Iran confirms possesing 4 S-300 PT systems

[razgriz19]

lol russia would be like " i told u not to tell anyone now no more s-300s for u!"

 

[Jigs]

Do you really think they are going to bomb the bomb? I mean these enrichment facilities are pretty low tech and decentralized. I doubt pure air strikes can stop Iran from getting the bomb and arms control guys from the New America Foundation says so too.

Joshua Pollack • On Bombing the Bomb

And what about the fact that Turkey has closed its airspace to Israeli Jets.


Turkey curtails Israeli military overflights - By Tom Ricks | The Best Defense

They will take the Saudi route most likely since we have moved SAMs on our border with Syria.

 

[CardSharp]

They will take the Saudi route most likely since we have moved SAMs on our border with Syria.

Like the Saudi will let Israel fly over ... I don't know the state of Saudi air defence but the Israeli jets will need to take on fuel mid-air for the mission so they can't be that hard to shoot down.

 

[Jigs]

Like the Saudi will let Israel fly over ... I don't know the state of Saudi air defence but the Israeli jets will need to take on fuel mid-air for the mission so they can't be that hard to shoot down.

Another issue would be the aircraft. The most logical choice would be the F-15Is(they have 24 of these) they would have the conformal tanks and drop tanks to do a full ferry to Arak which is irans heavy water production plant and hit that and maybe Ahvaz i think they might be able to make it to Natanz which is the big one that enriches their uranium. They would not have much to carry for ordinance though maybe a couple GBU-10s. The GBU-28 would be the most ideal since they are 5,000 pound bunker busters. Their F-16s would need refueling points.

 

[1000VA]

Belarus denies sales of S-300 air defense systems to Iran

The Belarusian government denied on Wednesday rumors that Minsk had allegedly sold S-300 air defense systems to Iran.

The Associated Press earlier cited the Iranian semi-official news agency Fars as saying that Iran had acquired two S-300PT (SA-10 Grumble) systems from Belarus and two more systems from an unidentified supplier. Iranian officials have not confirmed the fact so far.

"The State Military-Industrial Committee can officially state that Belarus has never held talks with Iran on the deliveries of the S-300 air defense systems," committee's spokesman Vladimir Lavrenyuk told RIA Novosti.

"Belarus has never supplied S-300 systems or their components to Iran," he said, adding that Minsk strictly complied with international arms control regulations.

Jane's Defense Systems News reported as far back as in January 2008 that Tehran was in the final stages of negotiations with Belarus for the acquisition of two surplus trailer-mounted towed S-300PT systems.

These outdated systems were deployed near Minsk and Belarus allegedly asked $140 mln for the two systems (including parts, maintenance and training).

The actual sale has never been confirmed. Belarus has no right to resell air defense systems supplied by the Soviet Union and later the Russian Federation.

Russia signed a contract on supplying Iran with at least five S-300 systems in December 2005, but the contract's implementation has so far been delayed.

On June 9, the UN Security Council passed Resolution 1929 imposing a fourth set of sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program, including tougher financial controls and an expanded arms embargo.

The sale of S-300 air defense systems is believed to fall under the sanctions, though earlier Russia said the delivery would not be affected since the weapons are not included in the UN Register of Conventional Arms.

The S-300 PT is capable of shooting down aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missile warheads at ranges of over 90 miles (144 kilometers) and at altitudes of about 90,000 feet (27,432 meters).

MINSK, August 4 (RIA Novosti)

 

[Thomas]

Like the Saudi will let Israel fly over ... I don't know the state of Saudi air defence but the Israeli jets will need to take on fuel mid-air for the mission so they can't be that hard to shoot down.

your assuming that it is the Israeli's that strike first. What if it is the U.S.? And even if it is Israel that strikes they can hit the northern most targets with SLCM's (submarine launched cruise missiles) Their Popeye missile supposedly has a range of around 1500 km. And is reportedly able to not only carry a conventional warhead but a nuke tip as well.

Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran - Times Online

"Three German-built Israeli submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles are to be deployed in the Gulf near the Iranian coastline."

 

[CardSharp]

your assuming that it is the Israeli's that strike first. What if it is the U.S.? And even if it is Israel that strikes they can hit the northern most targets with SLCM's (submarine launched cruise missiles) Their Popeye missile supposedly has a range of around 1500 km. And is reportedly able to not only carry a conventional warhead but a nuke tip as well.

Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran - Times Online

"Three German-built Israeli submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles are to be deployed in the Gulf near the Iranian coastline."

Your analysis is a bit too hawkish and gung ho for it to be quite convincing. Every scenario you dream up leads to open conflict.

 

[T-Rex]

In my opinion a combination of giving sanctions a chance to work in order to appease other countries. And at the same time preparing the Gulf countries defenses for any possible Iranian counter attacks.

Look at what has taken place since even Obama took office. Israel has received an early warning radar capable of seeing all missile launches, as well as Aircraft take off and landings in about 80% of Iran. The U.S. sixth fleet now has a permanent duty station off Lebanon. This is to provide another layer of missile defense to Israel and Europe. The Gulf countries have received major missile defense upgrades as well. Large stocks of smart munitions, and naval missiles have been pre-positioned at Diego Garcia.

Sanctions have also gained more support from some that were totally against them before. Sooner or later though it will become evident to all. That most likely Iran will not give into sanctions and that the military option is the only action left. Also with the draw down of troops in Iraq. Those troops will no longer be vulnerable to Iranian attack either by proxy or direct attack.

I say the whole drama is a bluff. Sanctions don't work against Iran, recent history tells us that and so, there is no question of giving time for the sanction to work. Talking of appeasing others, since when did Washington care about what the world thinks ? The truth is, Israel and the US know what the conseqence of attacking Iran will be and they are scared **** !