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Iran eager to import meat, livestock from Pakistan: envoy

We should create a Live Stock Market in Gawadar for Export to Iran
And use Chinese Banks in region to process the fun exchange at border

Livestock need land, water, proper diet and shelter. For halal meat export, we need state of art slaughter house and meat storage in Gwadar.

If PTI government can work on few things, they can bring Pakistan out of economic crisis.
Agriculture (new technology and promoting farming in Balochistan), Livestock, halal meat, IT and transportation (Buses, metroRail and Trains).
 
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Sir please don't make any bold statement if you don't have basic knowledge of topic.

Imran was idiot. Chicken is more complex then you think. World deal in Broiler Chicken raising few Desi Chicken in home will do nothing but raise cost.

Do you even have any idea how complex chicken is

Lol... Really so can you enlighten us how it was dumb idea or things you have mentioned are not manageable.

BTW

have you ever been to a Farm in Pakistan?
Have you ever been to a village in Pakistan?
Do you know the average farm size in Pakistan?
Do you know the average land holding by a farming family in Pakistan?
Do you know how milk is purchased and sold on farm?
Do you know how eggs are purchased and sold? I mean free range eggs (desi eggs) not control shed.

If you dont know about any of the above than do not comment or call out other people.

I know more about farms that you can imagine. You can call me a paindo. Not only that I know about control sheds for chickens in fact I rejected proposal to have one of my own.

So the idea of keeping chickens or other animals is not far fetched. Few years back many farmers were starting to reserve part of their land for keeping of buffalo calf for the whole purpose of growing it and selling it at markets for profit. Some people have over dozen of these calfs.

As the farms are small entity due to small land holding people utilise their farming land in many ways. They keeps chickens which roam freely in the fields all day and you can have dozens at a time. They keeps handful of goats or sheeps for the purpose of selling.

As for selling into GCCC or Iran well did I say that each individual farms should rock up to the border with their one chicken or one goat or dozen eggs? You need planning by GOP and you need investment by corporation or even government owned entity which can own abattoirs and than create a supply chain where they can purchase off the small time farms.

This occurs with milk as each small farmer sells maybe 2 or 3 litres of milk a day which is collected and processed either by small time milkman or by nestle or companies alike.

Livestock need land, water, proper diet and shelter. For halal meat export, we need state of art slaughter house and meat storage in Gwadar.

If PTI government can work on few things, they can bring Pakistan out of economic crisis.
Agriculture (new technology and promoting farming in Balochistan), Livestock, halal meat, IT and transportation (Buses, metroRail and Trains).

Water has been our problem, if we had water storage capacity in each of the provinces in addition to mega dams than we could cultivate large span of land and increase our overall farming production which could be enhanced with modern farming techniques.

As for the meat. yes of course we need state of the art slaughter houses and cold storage. However, what I have heard from many people in Saudi Arabia (I can be corrected on this) that they always get frozen meat and not fresh. (I can be corrected)

So our objective should be, in order to get market share, provide fresh meat. Ie slaughter today and within 24 to 36 hours have it on shelves at butcher shops. India supplies meat to GCCC but they cannot provide fresh whereas if we work toward it we can and that will allow us to get a foothold and also dominate the market.

Not just meat but also other aspect of meat ie we can provide halal raw material which goes into making of other items. This could include gelatin, bone marrows or other products that are derived from animals which are used into making or preserving food.

Late last year I was contact by a friend/client of mine who is into import/export business and he was approached by a Turkish company who needed intestine in particular 50-55 or 55-60 calibration. Apparently they wanted from Pakistan as well. I made few inquiries and spoke to few people but it was too much of hassle as there was no mechanisms in place to store and preserve these intestine. Than the people I spoke to seems to not care about it and I let it go.

But what it highlighted as how ignorant we are to use of other part of animal for other purposes.
 
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Have you ever owned a chicken? My family are farmers, we grow most of the food we eat (less so nowadays due to masti). Our village is a hamlet, maybe 30 homes at the most, yet 1 person still makes a full time living selling chicken in a village of farmers.

When IK was talking about families buying chickens the expectation was not for them to become new multipronged supply chain for KFC or Nandos, its so people who can only afford aloo, piyaz and roti can also once a month have chicken, or once a week have eggs.
You didn't answer the question. Your family live in village not everyone live near a field. How long it take to raise a chicken in home & at what cost? and how many chicken single home consume in a month???? How much money will you save from home grown chicken compared to buying egg from market???? You do understand its a chicken & not a solar panel? not only cost of meal but also mortality rate.
Most villagers have few chicken, goats and cows that is nothing new. What Imran khan has anything to do with it??? other then selling people subsidies chicken when country don't have money to run its day to day business.

Lol... Really so can you enlighten us how it was dumb idea or things you have mentioned are not manageable.
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This occurs with milk as each small farmer sells maybe 2 or 3 litres of milk a day which is collected and processed either by small time milkman or by nestle or companies alike.
If they are already doing this why they need subsidies chicken for???
I know how exactly some raise their fake desi chicken.
You are mixing 2 thing. Smaller farmer can't compete nor can export only corporate sector can. Reason economy of scale. Although their own cost is higher compared to world standard.
I might not have details of smaller farmer but i do know about big players which matter. People mostly don't buy expensive desi they buy broiler chicken.
 
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You didn't answer the question. Your family live in village not everyone live near a field. How long it take to raise a chicken in home & at what cost? and how many chicken single home consume in a month???? How much money will you save from home grown chicken compared to buying egg from market???? You do understand its a chicken & not a solar panel? not only cost of meal but also mortality rate.
Most villagers have few chicken, goats and cows that is nothing new. What Imran khan has anything to do with it??? other then selling people subsidies chicken when country don't have money to run its day to day business.

I can tell you the cost in the UK, i can't tell you the cost in Pakistan. In the UK a chicken grows to adult size in less than 3 months. You only need to feed it a bit of grain, or left over fruit, veg, etc. You can literally feed them on left overs. not meat or spicy, fatty foods.

of course you need a bit of space, you cant keep a chicken in you apartment, but of you have a garden, you'll be fine.
 
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a) Iran can't pay for it because they are under sanctions. Overall trade with Iran has declined considerably in recent years because of sanctions

b) We can't afford it either because we are a water scarce country and livestock takes up a lot of water. We must promote some other sector of our economy and not this one.
 
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Eager, keen, interested.

@AZADPAKISTAN2009, you post the most hopeless news everyday.

Why don't you ever post something that has actually achieved fruition instead of Good Days Will Come.
 
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Well Live Stock trade to Iran is not hopeless, we can generate 100 million to 200 million dollar , in term of barter trade if Pakistan sets up a Live Stock Market near Iran/Pakistan border

We can just import Oil , from Iran or Petroleum Products , to off set our large Petrol bill

Barter Trade
  • We spend around 10-15 Billion on Petrol/Gas Purchase
  • If we can reduce our bill by 5-7 Billion Dollars it would be ideal

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The following product groups represent the highest dollar value in Pakistan’s import purchases during 2018. Also shown is the percentage share each product category represents in terms of overall imports into Pakistan.

  1. Mineral fuels including oil: US$17.1 billion (28.4% of total imports)
  2. Machinery including computers: $6.3 billion (10.4%)
  3. Electrical machinery, equipment: $4.3 billion (7.2%)
  4. Iron, steel: $3.7 billion (6.1%)
  5. Organic chemicals: $2.8 billion (4.6%)
  6. Vehicles: $2.6 billion (4.3%)
  7. Plastics, plastic articles: $2.5 billion (4.1%)
  8. Animal/vegetable fats, oils, waxes: $2.1 billion (3.5%)
  9. Oil seeds: $1.5 billion (2.4%)
  10. Cotton: $1.3 billion (2.1%)


Pakistan-Iran had decent barter trade during Musharaf's Time
 
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Finally some sense prevails

Imagine if instead of conquering Afghanistan, We had made a Mega Dry port on outskirts of Peshawar and Quetta exclusively for Afghanistan and Made another twins in Kabul and Kandhar. With 3 Lane Commercial Highways connecting Kabul Dry port to Peshawar Dry port and Quetta Dry port to Kandhar Dry port. Giving Exclusive Access to Afghan Businessmen to Karachi port. Meanwhile in Return Connected Peshawar with Central Asian States via Afghanistan through Highways and Rail Roads.Similarly Quetta to Zahedan(Iran) Super highway and Trade Route. If we had done this during the 90s what would have been the situation today?.
Western Pakistan would have been a developed region with Industrial and Trade hubs Connecting Pakistan with Central Asia and Middle East through KPK and Baluchistan. Instead of Leasing half of the country to Chinese :(
Sad thing is even today people of Pakistan don't have a clue that Business and Trade is the Real power of modern age. the more Business and Trade you do the more power full you are. Its not even Late today. Start Fresh and start these projects. Instead of Bankrupting Pakistan while fulfilling Lust of Citizen of Developed cities for Imported Goods Spend some money in Developing the Western side by connecting those areas to the Western Side countries.
But nobody will listen
Nah, still gonna conquer Afghanistan
 
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