Iran fumes as Pakistan embraces a Sunni Islamic Military Alliance

[haman10]

Iran fumes?!!! WTF?

Sunni alliance will include us, no doubt. As it seems, the op knows nothing about Muslims, maybe he needs to be reminded that Rashidun (ra) were four caliphs that one of them is first Imam of Shias.

BTW, it'll be great if Pakistan leads them. Iran would join with no doubt only if Pakistan leads the alliance.

There is no way to join an alliance that is being led by Ale-Saud monarchy that stained their hands to Muslim blood of Iraqis, Syrians, Yemenis and Libyans, but as i said, Pakistan leads, then we will join with pleasure

Iran will follow any Islamic alliance that is not led by a terrorist dictatorial backward state.

So this alliance has no value more than Zilch as you can see. they've achieved nothing and will achieve nothing

just a failed political move by saoodis

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Iran will follow any Islamic alliance that is not led by a terrorist dictatorial backward state.

So this alliance has no value more than Zilch as you can see. they've achieved nothing and will achieve nothing

just a failed political move by saoodis

Arabs are not blessed in IQ, but they have good heart. The only problem in the Middle East is the Saudi Dynasty. It needs to be abolished. They have used more than what they are worth. They have taken haq(rights) of everyday citizens.

 

[hussain0216]

Defend from whom?
Will you fight KSA's war in Yemen. You know how much of advanced weapons the KSA has from us and yet they can't even take on Yemen. Will Pakistan get involved in the Yemeni war? If not, I ask again- what's the mandate here?

Look at the U.S/allies, look at how much weapons they have, they have sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers and wasted over a TRILLION Dollars only for the Taliban to keep control over most of Afghanistan.
Weapons are not everything
The Saudis have no boots on the ground and are supporting a friendly faction against a hostile one

Pakistan has a defence treaty with Saudi and will defend them against hostile attack and invasion

Yemen however was their own clusterfcuk and we are not getting involved

It will take a few years for alliance to establish itself and build up troops, weapons etc.
Intially mandate will be to support member states against hostile terrorist groups

BUT underlying reason has always been to build up a multi state military alliance that is capable to defend 2 billion plus muslim world against enemies
Countries like Turkey, Pakistan, GCC, Indonesia, Egypt etc are beginning to build weapons, expand their military complexes and such a alliance will aim to support those expansions and provide financial and material support to make states stronger and provide support in times of war

 

[$@rJen]

• Why does everyone expect so much from Pakistan yet never gives pakistan any preference?
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• Why does everyone expect nothing from India yet gives India all the preference?

there's nothing called brotherhood as you people expect it to be... be it US or China or Sauds...
everyting is Business. if you can;t do it you're ignored till the other party needs you for something

 

[takeitwithyou]

Look at the U.S/allies, look at how much weapons they have, they have sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers and wasted over a TRILLION Dollars only for the Taliban to keep control over most of Afghanistan.
Weapons are not everything
The Saudis have no boots on the ground and are supporting a friendly faction against a hostile one

Pakistan has a defence treaty with Saudi and will defend them against hostile attack and invasion

Yemen however was their own clusterfcuk and we are not getting involved

It will take a few years for alliance to establish itself and build up troops, weapons etc.
Intially mandate will be to support member states against hostile terrorist groups

BUT underlying reason has always been to build up a multi state military alliance that is capable to defend 2 billion plus muslim world against enemies
Countries like Turkey, Pakistan, GCC, Indonesia, Egypt etc are beginning to build weapons, expand their military complexes and such a alliance will aim to support those expansions and provide financial and material support to make states stronger and provide support in times of war

We have money, and we don't sit idly by when our country gets attacked. We've forever changed the constitution of that country; we have permanent base and presence there now. You claim to be attacked by Afghanistan often, and your military has done what?

Learn how Afghanistan has given the U.S. the most strategic deep footprint in the Indo-Pacific region. https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/why-...-afghanistan-for-many-decades-or-ever.525323/



How can you claim to defend each other but have so many caveats? They were attacked by Yemen, and you say, no thank you for protecting them. Do you think if India strikes you, your multi-state faction will dare to interfere, or will they say 'oh this the same as Yemen excuse- your fight with India is your problem?

IMO- this is some hotchpotch scheme to enrich a few people under the guise of some alliance or what I've read you Gents call an umma.

 

[HAIDER]

The source is The Nation which merely LEARNT that too by mentioning unknown senior officials quoted as such and interestingly, Indian source did not miss chance to share the same immediately.

However, IMCTC has given the choice for members to participate per area of interest and Pakistan has clearly stated before to Iran that we will be not the part of any misadventure against Iran. Also, IMCTC is not against Iran but to counter terrorism.

Chief Editor of The Nation ... guess who she is ...

 

[hussain0216]

We have money, and we don't sit idly by when our country gets attacked. We've forever changed the constitution of that country; we have permanent base and presence there now. You claim to be attacked by Afghanistan often, and your military has done what?

Learn how Afghanistan has given the U.S. the most strategic deep footprint in the Indo-Pacific region.

You have considerably fcuked yourselves, wasted over a TRILLION all debt, sent in hundreds of thousands of soldiers only to withdraw them, ending up with the Taliban still running rough shot over most of Afghanistan, your base and presence is useless and expensive its why they are so frustrated and trying to get Pakistan to reign in the Taliban when we have repeatedly told them we no longer have any influence and most of Afghanistan is under Taliban control

We dont attack Afghanistan because we know what a clusterfcuk it will be and its easier letting the U.S drain itself trying to get a handle on a place that broke the back of everyone from Alexander to the British empire to the Soviets.

How can you claim to defend each other but have so many caveats? They were attacked by Yemen, and you say, no thank you for protecting them. Do you think if India strikes you, your multi-state faction will dare to interfere, or will they say 'oh this the same as Yemen excuse- your fight with India is your problem?

IMO- this is some hotchpotch scheme to enrich a few people under the guise of some alliance or what I've read you Gents call an umma.

Calm down its only the start it will take a couple of decade to really get going but every journey starts with one step

Remember muslim world is 50 plus nations, 1.7 billion and growing heading towards 2 billion population and soon to be the largest faith group of humanity

The resources are there they just need to be tapped

Do you think if India strikes you, your multi-state faction will dare to interfere,

We have 150 nuclear warheads and growing to wipe india clean off this world, but the alliance as it grows can certainly be used as a well of resources, finance, weapons political, monetary and actual military support

Pakistan is in prime position to utilise this alliance for our needs

 

[takeitwithyou]

You have considerably fcuked yourselves, wasted over a TRILLION all debt, sent in hundreds of thousands of soldiers only to withdraw them, ending up with the Taliban still running rough shot over most of Afghanistan, your base and presence is useless and expensive its why they are so frustrated and trying to get Pakistan to reign in the Taliban when we have repeatedly told them we no longer have any influence and most of Afghanistan is under Taliban control

We dont attack Afghanistan because we know what a clusterfcuk it will be and its easier letting the U.S drain itself trying to get a handle on a place that broke the back of everyone from Alexander to the British empire to the Soviets.



Calm down its only the start it will take a couple of decade to really get going but every journey starts with one step

Remember muslim world is 50 plus nations, 1.7 billion and growing heading towards 2 billion population and soon to be the largest faith group of humanity

The resources are there they just need to be tapped



We have 150 nuclear warheads and growing to wipe india clean off this world, but the alliance as it grows can certainly be used as a well of resources, finance, weapons political, monetary and actual military support

Pakistan is in prime position to utilise this alliance for our needs

We are in your and China/Iran backyard, and we are there to stay. You can satisfy yourself by calling it no presence of any worth, and we are mighty fine with it.

American history has shown we don't run away from a fight when we are attacked.

Do tell us how you strategic stay-behind-your-boundary plan is working for the safety and security of your country?

It's our trillions, don't fear we can afford it. What we can't afford is being the proverbial gutless and spineless little weaklings that ignore or fears some historical proverb when our people and country is attacked. That is the difference between being American and others. The lives of our citizens are not looked as expendable and cheap.

As to rest of this alliance, I've told you my impression.

 

[hussain0216]

We are in your and China/Iran backyard, and we are there to stay. You can satisfy yourself by calling it no presence of any worth, and we are mighty fine with it.

Yeah you screwed yourself bad, you wanted a strategic presence and instead you hot a money pit and a Taliban refusing to break

We don't run away from a fight

Vietnam!!

Tell us how you strategic stay behind your boundary plan working for the safety and security of your country?

Its working well, we have reduced terrorism from a high point from a decade ago to next to nothing where clowns try to target soft targets like schools.
The U.S itself lost near to 100 people to gunmen in October

It's our trillions, don't fear we can afford it.

No you cant

The lives of our citizens are not looked as expendable and cheap

Yes they are and you have a doofus for a president that has decimated American prestige and influence

 

[takeitwithyou]

Yeah you screwed yourself bad, you wanted a strategic presence and instead you hot a money pit and a Taliban refusing to break



Vietnam!!



Its working well, we have reduced terrorism from a high point from a decade ago to next to nothing where clowns try to target soft targets like schools.
The U.S itself lost near to 100 people to gunmen in October



No you cant



Yes they are and you have a doofus for a president that has decimated American prestige and influence

Vietnam, where we owned half or slightly more and hande it back to Vietnam. I know we can't expect you guys to known world history before you spit out words.

They are NOT harboring and attacking us in the U.S. mainland. And ones killing you are the snakes that have turned inward. Was not your military caught on video handling checks to the extremist just last week?

 

[mohsen]

We are in your and China/Iran backyard, and we are there to stay. You can satisfy yourself by calling it no presence of any worth, and we are mighty fine with it.

American history has shown we don't run away from a fight when we are attacked.

Do tell us how you strategic stay-behind-your-boundary plan is working for the safety and security of your country?

It's our trillions, don't fear we can afford it. What we can't afford is being the proverbial gutless and spineless little weaklings that ignore or fears some historical proverb when our people and country is attacked. That is the difference between being American and others. The lives of our citizens are not looked as expendable and cheap.

As to rest of this alliance, I've told you my impression.

nice words for those who don't know the history.
It was your own money and your own creation, the Al-Qaeda which killed your citizens. all of your trillions couldn't destroy Al-Qaeda, now it's branches are all over the world.

You supported Iraq dictator Saddam Hussain, yet in the end, he turned against you as well, then you entered a war with Iraq with the pretext of chemical weapons (which again you gave him yourself), yet the outcome was that the post Saddam Iraq became a close friend of Iran, then again you tried to overthrow this pro-Iran government in Iraq through your other creation, the ISIS, yet in the end, Iraq and Iran became strategic allies, all you did was to increase Iran's influence in Iraq to the extent that you can't still evaluate it's consequences.

in fact U.S is nothing but an example, best example of a country which lets it's citizen and soldiers being killed for nothing, and wastes trillions of dollars against itself while 14% of it's people live under poverty.
though your rich arms manufacturers became richer!

 

[takeitwithyou]

nice words for those who don't know the history.
It was your own money and your own creation, the Al-Qaeda which killed your citizens. all of your trillions couldn't destroy Al-Qaeda, now it's branches are all over the world.

You supported Iraq dictator Saddam Hussain, yet in the end, he turned against you as well, then you entered a war with Iraq with the pretext of chemical weapons (which again you gave him yourself), yet the outcome was that the post Saddam Iraq became a close friend of Iran, then again you tried to overthrow this pro-Iran government in Iraq through your other creation, the ISIS, yet in the end, Iraq and Iran became strategic allies, all you did was to increase Iran's influence in Iraq to the extent that you can't still evaluate it's consequences.

in fact U.S is nothing but an example, best example of a country which lets it's citizen and soldiers being killed for nothing, and wastes trillions of dollars against itself while 14% of it's people live under poverty.
though your rich arms manufacturers became richer!

gets boring. Was this supposed to be propaganda I would fall for? It's your own actions that got you heavily sanctioned and treated as a pariah state.

 

[Vijyes Yechury]

Defend from whom?
Will you fight KSA's war in Yemen. You know how much of advanced weapons the KSA has from us and yet they can't even take on Yemen. Will Pakistan get involved in the Yemeni war? If not, I ask again- what's the mandate here?

Look at the U.S/allies, look at how much weapons they have, they have sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers and wasted over a TRILLION Dollars only for the Taliban to keep control over most of Afghanistan.
Weapons are not everything
The Saudis have no boots on the ground and are supporting a friendly faction against a hostile one

Pakistan has a defence treaty with Saudi and will defend them against hostile attack and invasion

Yemen however was their own clusterfcuk and we are not getting involved

It will take a few years for alliance to establish itself and build up troops, weapons etc.
Intially mandate will be to support member states against hostile terrorist groups

BUT underlying reason has always been to build up a multi state military alliance that is capable to defend 2 billion plus muslim world against enemies
Countries like Turkey, Pakistan, GCC, Indonesia, Egypt etc are beginning to build weapons, expand their military complexes and such a alliance will aim to support those expansions and provide financial and material support to make states stronger and provide support in times of war

We are in your and China/Iran backyard, and we are there to stay. You can satisfy yourself by calling it no presence of any worth, and we are mighty fine with it.

American history has shown we don't run away from a fight when we are attacked.

Do tell us how you strategic stay-behind-your-boundary plan is working for the safety and security of your country?

It's our trillions, don't fear we can afford it. What we can't afford is being the proverbial gutless and spineless little weaklings that ignore or fears some historical proverb when our people and country is attacked. That is the difference between being American and others. The lives of our citizens are not looked as expendable and cheap.

As to rest of this alliance, I've told you my impression.

USA imports oil and is world power due to dollar being international currency. USA can arbitrarily print dollars and other countries will simply keep them as reserve.

USA can be made to fall on its knees with an alliance like this by eviction of USA bases and then selling oil in other currency. USA is not filled with superhumans. The only leverage USA has is that of food production. Most muslim countries are food deficit which means more than half the muslims will die if western countries don't supply food.

Don't overestimate yourself. If USA could make weapons, there is Turkey which is also beginning to make weapons. Pakistan has nukes and missiles. Saudi has oil. If food supply is arranged from elsewhere, USA is toast

 

[Serpentine]

Iran "fumes". Ok let's not go any further. It all looks like a fabricated piece drafted only to absorb more readers. It says Iran fumes while not quoting a single Iranian official conveying that so called 'fuming', just "learned" from some "sources".

 

[Well.wisher]

It's a misleading article , iran is a friendly country .