Iran has two months until Azerbaijan prescribes polo to itself

[rmi5]

Persian was considered to be the language of intellectuals at one point in time.

It is still the language of intellectuals

 

[Azeri440]

Persian was not the language he only used for his poets, unlike Ottoman and Mughal poets, but also outside his poets. He could not speak Azeri, and certainly wasn't part of your artificial-created people. He was Persian, spoke Persian from his birth and lived in a region where Persians were the majority.

Azeri means Azerbaijani, which itself is a Persian word. Your country has been part of our history for more than 3000 years.

I suggest you find out the difference between poets and poems
like I stated before you cannot prove he is Iranian himself just because he lived in the city with iranian population
spoke persian from his birth? proof?

 

[Surenas]

I suggest you find out the difference between poets and poems
like I stated before you cannot prove he is Iranian himself just because he lived in the city with iranian population
spoke persian from his birth? proof?

He was Iranian since he spoke only Persian (no reference to him speaking Azerbaijani). Ganja (Ganj is a Persian word) was inhabited by a majority of Iranians, as various historians have mentioned, and most modern-day experts agree with this notion too.

Like I said, besides geography, he has nothing to do with your people and country.

 

[rmi5]

Completely in Persian ?

Then how the heck can I completely understand it ?

Its in Persianized Urdu - a language that already borrows heavily from the Persian Language !

For Example if I were to say that I'd have both of your nuts crushed by having them smashed by a fat arsed kitab - We'd both know that (i) your nuts are made of Jell-O & (ii) Kitab is a Book !

yes, persian speaking people can completely understand it. actually, Persian and Persianized Urdu sometimes seems mutually intelligible for me. Actually, That's why we can learn each others language very fast. one of my Pakistani friends, learnt Persian in just 1-2 months

@Armestrong

پاک سَرزَمِین شاد باد
كِشوَرِ حَسِين شاد باد
تُو نِشانِ عَزمِ عالی شان
!اَرضِ پاکِستان
مَرکَزِ یَقِین شاد باد
پاک سَرزَمِین کا نِظام
قُوَّتِ اُخُوَّتِ عَوام
قَوم، مُلک، سَلطَنَت
!پایِندَه تابِندَه باد
شاد باد مَنزِلِ مُراد
پَرچَمِ سِتَارَه و ہِلال
رَہبَرِ تَرَقّی و کَمال
تَرجُمانِ ماضی، شانِ حال
!جانِ اِستِقبال
سایۂ خُدائے ذوالجَلال

salute to this beautiful Urdu, and Persian Taranah.

 

[rmi5]

@Surenas , @Azeri440

guys please stop pan-turkism , pan-Farsism, ... .
Nizami is an example of our mutual and shared cultural and historical heritages.

 

[Azeri440]

He was Iranian since he spoke only Persian (no reference to him speaking Azerbaijani). Ganja (Ganj is a Persian word) was inhabited by a majority of Iranians, as various historians have mentioned, and most modern-day experts agree with this notion too.

Like I said, besides geography, he has nothing to do with your people and country.

uhhhh with the same logic i can surely say he was an Azeri since he lived there
and no reference of him being Iranian since the city itself had a iranian population
like I stated before Persian was the language most poets used during that period

 

[Surenas]

@Surenas , @Azeri440

guys please stop pan-turkism , pan-Farsism, ... .
Nizami is an example of our mutual and shared cultural and historical heritages.

Nizam is not part of Azerbaijani culture or heritage. Why would he?

@Surenas , @Azeri440

guys please stop pan-turkism , pan-Farsism, ... .
Nizami is an example of our mutual and shared cultural and historical heritages.

Nizam is not part of Azerbaijani culture or heritage. Why would he?

 

[Armstrong]

@Surenas , @Azeri440

guys please stop pan-turkism , pan-Farsism, ... .
Nizami is an example of our mutual and shared cultural and historical heritages.

I'd say give Nizami to us quietly & lets never talk about it again !

 

[rmi5]

I'd say give Nizami to us quietly & lets never talk about it again !

To Pakistan?
LOLs, I agree

I'd say give Nizami to us quietly & lets never talk about it again !

To Pakistan?
LOLs, I agree

 

[Surenas]

uhhhh with the same logic i can surely say he was an Azeri since he lived there
and no reference of him being Iranian since the city itself had a iranian population
like I stated before Persian was the language most poets used during that period

Persian was not the language he used; it was the only language he was familiar with. A huge difference. Nizami is part of Persian literature and not part of Azerbaijani literature or ethnicity.

 

[rmi5]

@Surenas , @Azeri440
Guys, Stop it please ...
If you haven't noticed it yet, That's a shitty discussion.

 

[Surenas]

Iranian Officials to Start Action against Azerbaijan’s Claim about Polo Sport Tomorrow

TEHRAN (FNA)- The Iranian officials from the foreign and sport ministries as well as the Iranian Cultural Heritage Organization are slated to discuss a recent attempt made by Azerbaijan’s Polo Federation to register ancient Iranian sport game under the name of their country, Caretaker of Iran's Sport and Youth Affairs Ministry Reza Salehi Amiri announced.

Some recent media reports said that Azerbaijan’s Polo Federation is attempting to register the ancient Iran game as a sport which has originated in Azerbaijan.

Salehi Amiri said he and officails from the foreign ministry and the Cultural Heritage Organization are due to focus on polo in their meeting tomorrow to study the Azeri claim about the sport which has originated in Iran as shown by a large body of evidence and documents.

Secretary of the Iranian Polo Federation Hojatollah Dehkhodan had also express his concern in this regard, warning that "another cultural heritage of Iran will be registered in the name of another country if the Iranian officials do not take necessary action".

In the same regard, Chairman of the Iranian Polo Federation Hamzeh Elhanizadeh also said that Azerbaijan's recent attempt to appropriate the name of Iranian poet Nezami Gyanjavi, Baku is now trying to do the same with the ancient Iranian sport game of polo and has already applied to UNESCO and the World Polo Federation.

“If Iran doesn’t undertake steps to present Polo as Iranian national sport-game then Azerbaijan will ascribe it to itself soon,” Elhanizadeh told the Islamic republic news agency.

Farsnews

 

[Targon]

rmi5 is the only sane person here.

He can be valuable to both people, just like Rumi, he barely spoke Turkish but yet he had a strong spiritual influence in Anatolia, Mevlevi order came after him and many of his descendents were also important people, they're still around.

 

[Esfand]

rmi5 is the only sane person here.

He can be valuable to both people, just like Rumi, he barely spoke Turkish but yet he had a strong spiritual influence in Anatolia, Mevlevi order came after him and many of his descendents were also important people, they're still around.

One thing is enjoying their work, which everyone can and should - something entirely different is to label him something he simply is not.

 

[Surenas]

rmi5 is the only sane person here.

He can be valuable to both people, just like Rumi, he barely spoke Turkish but yet he had a strong spiritual influence in Anatolia, Mevlevi order came after him and many of his descendents were also important people, they're still around.

Many Turks try to claim Rumi as a Turk as well, in despite of him being Persian. Like Erdogan's wife who gave a book of poems written by Rumi to Bush's wife, insinuating that Rumi was a Turk. to Why can't you Turks just acknowledge that certain people who have left their markers in your history weren't Turks?