Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior US official

[WinterNights]

There's a reason why they keep taking hits from Israel over and over again in Syria and Iraq without responding. Because they know Israel is competent and during the same day they will announce culprits and retaliate.

It's very obvious why Iran is restraining the groups from attacking Israel. It does not want to give the USrealis the excuse to go all out. Iran is playing the long game. What's important to Iran is to establish these groups in Syria properly first. Once they're established like Hezbollah is in Lebanon, let's see Israelis try a strike then. Israelis will do everything it can to prevent that because it knows very well the danger of yet another Hezbollah like groups will be on it's border. Iran could easily get these groups to pound Israel hard in retaliation for these periods attacks, but that will not fit Iran's long term agenda. I thought as someone who follows these things closely, you would have realised this...

 

[El Sidd]

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I see your grasp of the English language is just as lousy as your grasp of reality!

probably.

but i guess you speak in Satans tongue fluently

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

probably.

but i guess you speak in Satans tongue fluently

So the English language is now "satanic" according to you? Keep spewing your crap here so that everyone can see exactly what you are!

 

[El Sidd]

So the English language is now "satanic" according to you? Keep spewing your crap here so that everyone can see exactly what you are!

Ask Great Satans big Brother infallible authority in Iran.

English is spoken in Britain and USA. How does it feel speaking Satan?

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Ask Great Satans big Brother infallible authority in Iran.

English is spoken in Britain and USA. How does it feel speaking Satan?

Were you dropped on your head as a child or were you born retarded?

 

[Falcon29]

It's very obvious why Iran is restraining the groups from attacking Israel. It does not want to give the USrealis the excuse to go all out. Iran is playing the long game. What's important to Iran is to establish these groups in Syria properly first. Once they're established like Hezbollah is in Lebanon, let's see Israelis try a strike then. Israelis will do everything it can to prevent that because it knows very well the danger of yet another Hezbollah like groups will be on it's border. Iran could easily get these groups to pound Israel hard in retaliation for these periods attacks, but that will not fit Iran's long term agenda. I though as someone who follows these things closely, you would have realised this...

Bottomline, you attack Saudi Arabia because you can, and there is no 'long game' for them. You can't attack Israel because they're competent and have reliable allies, so you call this 'long game'. You are keeping Hezbollah card incase of US strike on Iran. And in Syria you can't replicate Hezbollah, the whole local population is against you and will feed information to necessary channels. Let alone the obvious Israeli strikes to prevent that.

 

[El Sidd]

Were you dropped on your head as a child or were you born retarded?

that is a baseless accusation thrown time and time again.

Wanna watch football?

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

that is a baseless accusation thrown time and time again.

Wanna watch football?

Not with you!

 

[El Sidd]

Not with you!

Why not? Cyrus is playing

 

[Falcon29]

Now Saudis are claiming they restored production levels to pre-attack levels. Or something along those lines. By their statements, it appears clear they want to avoid implicating Iran. Which is setting a horrible precedent for their country and hurting their deterrence. Iranians called out Saudi bluff and took the risk. Question is what does US led alliance make of this. Will they take deescalation measures or draw new red lines or gear up for a military response, that is yet to be seen.

 

[WinterNights]

Bottomline, you attack Saudi Arabia because you can, and there is no 'long game' for them. You can't attack Israel because they're competent and have reliable allies, so you call this 'long game'. You are keeping Hezbollah card incase of US strike on Iran. And in Syria you can't replicate Hezbollah, the whole local population is against you and will feed information to necessary channels. Let alone the obvious Israeli strikes to prevent that.

Think of it this way. What will Iran gain by ordering it's Syrian groups to strike Israeli in retaliation? Now consider what will it lose? it's a simple calculation, Iran will gain more by not retaliating hard for the time being. The zionists are obviously more capable than the saudis, but they're also very vulnerable. They know the Hezbollah has factories producing missile in Lebanon, have they dared to attack them like they attack Syria?

A short term victory means little if you don't achieve your long term goals. Iran knows this. "Sabr" AKA patience is a very important virtue to Iranians.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Qassem is just a poster boy, lol.

He's still cool

 

[Falcon29]

Think of it this way. What will Iran gain by ordering it's Syrian groups to strike Israeli in retaliation? Now consider what will it lose? it's a simple calculation, Iran will gain more by not retaliating hard for the time being. The zionists are obviously more capable than the saudis, but they're also very vulnerable. They know the Hezbollah has factories producing missile in Lebanon, have they dared to attack them like they attack Syria?

A short term victory means little if you don't achieve your long term goals. Iran knows this. "Sabr" AKA patience is a very important virtue to Iranians.

Iran doesn't have a lot of patience. You are making it appear like Iran had nothing going its way. It has a big country with big resources. It has relations with various powers like Europe, India, China and Russia. It follows a sect that is strategic asset for the West/East as they use Shia and Jews(Israel) as obstacles in way of Sunni's to prevent formation of Sunni Caliphate. Hezbollah speeches are all about Arabs/Sunnis and they don't even care about Israel, neither does Iran. All Israel for them is a way to tarnish image of Arab Sunnis, nothing more. They have no reason to go to war with them or pose existential threat to them. They have plenty of will , resources and reasons to do the opposite against the Arabs.

A lot of things helped Iran, US war in Iraq and US/Russia intervention in Syria. Gulf Arab/Saudi passiveness and incompetence. US conflict with Sunni Islamists, much of Arab world recovering from war, etc.... Iran has been in a rush desperately spending propaganda in Arab world and working to manipulate things into their favor where they believe they can.

 

[WinterNights]

Iran doesn't have a lot of patience. You are making it appear like Iran had nothing going its way. It has a big country with big resources. It has relations with various powers like Europe, India, China and Russia. .

I think you've seriously missed the point of that comment. I am talking about why Iran has held back in retaliating against Israel. Other factors that played part are something else. Iran has always been smart and taken advantage of situations. It's not just about resources and allies, they're just another factor. Saudi arabia has resources and strong allies, yet it's on the opposite end of the competency level.

And yes, sabr is a huge important factor in Iran's policy. This is clear enough that morons in places like Hudson Institute have spotted and mentioned.

 

[Falcon29]

US is not going to do nothing, it will make defense treaty with Israel while Iran and Shia militias are invading Saudi Arabia. Then Iran/Shia/Jews/Foreign powers will be fighting alongside each other against Sunni Arabs in Egypt during the Sunni counterattack.

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