewish Control of the Media

These are the facts of Jewish media control in America. Anyone willing to spend several hours in a large library can verify their accuracy. I hope that these facts are disturbing to you, to say the least. Should any minority be allowed to wield such awesome power? Certainly, not and allowing a people with beliefs such as expressed in the Talmud, to determine what we get to read or watch in effect gives this small minority the power to mold our minds to suit their own Talmudic interests, interests which as we have demonstrated are diametrically opposed to the interests of our people. By permitting the Jews to control our news and entertainment media, we are doing more than merely giving them a decisive influence on our political system and virtual control of our government; we also are giving them control of the minds and souls of our children, whose attitudes and ideas are shaped more by Jewish television and Jewish films than by their parents, their schools, or any other influence.

Oh! One more thing...your facts are wrong. It was a congressman, not a senator. Here's the story and the proper CONTEXT-not that you care one bit.

"A Colorado congressman told a radio show host that the U.S. could 'take out' Islamic holy sites if Muslim fundamentalist terrorists attacked the country with nuclear weapons.

Rep. Tom Tancredo made his remarks Friday on WFLA-AM in Orlando, Fla. His spokesman stressed he was only speaking hypothetically.

Talk show host Pat Campbell asked the Littleton Republican how the country should respond if terrorists struck several U.S. cities with nuclear weapons.

'Well, what if you said something like — if this happens in the United States, and we determine that it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their holy sites,' Tancredo answered.

"You're talking about bombing Mecca," Campbell said.

"Yeah," Tancredo responded.

The congressman later said he was 'just throwing out some ideas' and that an 'ultimate threat' might have to be met with an 'ultimate response.'

Spokesman Will Adams said Sunday the four-term congressman doesn't support threatening holy Islamic sites but that Tancredo was grappling with the hypothetical situation of a terrorist strike deadlier than the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks."

Those are the actual facts of the comments. Please ignore the context of the comments...you know, the part where muslim fundamentalists attack America with multiple nuclear weapons.

What your point?............did or did not the fool of a senator.....oh damn sorry its congressman say that he would attack muslim holy sites...yes or no.
Osama bin ladin comments where taken out of context also...is that acceptable.

 

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Bluff! whatever you wish, but have you heard anything about ISRO's commercial lauch vehicle corp called "Antrix" then care to get your words back.

If indian refuses to launch an iranian satellite what will be your excuse?

Don't worry about it! just provide me with your residential address I will send you packet full of delicous Indian Sweets on very next day of launching of Iranian spy satellite aboard Indian launcher.