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Iran completes indigenous missile system Bavar-373

"stated" yes iran suddenly has a s-300 equivalent the moment they find out russia isnt gonna supply them with the s-300 lol
and infact i has posted about the whole s-300 equivalent before. i have stated in a past thread that its very possible for iran have a system better than the initial s-300, but equivalent or superior to one of the lastest like the s-300pmu2? yea.. no, you can have good scientist and engineers but i refuse to believe iran has magically scientists and engineers.

OTH radars are stationary and will be the first things targeted.

You are just claiming things without any substantial evidence to back your claims. No one cares about your theory, you need to back your claims with evidence.

You seem to have problems with rational thinking. Russia refused to deliver the s-300 as far back as 2008, and Iran successfully tested the bavar-373 for the first time in 2014and it will not be ready till 2016. You must be quite bad at mathematics to confuse 2008 with 2016. Iran never claimed to have s-300 when Russians refused to deliver s-300, when did Iran claim to have s-300 in 2008?
Either do some basic research or don't comment at all. That way, you wont come across as a 10 year old troll.

Furthermore, bavar-373 was stated to be more advance than s-300 by the air defence commander, whose words mean more in this matter than some wannabe expert living in the Us. Also, when pictures of bavar were leaked, one could see a poster comparing bavar-373 to s-300pmu2 which is the most advance of s-300 family. Now, one does not have to be genius to figure out it was pmu2 s-300 they were comparing bavar to all this time and not some older version. The poster was too blurry to make out the details, this was not an exhibition for the public, once bavar is officially unveiled then the full details will be released.

In all honesty, you need to develop some more rational thinking capability and also attempt to alteast back your statements with some sort of facts. Your empty statements do nothing but waste thread space.
 
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You are just claiming things without any substantial evidence to back your claims. No one cares about your theory, you need to back your claims with evidence.

You seem to have problems with rational thinking. Russia refused to deliver the s-300 as far back as 2008, and Iran successfully tested the bavar-373 for the first time in 2014and it will not be ready till 2016. You must be quite bad at mathematics to confuse 2008 with 2016. Iran never claimed to have s-300 when Russians refused to deliver s-300, when did Iran claim to have s-300 in 2008?
Either do some basic research or don't comment at all. That way, you wont come across as a 10 year old troll.

Furthermore, bavar-373 was stated to be more advance than s-300 by the air defence commander, whose words mean more in this matter than some wannabe expert living in the Us. Also, when pictures of bavar were leaked, one could see a poster comparing bavar-373 to s-300pmu2 which is the most advance of s-300 family. Now, one does not have to be genius to figure out it was pmu2 s-300 they were comparing bavar to all this time and not some older version. The poster was too blurry to make out the details, this was not a exhibitions the public, one the bavar is officially unveiled then the full details will be released.

In all honesty, you need to develop some more rational thinking capability and also attempt to alteast back your statements with some sort of facts. Your empty statements do nothing but waste thread space.
you might have us Detailed card, comparing bavar373 S-300PMU2?
 
you might have us Detailed card, comparing bavar373 S-300PMU2?

It was posted, it was possible to make out it was showing bavar-373 and s-300pmu2 comparison but the detail could not be seem. Once bavar is officially unveiled we will see the info.
 
It was posted, it was possible to make out it was showing bavar-373 and s-300pmu2 comparison but the detail could not be seem. Once bavar is officially unveiled we will see the info.
you said would not be released until 2016, the General had said in 2015. you could have the image of comapraison? I not find
 
IMHO, Iran should continue developing this indigenous missile defense system, mass produce when it is confident it is ready, but should never reveal or unveil of its details under the current conditions. An export version should also be created for those friendly nations who want to pay for it. Maasha'Allah, the progress in Iran is wonderful.
 
IMHO, Iran should continue developing this indigenous missile defense system, mass produce when it is confident it is ready, but should never reveal or unveil of its details under the current conditions. An export version should also be created for those friendly nations who want to pay for it. Maasha'Allah, the progress in Iran is wonderful.

On the contrary, Iran should give a lower capacity this system, for example, that the system is covered 200km, while it would make 250. (a esemple) must be hidden the true capacity.

by cons for the export version, I do not know if iran and touched by the export of military equipment sale.

his would be good if Iran can be exported materiel.notre economy will be diversified, and out of the embargo, and the dependence of hydaucarbure.
 
You are just claiming things without any substantial evidence to back your claims. No one cares about your theory, you need to back your claims with evidence.

You seem to have problems with rational thinking. Russia refused to deliver the s-300 as far back as 2008, and Iran successfully tested the bavar-373 for the first time in 2014and it will not be ready till 2016. You must be quite bad at mathematics to confuse 2008 with 2016. Iran never claimed to have s-300 when Russians refused to deliver s-300, when did Iran claim to have s-300 in 2008?
Either do some basic research or don't comment at all. That way, you wont come across as a 10 year old troll.

and where are your proofs? all you have is "iran claims this, stated that" yet it has shown nothing, considering their claims with things like the f-313 and s-300 equivalents, i take any claims by the iranian media/govenment with a huge pile of salt.

in addition i never, at any point, said iran claimed to have the s-300, i said iran claimed to have an s-300 equivalent. which i already stated is possible if they are talking about an earlier s-300, not no way does iran have an equivalent system to the later s-300 models. i am not interested in rehashing the reasons why all over again.

and you claimed 2008 and 2016 dates makes no sense, yet you fail to see that while the deal was signed in 2007/2008, russia dragged its feet using various excuses until 2010 which it stated that because of the UNSC sanctions it cannot export to iran. and not even a year after the formal refusal to provide the s-300, iran in 2011 claims it would "soon" product the bavar 373 system. before stating im bad at math, go take a look in the mirror at yourself first

Furthermore, bavar-373 was stated to be more advance than s-300 by the air defence commander, whose words mean more in this matter than some wannabe expert living in the Us. Also, when pictures of bavar were leaked, one could see a poster comparing bavar-373 to s-300pmu2 which is the most advance of s-300 family. Now, one does not have to be genius to figure out it was pmu2 s-300 they were comparing bavar to all this time and not some older version. The poster was too blurry to make out the details, this was not an exhibition for the public, once bavar is officially unveiled then the full details will be released.

again with unnamed commanders, blurry posters and details "released soon", is there photoshopped launched pictures too? maybe a video of the super weapon said to be already working?. what were you expecting a iranian commander to say about an iranian system? that its terrible? that it doesnt actually exist? the russians claim they can detect the f-22 at long range with no problem and the su-35 can take down the f-35 without problems, does that make it true? Lockheed martin claims many things too, including that the f-35 will be as cheap as the f-16 to operates, we all know how true that is. fact is iran does not have the track record to show that they can match the s-300pmu2, if iran could match the s-300 pmu2 so easily in a mere handful of years then the s-300pmu2 wouldnt be such a formidable system(as its universally acclaimed to be), to this day, nations much richer and more industrialized than iran still has troubles or is just now matching the s-300pmu2 capabilities, nations like japan, china, india. in the case of india and china, they literally has the system to take apart as they please yet china is only now starting to match and exceed it and india still does not have anything to match it

unlike outrageous claims made by fanboys or unreliable media(which we can dismiss), those fake claims are routinely made supposed reliable news media in iran such as fars news. which means we simply cannot take those claims at face value.

In all honesty, you need to develop some more rational thinking capability and also attempt to alteast back your statements with some sort of facts. Your empty statements do nothing but waste thread space.

yea certainly some rational thinking could be used in this thread, ill just go ahead and dissagree with you about who needs it.

Not this baby:

Keyhan long range radar is a multi frequency 2d OTH. It is capable of detecting missiles and low RCS planes. It is also mobile.

very well.see something like this i would not dispute, unlike claims of matching or surpassing the s-300 pmu2 in a mere handful of years.
 
and where are your proofs? all you have is "iran claims this, stated that" yet it has shown nothing, considering their claims with things like the f-313 and s-300 equivalents, i take any claims by the iranian media/govenment with a huge pile of salt.

in addition i never, at any point, said iran claimed to have the s-300, i said iran claimed to have an s-300 equivalent. which i already stated is possible if they are talking about an earlier s-300, not no way does iran have an equivalent system to the later s-300 models. i am not interested in rehashing the reasons why all over again.

and you claimed 2008 and 2016 dates makes no sense, yet you fail to see that while the deal was signed in 2007/2008, russia dragged its feet using various excuses until 2010 which it stated that because of the UNSC sanctions it cannot export to iran. and not even a year after the formal refusal to provide the s-300, iran in 2011 claims it would "soon" product the bavar 373 system. before stating im bad at math, go take a look in the mirror at yourself first.
you got point there .
but when the time comes you be the first person i be show evidence .

for now you got point

the photoshopped got nothing to do with Iran . neither the Iranian government or media made such photoshopped .
but i understand science you have no other excuses you need to use it to do your propaganda
 
f35? lol try to finish it, come to speak harsh, which tells you that Iran is working alone? russia and especially China, support iran, and stop overinflate your army, and unable to attack one country, we must use an embargo followed by a massive attack, 50 countries against one.
but against iran you nothing will threaten your interest and your power will weaken

but hey, I admit that I would love to see bavar 373, the PMU2 and redoutable.fabriqué an equivalent weapon is not given to everyone. even china can not very well.

the f-35 is closer to being "finished" than any other sealth project currently in development
russia and china certainly do not wish to see war but they are not going to bleed for iran.
and what do you mean by "
unable to attack one country, we must use an embargo followed by a massive attack, 50 countries against one.
but against iran you nothing will threaten your interest and your power will weaken"

im not sure what you're saying there...

are you using google translate?

you got point there .
but when the time comes you be the first person i be show evidence .

for now you got point


the photoshopped got nothing to do with Iran . neither the Iranian government or media made such photoshopped .
but i understand science you have no other excuses you need to use it to do your propaganda

again i have nothing against iran, i would love to be proven wrong, if iran shows it has currently in service some of the best anti-air in the world, well more power to em. i am merely stating my own opinions that its is unlikely at this moment.

at least the pic of the missile launch is a proven photoshop that was first posted by Sepah News, the media arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard. so it has everything to do with the iranian government and media. so whos giving excuses and promoting propaganda?
 
applesauce not wrong, we have no evidence of the existence, QAHER313 and we have no evidence that the BAVAR373 and powerful system. we must wait and see a faith that the system will OPERATIONAL.
we can not say as nosu have not seen. produced an extremely powerful system in a short time, while other countries are the problem seems suspect.


me anyway I prefer the embargo am risen, and that Iran buys Su-35, s-300/400 .on be about to have a credible defense. but in the meantime we can not claim to have large system while we have seen nothing.

we must accept the criticism my brother, who accept criticism comes in advance, as those who refuse certain country will never move forward ... and he will believe that he is powerful.

I hope these are the project seriously, and not one has the choice to wait, we can not say that the bavar and higher S-300PMU2 and that a formidable system.

say the Qaher and a super aircraft, while the HESA Saeqeh and lower generation, its been a great leap forward.

it's like I told the American build the F-22, and it is a bombrdier F-5 is not logical leap of technology and huge.

or that it is the Russian T-50 and bomb them and Su-7.

so the Qaher and be a fake airplanes, be a lower generation fighter but with a disigne 5G.

the f-35 is closer to being "finished" than any other sealth project currently in development
russia and china certainly do not wish to see war but they are not going to bleed for iran.
and what do you mean by "
unable to attack one country, we must use an embargo followed by a massive attack, 50 countries against one.
but against iran you nothing will threaten your interest and your power will weaken"

im not sure what you're saying there...

are you using google translate?



again i have nothing against iran, i would love to be proven wrong, if iran shows it has currently in service some of the best anti-air in the world, well more power to em. i am merely stating my own opinions that its is unlikely at this moment.

at least the pic of the missile launch is a proven photoshop that was first posted by Sepah News, the media arm of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard. so it has everything to do with the iranian government and media. so whos giving excuses and promoting propaganda?
the american are unable attacked iran.il have more to lose than win.

yes utilsie American embargo, and attacks with other country.This are loose.

yes I use google translate.
 
again i have nothing against iran, i would love to be proven wrong, if iran shows it has currently in service some of the best anti-air in the world, well more power to em. i am merely stating my own opinions that its is unlikely at this moment.
who cares whether you got something against Iran or not .
like i said you got point in what you say for now .
all was saying your point it is short lived . and you can only go on for so long .

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at least the pic of the missile launch is a proven photoshop that was first posted by Sepah News, ?
more BS . that missile launch was not fake . the missile look off late then others .
like i told you since you have no more excuses you need to come up with BS and none sense to father your propaganda .
we have been launching missiles since then so many times .so we did not fake it or lied or trying to deceive anybody .
but for you it is nice little propaganda pice to come here and write your none sense .

look at BBC and learn how to do the propaganda better . is best for you to learn from the master of propaganda
BBC news analysis on Iran ballistic missiles capabilities and quantities

and now look at reality
 
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