Iran Closing Technology Gap With Israel, Military Intelligence Chief Warns

[Serpentine]

Iranian soldiers operate a drone during a military exercise ---AFP


The Military Intelligence chief said Israel and Iran are engaged in a technology war in which the Islamic Republic is rapidly narrowing the quality gap.
Maj. Gen. Herzl Halevi, speaking at a closed lecture Thursday, added that if the anxiety generated by the videos of Palestinians stabbing Israelis on social media had existed in 1948, Israel would not have won the War of Independence.
He also revealed that recently, MI abandoned an operation at the last minute because of a letter the corps received from a low-ranking officer in its 8200 signals intelligence unit.
Halevi was speaking to a few dozen donors and faculty members of the College of Management at the Rothchild Bank in Tel Aviv. It was an uncharacteristic appearance for Halevi, who in the year since he succeeded Aviv Kochavi has maintained a low profile.
The general did not give a detailed intelligence assessment but delivered remarks that had never been made in public by a top officer in the Israel Defense Forces.
“If you ask me whether we’ll have a war with Iran over the next 10 years, I’ll give you a surprising answer: We are already at war with Iran,” Halevi said. “We’re having a technological war with Iran. Our engineers are fighting Iranian engineers, today, and it’s becoming increasingly significant.”

The war, he said, was over intelligence, weapons and military capabilities, and Halevi was pessimistic. “Today we have the advantage. Iran is closing in on it. Since the 1979 revolution, the number of universities and university students in Iran has increased twentyfold, compared with three and a half times for Israel,” Halevi said, adding that enrollment in science, technology, engineering and math in Iran was skyrocketing.
Halevi touched on the current wave of terror attacks and the difference between the country’s past wars, conducted mainly in border areas, and today’s wars, in which the home front suffers many casualties.
“The next war will be much worse for the home front,” Halevi said. “In the Yom Kippur War there was one home-front casualty; a FROG missile struck the pilots’ quarters of the Ramat David air base. It was the only casualty on the home front. All the rest were military.”
He said a main issue in today’s wars was awareness. “It’s not about how many you killed and how many the other side killed, and it’s not about how far you got and where you planted your flag. It’s about the story that the war tells,” he said.
“All of us, including me and each of you, have for the past month been brainwashing ourselves when we watch those stabbing videos over and over, creating a level of anxiety that, had everyone in the War of Independence been watching the videos of Latrun, San Simon or Nitzanim, it’s not sure we would have been able to keep going.”
Halevi said it was much harder for MI to develop and retain intelligence sources today than a decade or two ago due to rapid technological change. “The same kilogram of intelligence costs much more than it did 10 years ago. Not only does it cost more, its expiration date is significantly sooner,” he said.
“Twenty years ago you had an intelligence accomplishment and you were set for the next five to seven years. Today you might have worked really hard, risking people’s lives, carrying out all sorts of maneuvers. You got something, but with the speed at which our world operates and the speed at which technology changes,” the expiry time declines.
To illustrate this point, the MI chief described efforts to collect intelligence about the Islamic State. He encouraged his audience to not be fooled by the dreadlocks and traditional robes of ISIS operatives. “They use the most cutting-edge technology,” he said. “It’s not carrier pigeons, it’s the most advanced communication systems, with the best encryption on top of that. It changes every couple of days.”
He said MI’s organizational culture was such that even soldiers and junior officers could have great influence. “We faced a dilemma over whether to carry out a particular operation in a particular place. It was about to go up to the chief of staff for a decision, and we needed to decide whether to do it or not,” he said.
“An officer enters my office and says, ‘Listen, I want you to read this, it’s a letter from a first lieutenant, a network intelligence officer at a Unit 8200 base.’ He’s a first lieutenant. He writes a letter to the Unit 8200 commander and to the head of MI: ‘Listen, I think you’re making a mistake,’” Halevi said.
“It's just five minutes before decision time. I might not have read the letter if it arrived one minute later, before the talk with the chief of staff. That’s the ability of people to make an impact at the most critical second of decision-making.”
Halevi defended the standing army against recent criticism about the size of the defense budget. “There’s a bit of an atmosphere in the country today — maybe you don’t think so — but the officers feel that’s it not so positive toward the army,” he said.
“I think this is dangerous. I think it comes a bit from the place of the budget. Officers tell me strangers sometimes stop them on the street saying we’re the problem of the Israeli economy. I’d be cautious. It’s better that the best people are involved — in security in general and intelligence in particular.”
Halevi said he even feared the elimination of mandatory military service in Israel. “The quiet depends on our being strong, and my fear is that we will end the model of a people’s army, and then the IDF won’t accept all of Israeli youth into its ranks and won’t take advantage of the best people,” he said.
“If we change the model of the people’s army, then in the first two or three years inertia will keep us going, but after that the entire defense establishment will be damaged to the point of damage to the state’s security.”

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[Aramagedon]

Very good.

 

[FunkyGen]

This is how you fight!
Not by strapping a bomb on your body!
Idiot arabic jihadis and viva la IRAN!

 

[BordoEnes]

Absolute BS claim. As of right now there is not a single country that can be comparable against Israel in terms of military technology and hardware. Thats the harsh reality of the situation.

 

[Djinn]

Absolute BS claim. As of right now there is not a single country that can be comparable against Israel in terms of military technology and hardware. Thats the harsh reality of the situation.

Quite an 'Over statement'-------------People generally like to consider Western tech to be superior, solely based on their subjective assessment + Western media's generous hyperbole effect. Unless someone can prove that the American and it's allies tech is based on some alien tech, i wouldn't be impressed by these false notions.

 

[BordoEnes]

Quite an 'Over statement'-------------People generally like to consider Western tech to be superior, solely based on their subjective assessment + Western media's generous hyperbole effect. Unless some can prove that American and it's allies tech is based on some alien tech, i wouldn't be impressed by these false notions.

People also generally base their opinions on their ethnicity, religion, culture, morale values, pride and etc. When you bypass these, you will see the harsh reality where Israel is a leading manufracturer and producer of high tech battle proven weapons. No country in the region can be compared to them .... yet.

 

[Djinn]

People also generally base their opinions on their ethnicity, religion, culture, morale values, pride and etc. When you bypass these, you will see the harsh reality where Israel is a leading manufracturer and producer of high tech battle proven weapons. No country in the region can be compared to them .... yet.

Tell me what has Israel developed indigenously that is battle proven and how do you know its superior over its counterparts from across the world. BTW bare in mind that assaulting defenseless communities with bombs and missiles is no battle.

 

[21 Dec 2012]

Iran is starting from a very low base, so even minor improvement show a drastic change relatively. However they are still minor.

 

[nomi007]

joke of the year

 

[Serpentine]

Absolute BS claim. As of right now there is not a single country that can be comparable against Israel in terms of military technology and hardware. Thats the harsh reality of the situation.

Yes, because you are more credible than Israel's military intelligence chief about assessing Israel enemy's capabilities.

besides, Israel has had massive financial and technological help from U.S since 40 years ago, kind of helps that many armies around the world would only dream of, so this is not exactly a fair competition.

 

[haman10]

"We're already at war with Iran"

Already at war by barking for 30 years that you will destroy each other all while committing genocide against Sunni's with American approval and cooperation in Iraq and Syria. Move along people, this is just another play in the act. Israel, Iran and US are playing very sneaky game here. They want Sunni's to believe they're enemies all while employing Iran and Shia to commit genocide against Sunni's and alter the demographics in the region in favor of minority Shia. We don't buy their bullshit games. This is a sick game being played, every time Shia's commit massive abuses an Israeli general comes out and says Iran is our supreme enemy, blah blah. To continue allowing Shia's their excuse to kill 'Sunni agents of Israel' all while they never fire a single bullet at each other.

@JUBA

well you're the one to talk . who would give a shit about palestine if it wasn't for Iran ? you know what they say , you're the Dog that bites the hand thats feeding him .

The food that your people are eating today in Gaza are provided by the same Shia Iranians . their weapons are all Iranian and the only one standing between Israel bending over the same sunni people and flattening them to the ground is Iran .

tell me what does Gaza export ? how do you guys make money ?

oh my . poor Iran .

your cousins in palestine are eating rafidha food BTW . tell them to stop , it's haram .

back to your sectarian part of comment :

Kill sunnis ? why would any sane mind try to kill the sunnis ? what do you have thats precious enough for Iran-Israel-US to join hands covertly too fool you and kill you by it ?

do you guys produce some sort of advanced high-tech weapon, drug ? do you have a technology that we all eye ?

meanwhile this shia muslim was martyred for the same reason :

Majid Shahriari - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and many more like him . why ? cause they were valuable .

what do you guys have ? NOTHING . you're worthless .

joke of the year

We didn't say this joke . it's their word .

we let you guys take over and fight the good cause

here comes the stronk muslims

 

[BordoEnes]

Yes, because you are more credible than Israel's military intelligence chief about assessing Israel enemy's capabilities.

besides, Israel has had massive financial and technological help from U.S since 40 years ago, kind of helps that many armies around the world would only dream of, so this is not exactly a fair competition.

This seems more like mind games to me. Not the first time they fueled suspicion and convinced the world of a non-existing WMD in Iraq. Are you convinced that Iran is close or is getting close to Israel in terms of high end technology and weaponry?

 

[Azizam]

It's just a tactic to receive more funds for their military programmes.

 

[Serpentine]

This seems more like mind games to me. Not the first time they fueled suspicion and convinced the world of a non-existing WMD in Iraq. Are you convinced that Iran is close or is getting close to Israel in terms of high end technology and weaponry?

Iran is 'close' to Israel in terms of military technology? Considering huge help they get and that they started decades before us, we still have enough way ahead.

But are we closing the gap? Yes we are, I believe we are, of course not in all fields, but areas we are mostly focused on, and with a good speed: UAVs, Air defense systems, missile systems, electronic warfare, cyber warfare, etc.

 

[Kiarash]

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Iranian soldiers operate a drone during a military exercise ---AFP


The Military Intelligence chief said Israel and Iran are engaged in a technology war in which the Islamic Republic is rapidly narrowing the quality gap.
Maj. Gen. Herzl Halevi, speaking at a closed lecture Thursday, added that if the anxiety generated by the videos of Palestinians stabbing Israelis on social media had existed in 1948, Israel would not have won the War of Independence.
He also revealed that recently, MI abandoned an operation at the last minute because of a letter the corps received from a low-ranking officer in its 8200 signals intelligence unit.
Halevi was speaking to a few dozen donors and faculty members of the College of Management at the Rothchild Bank in Tel Aviv. It was an uncharacteristic appearance for Halevi, who in the year since he succeeded Aviv Kochavi has maintained a low profile.
The general did not give a detailed intelligence assessment but delivered remarks that had never been made in public by a top officer in the Israel Defense Forces.
“If you ask me whether we’ll have a war with Iran over the next 10 years, I’ll give you a surprising answer: We are already at war with Iran,” Halevi said. “We’re having a technological war with Iran. Our engineers are fighting Iranian engineers, today, and it’s becoming increasingly significant.”

The war, he said, was over intelligence, weapons and military capabilities, and Halevi was pessimistic. “Today we have the advantage. Iran is closing in on it. Since the 1979 revolution, the number of universities and university students in Iran has increased twentyfold, compared with three and a half times for Israel,” Halevi said, adding that enrollment in science, technology, engineering and math in Iran was skyrocketing.
Halevi touched on the current wave of terror attacks and the difference between the country’s past wars, conducted mainly in border areas, and today’s wars, in which the home front suffers many casualties.
“The next war will be much worse for the home front,” Halevi said. “In the Yom Kippur War there was one home-front casualty; a FROG missile struck the pilots’ quarters of the Ramat David air base. It was the only casualty on the home front. All the rest were military.”
He said a main issue in today’s wars was awareness. “It’s not about how many you killed and how many the other side killed, and it’s not about how far you got and where you planted your flag. It’s about the story that the war tells,” he said.
“All of us, including me and each of you, have for the past month been brainwashing ourselves when we watch those stabbing videos over and over, creating a level of anxiety that, had everyone in the War of Independence been watching the videos of Latrun, San Simon or Nitzanim, it’s not sure we would have been able to keep going.”
Halevi said it was much harder for MI to develop and retain intelligence sources today than a decade or two ago due to rapid technological change. “The same kilogram of intelligence costs much more than it did 10 years ago. Not only does it cost more, its expiration date is significantly sooner,” he said.
“Twenty years ago you had an intelligence accomplishment and you were set for the next five to seven years. Today you might have worked really hard, risking people’s lives, carrying out all sorts of maneuvers. You got something, but with the speed at which our world operates and the speed at which technology changes,” the expiry time declines.
To illustrate this point, the MI chief described efforts to collect intelligence about the Islamic State. He encouraged his audience to not be fooled by the dreadlocks and traditional robes of ISIS operatives. “They use the most cutting-edge technology,” he said. “It’s not carrier pigeons, it’s the most advanced communication systems, with the best encryption on top of that. It changes every couple of days.”
He said MI’s organizational culture was such that even soldiers and junior officers could have great influence. “We faced a dilemma over whether to carry out a particular operation in a particular place. It was about to go up to the chief of staff for a decision, and we needed to decide whether to do it or not,” he said.
“An officer enters my office and says, ‘Listen, I want you to read this, it’s a letter from a first lieutenant, a network intelligence officer at a Unit 8200 base.’ He’s a first lieutenant. He writes a letter to the Unit 8200 commander and to the head of MI: ‘Listen, I think you’re making a mistake,’” Halevi said.
“It's just five minutes before decision time. I might not have read the letter if it arrived one minute later, before the talk with the chief of staff. That’s the ability of people to make an impact at the most critical second of decision-making.”
Halevi defended the standing army against recent criticism about the size of the defense budget. “There’s a bit of an atmosphere in the country today — maybe you don’t think so — but the officers feel that’s it not so positive toward the army,” he said.
“I think this is dangerous. I think it comes a bit from the place of the budget. Officers tell me strangers sometimes stop them on the street saying we’re the problem of the Israeli economy. I’d be cautious. It’s better that the best people are involved — in security in general and intelligence in particular.”
Halevi said he even feared the elimination of mandatory military service in Israel. “The quiet depends on our being strong, and my fear is that we will end the model of a people’s army, and then the IDF won’t accept all of Israeli youth into its ranks and won’t take advantage of the best people,” he said.
“If we change the model of the people’s army, then in the first two or three years inertia will keep us going, but after that the entire defense establishment will be damaged to the point of damage to the state’s security.”

Iran Closing Technology Gap With Israel, Military Intelligence Chief Warns - Israel News - Israel News - Haaretz Israeli News Source

Israel makes up alot of crap to play the "in danger" card. Couple months ago they said Hezbollah is stronger than most Country's Armed Forces. In reality, Iran is atleast a decade behind Israel.