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- Clyde Russell is a Reuters market analyst. The views expressed are his own.--

By Clyde Russell

(Reuters) - The market appears quite relaxed about the escalating dispute between India and Iran over payment for oil supplies, but it has wider implications and may yet disrupt Asian crude markets.

For now there seems to be little concern that Iran will stop shipping 400,000 barrels a day of oil to India next month, the view being that Saudi Arabia and other Gulf suppliers can take up the slack.

That may well be the case in the short term, especially since some Indian refiners are undergoing maintenance in August anyway, but the longer-term picture of how India will replace 12 percent of its crude supplies isn't so clear.

India hasn't paid Iran for oil since December after the Reserve Bank of India halted a clearing mechanism under U.S. pressure to crack down on doing business with Iran.

Already the Iranians are owed $5 billion, which must be hurting their struggling fiscal situation, and they finally put their foot down and said no more.

This raises some issues for both the crude oil market and the wider geopolitical situation in the Middle East and Asia.

First, the market issues. While the focus has been on how India will replace its Iranian supplies, the question should also be asked, what are the Iranians going to do with their extra oil?

Oil Minister S. Jaipal Reddy says his country has a back-up plan to secure supplies.

The problem is he didn't reveal what this was and Reddy wouldn't be the first politician to be economical with the truth if he thought it was in his, and India's, interests.

The most logical plan is for the Indians to buy their crude from the Saudis and other Gulf producers such as Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates.

That's all well and good, but it does tighten the supply of those crudes by 400,000 barrels a day.

The Saudis are believed to be pumping more oil, perhaps as much as 10 million barrels a day, some 25 percent above their Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries target of 8.05 million.

So long as the Saudis are producing more, India can probably get the supplies it needs, but it's also likely that the Saudis, knowing the demand is there, will see little need to lower prices.

On the other hand, the Iranians now have to try and sell the oil to other buyers, and that will present a few problems.

Not all Asian refiners can process their heavier grades, and some that can, such as Japan, won't buy because of the U.S. pressure.

That leaves China as the default buyer, with perhaps some of the slack being sent to Singapore, whose refiners can process around 1.5 million barrels a day.

But the Chinese have shown they are price-sensitive, and if they know there is a certain level of distress in Iran, they are likely to push for big discounts when buying crude.

Of course, the Iranians could put some of their output into floating storage in the hope a tighter market drives prices higher, but given their budget is weighed down by subsidy payments and the economy is still dealing with inflation above 10 percent, they are likely to be seeking immediate cash.

This may result in a tug-of-war in crude markets as the Saudis supply more oil at current high prices and the Iranians discount to find a new home for 11 percent of their output.

On the political front, the India payment issue may well raise the temperature between Saudi Arabia and Iran.

The surest way for the Saudis to show their displeasure at the Iranian-led move at the June OPEC meeting to keep output quotas unchanged is to take some of the Iran's market share.

The Saudis, no doubt with U.S. encouragement, may well make it harder for the Iranians to shift cargoes.

In fact, the United States may well be pleased with what's happening, the Indians seems to be OK with their oil supplies, the Saudis are pumping more and the Iranians are under pressure, although it's hard to see them buckling and ending their nuclear programme any time soon.

And what's in it for India, why would they bother going to all this hassle just to please the Americans?

It's no secret India wants a permanent seat on the UN Security Council and having the backing of the United States will help this endeavour. India also wants help with its nuclear power programme and the security of supplies of uranium fuel, something else the Americans can help with.

And the Chinese may well be happy too, buying Iranian crude at discounts.

Already they have been taking more from Iran, with June imports around 650,000 barrels a day, a jump of 53 percent from May, while year-to-date imports are up 49 percent.

Right now, crude markets in Asia might resemble something of a merry-go-round as producers shift who they sell to and buyers shuffle around suppliers.

(Editing by Clarence Fernandez)
Iran, India oil rumpus has wider implications: Clyde Russell | Reuters
 
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India hasn't paid Iran for oil since December after the Reserve Bank of India halted a clearing mechanism under U.S. pressure to crack down on doing business with Iran.

The US doesn't want people doing business with Iran.

But is this the right move for India?

And the Chinese may well be happy too, buying Iranian crude at discounts.

Nice side-effect. :D
 
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The US doesn't want people doing business with Iran.

But is this the right move for India?



Nice side-effect. :D

It's not just the Indian Govt. but also the banks that would matter. In fact I recently faced a problem while dealing with a supplier from Iran. Even if the Reserve Bank of India and the Indian Govt. allows payments, all the money in dollars or Euro's have to go through clearing banks. All these banks follows UN sanctions and will block the money. India is trying to setup rupee accounts for this purpose but that'll take time. But US rules state that any banks or companies operating against US sanctions will be banned in USA. Will the banks and companies agree to forgo that market?

China does have a Yuan payment mechanism which is why it could benefit from this and push for discounted prices.Only India,Japan and China can refine the sulphur rich crude of Iran. Either ways it's sad because Iran looses out.
 
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I am sure Iran won't stop it's oil exports.

Actually they have. There is basically no Iranian oil for the month of August and the shortfall is being made up by Saudis, kuwaitis, UAE and Iraq.

India has delayed the payments for far too long and resolving the payment issue should be done asap. Iran provides 12% of crude oil and is the second biggest provider.
 
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only solution is : Trade to Trade

compansate the oil payment against equipments/goods and services from india..

anyway , iran can't stop the oil suppy coz their own partol/desials comes from india after refined their crude oil ....got , it's not that easy as it looks..
 
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If one paying mechanism stops, so another one should start.....

Why its not happening ?

Iran certainly needs to get paid for the oil that it supplies.
 
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proof?
Iran stopped importing gasoling this year. New refineries came online and the subsidies on petrol were removed (petrol prices went up by crazy amounts over night, lowering demand). Iran is now a net exporter (Iraq was Iran's first customer in fact).

And India needs to stop sucking dick. It's absolutely shocking that a country the size of India is buckling under American pressure. Simply mind boggling.

"India hasn't paid Iran for oil since December after the Reserve Bank of India halted a clearing mechanism under U.S. pressure to crack down on doing business with Iran."

If one paying mechanism stops, so another one should start.....

Why its not happening ?

Iran certainly needs to get paid for the oil that it supplies.

Read post #5. There are no more international mechanisms open.
 
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Actually they have. There is basically no Iranian oil for the month of August and the shortfall is being made up by Saudis, kuwaitis, UAE and Iraq.

India has delayed the payments for far too long and resolving the payment issue should be done asap. Iran provides 12% of crude oil and is the second biggest provider.

That's only for a short time.
 
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Iran says won't cut India oil over payment dispute
Tags:Tehran|National Iranian Oil Co.
TEHRAN: Iran will not cut oil supplies to India despite warning refiners it could do so if months of unpaid bills are not settled soon, the Iranian Oil Ministry's news website SHANA said on Sunday.

"A warning has been sent to those refineries that are debtors, but sending such a letter does not mean Iran's oil exports have been cut, and we have no intention to cut our exports to the Indian market," SHANA quoted Mohsen Ghamsari, head of international affairs at the National Iranian Oil Co. (NIOC), as saying.

In a letter to Indian refiners dated June 27, Iran threatened to halt oil supplies in August unless the problem was resolved, sources at the refiners and NIOC told Reuters on Friday
 
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Is Iran ready to accept Indian Rupees?

It is sort of a sophisticated form of barter system. Since Iran buys 40% of it's refined oil from India as well as tea and machinery, Crude would be imported against letter of credit in rupees. This can then be used by Iran to buy goods from India. However, this can prove a setback for Iran in areas where it might have sourced more economical supplies from other countries. For India, it would represent a first step of globalization of the rupee.
 
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Read post #5. There are no more international mechanisms open.

what the hell are you talking about?
so how are other countries, staunch US allies at that, paying Iran?
And as the article mentioned, you guys HAVE CHOSEN not to deal with Iran under American pressure.

"India hasn't paid Iran for oil since December after the Reserve Bank of India halted a clearing mechanism under U.S. pressure to crack down on doing business with Iran."

Again, extremely pathetic how a giant country acts like a slave to a dying power such as the US. So pathetic.
 
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