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Baloch separatist movement in Pakistan has colonial history and neglect from Pakistani state for too long.

Most have given up arms and are mainstreamed.

Most are trained in Afghanistan.

Not these foreign funded groups. They are a rather new mix up of anti state wahabism + baloch separatism. You will be a fool if you think your own inner state is not concerned about their presence on pakistani soil. Saudi $ is delicious but no one wants trouble in their own house. Why do you think Pakistani forces recover kidnapped Iranian soldiers so easily each time there is a diplomatic row between Iran and Pakistan over Jandallah/Jaish al Adl.... Because your own country does not want them on its own soil but your country needs cash and cash comes from guess where ?

are you saying whole of balochistan belongs to Pakistan or balochis are pakistanis?

Baloch are Eastern Iranic people like pashtuns. But who cares . This is politics.

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I am out for now. Peace
 
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Not these foreign funded groups. They are a rather new mix up of anti state wahabism + baloch separatism. You will be a fool if you think your own inner state is not concerned about their presence on pakistani soil. Saudi $ is delicious but no one wants trouble in their own house. Why do you think Pakistani forces recover kidnapped Iranian soldiers so easily each time there is a diplomatic row between Iran and Pakistan over Jandallah/Jaish al Adl.... Because your own country does not want them on its own soil but your country needs cash and cash comes from guess where ?

so you want me to rebel against the government like bilawal?

Baloch are Eastern Iranic people like pashtuns. But who cares . This is politics.

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i think you cannot differentiate between religion politics and ethnicity
 
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3) No one from Iran ever said that IRGC will fight with Pakistanis. There was talk of action against this group IN CONJUNCTION with Pakistan army. Problem ? This has happened before in Shah times. Recently there were some news of Turkish Forces and IRGC joint operation against insurgents, IRGC also collaborates with Iraqi forces. Whats wrong in Pakistani and Iranian joint action ?

Yep, agreed. Lets start a joint operation from Chahbahar where Indian terrorists are operating with immunity against Pakistan.

That would be a very good start. We have already helped you with Rigi etc, now it is your turn.
 
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Baloch sahib, until recently majority of Pakistanis (over 85%) including me had a very positive opinion towards Iran. In fact Pakistan was the only country in the world with such overwhelming positive opinion towards Iran. Now your logic that our population is brainwashed by Saudis does not match with reality on the ground.

And this is despite the hostile actions Iran was taking against Pakistan.

Now it has crossed lines and we can not just go on ignoring the threats it is causing to our country.

Should we have good relations with Iran? By all means.
Should the respect be just one-sided and Iran be allowed to continue its hostile actions against Pakistan? DEFINITELY NOT!
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This thread lol ...

Just because of that i am an enemy now
Get my gun i want to Balakot iran
 
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why should they be together in the first place?

they are the two sides of the same coin.

which is why you can sit in USA and support Iran but you cannot sit in Iran and support USA.

its trade of war that binds you
 
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What did you expect after Pakistan allowed GCC countries use proxies in Pakistan to suicide bomb 29 IRGC soldiers in Iran?

Mods, this false accusation needs to be dealt with the same way as fake Balakot propaganda from India.

@Horus @waz @Dubious @WebMaster

User should be asked to prove him assertion or face action, in my view.

We can’t let false news spread without its veracity being challenged on PDF.

Only sane comment in entire thread.

@waz @hours @Irfan Baloch @Dubious

Kindly don't allow sectarian debates on PDF.

I am wahabi but I consider shia & Sunni both are my Muslim brothers.

KSA & Iran both are stupid countries, they are gradually destroying Muslim world. Pakistan needs to mediate in order to eradicate hates between KSA & Iran.

I respect you brother for being bold with your religious preferences. As a Deobandi, we too are maligned much in this imposed sectarian war which has no culture in Pakistan.

Pakistan should not be pawns and puppets to any foreign powers.

Sunni (including Wahhabi, Ahle Hadees, Deobandi) and Shia (Isna Ashari and Ismaili) are our brothers and sisters and we should Be United together completely.

Keep sectarian differences to the muftis and faqis.
 
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Baloch are Eastern Iranic people like pashtuns. But who cares . This is politics.

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I am out for now. Peace

Outside english literature , these fancy terms like "east iranic" have no meaning what so ever, everyone clearly can see that both pashtuns and baloch are gentically closer to sindhis, punjabis and kashmiris than to persians or any other race of iran, all recent genetic studies have time and again proven it. Speaking a language doesn't mean anything expect in the corrupted minds of 18th century english and european linguists and anthropologists.

According to these fancy terms we punjabi speaking people are supposed to be "indo-aryan" which also has no meaning whatsoever for us, because we have no genetic connection with bengalis and sri lankan sihala who also enjoy designation of this english invented fancy term "indo-aryan".
 
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Baloch sahib, until recently majority of Pakistanis (over 85%) including me had a very positive opinion towards Iran. In fact Pakistan was the only country in the world with such overwhelming positive opinion towards Iran. Now your logic that our population is brainwashed by Saudis does not match with reality on the ground.

And this is despite the hostile actions Iran was taking against Pakistan.

Now it has crossed lines and we can not just go on ignoring the threats it is causing to our country.

Should we have good relations with Iran? By all means.
Should the respect be just one-sided and Iran be allowed to continue its hostile actions against Pakistan? DEFINITELY NOT!

My views exactly. Iran has overstepped its grounds and is behaving like an enemy.

Pakistani reaction should be equal to the Iranian rhetoric and hate.

But to tell you the truth, they are always “suspicious” of Baloch and Pakistani people.

Lack of people to people contact and false news makes it difficult for them to be unbiased.

We are neighbors, but we may as well not be and Sistan-Balochistan province may as well just be Sistan.

Baloch are almost invisible in Iran. Most Iranians live in the north and west.

1) Jaish al adl killed our boys. We won't let it go. This happened to last leader of this group (or its parent organization). This will happen to current leadership as well.

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2) This group is ideologically connected to and funded by Anti Iran elements from Persian Gulf. The kidnapped boys were recovered from Pakistani soil. Same group has been involved in spreading baloch separatism in your country. Who is hosting them ?

3) No one from Iran ever said that IRGC will fight with Pakistanis. There was talk of action against this group IN CONJUNCTION with Pakistan army. Problem ? This has happened before in Shah times. Recently there were some news of Turkish Forces and IRGC joint operation against insurgents, IRGC also collaborates with Iraqi forces. Whats wrong in Pakistani and Iranian joint action ?

2. It is the same financiers which were funding MeK, whom Iran also had difficult time dealing with for many years. It is US, Israel, and now India. They are funding BLA also.


3. Gen Qasem Soleimani’s statements were a threat and angered every Pakistani (including Shias.) He should apologize, he was wrong.

Today, Pakistan sent two planes full of aid to Iran for the flood relief, but will you appreciate it or continue to harp on hateful rhetoric?

Baloch separatist Wahhabi groups want to kill Pakistani and Iranian soldiers and they operate on pakistani soil? Thoughts ?

They are coming from Afghanistan, and you know it also. How many anti-Iranian governments are deployed there as part of NATO?

You have one friend in the region, Pakistan, try to keep it.

Not these foreign funded groups. They are a rather new mix up of anti state wahabism + baloch separatism. You will be a fool if you think your own inner state is not concerned about their presence on pakistani soil. Saudi $ is delicious but no one wants trouble in their own house. Why do you think Pakistani forces recover kidnapped Iranian soldiers so easily each time there is a diplomatic row between Iran and Pakistan over Jandallah/Jaish al Adl.... Because your own country does not want them on its own soil but your country needs cash and cash comes from guess where ?



Baloch are Eastern Iranic people like pashtuns. But who cares . This is politics.

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I am out for now. Peace

We can captured them along Afghan border. It should tell you something.

Baloch and Pukhtoons May speak what scientists may classify as East Iranic languages, but ethnic composition of both group is not that simple. Also Pukhto, Hindko, and Punjabi have a lot of similarities, same with Baloch and Sindhi/Seraiki.

The whole of Pakistan descends from mostly Iranic nomads (Parthians, Scythians, Hephthalites) from Kashmir, Punjab, Sindh to KPK and Balochistan.

We may be Iranic but we are not derived from Iran. Our ancestors independently migrated from Central Asian steppes over thousands of years in different waves.

We share a genetic link to Afghans, esp Pukhtoons, as it was the natural migration pattern through this region and had been united with them for most of our history.

Outside english literature , these fancy terms like "east iranic" have no meaning what so ever, everyone clearly can see that both pashtuns and baloch are gentically closer to sindhis, punjabis and kashmiris than to persians or any other race of iran, all recent genetic studies have time and again proven it. Speaking a language doesn't mean anything expect in the corrupted minds of 18th century english and european linguists and anthropologists.

According to these fancy terms we punjabi speaking people are supposed to be "indo-aryan" which also has no meaning whatsoever for us, because we have no genetic connection with bengalis and sri lankan sihala who also enjoy designation of this english invented fancy term "indo-aryan".

Yes, exactly brother. Check my thread when you get a chance at the link below:

THE SAKAS (SCYTHIANS) / KUSHANS/ HEPHTHALITES (WHITE HUNS)
 
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