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Iran-backed militias recruiting Pakistanis, Afghans to fight in Syria

He was insulting Sunni sanctity, horrifying, may Allah save Muslims from extremism, that's why our friends are brothers in arms. Two extremists from different religions lol
An atheist become empty from everything.

Humanity, sense, nationality, mind

Plus he’s living in Arab forums. He’s affected by wahhabi opinions (fart brains) 24/7/365 ....
 
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Cute to see two Arab-obsessed Iranian users @2800 and @mohammed45 talking to themselves by writing nonsense one-liners.

@SALMAN F @TheCamelGuy

An atheist become empty from everything.

Humanity, sense, nationality, mind

Plus he’s living in Arab forums. He’s affected by wahhabi opinions (fart brains) 24/7/365 ....

Islam itself and all Islamic sects (including the one that you are following - Shia Twelver Islam) originated from Arabia and ironically it was thanks to imported Arab Shia Mullah's, including from modern-day Eastern Province in KSA, that forcefully/eventually helped convert most of Iran from Sunni Shafi'i Islam to Shia Twelver Islam under the Safavids.

And indeed Arabs stick together on Arab forums (that dwarf PDF in size and activity) as well as in person regardless of sect and nationality which might hurt you two but it is what it is.

@SALMAN F is not an atheist either.

Arab Shia Ulama

After the conquest, Ismail began transforming the religious landscape of Iran by imposing Twelver Shiism on the populace. Since most of the population embraced Sunni Islam and since an educated version of Shiism was scarce in Iran at the time, Ismail imported a new Shia Ulama corps from traditional Shiite centers of the Arabic speaking lands, largely from Jabal Amil (of Southern Lebanon), Mount Lebanon, Syria, Eastern Arabia and Southern Iraq in order to create a state clergy.[37][38][39][40]Ismail offered them land and money in return for loyalty. These scholars taught the doctrine of Twelver Shiism and made it accessible to the population and energetically encouraged conversion to Shiism.[34][41][42][43] To emphasize how scarce Twelver Shiism was then to be found in Iran, a chronicler tells us that only one Shia text could be found in Ismail’s capital Tabriz.[44] Thus it is questionable whether Ismail and his followers could have succeeded in forcing a whole people to adopt a new faith without the support of the Arab Shiite scholars.[36] The rulers of Safavid Persia also invited these foreign Shiite religious scholars to their court in order to provide legitimacy for their own rule over Persia.[45]

Abbas I of Persia, during his reign, also imported more Arab Shia Ulama to Iran, built religious institutions for them, including many Madrasahs (religious schools) and successfully persuaded them to participate in the government, which they had shunned in the past (following the Hidden imam doctrine).[46]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam#Arab_Shia_Ulama

Khomeini and Khamenei are descendants of those Arab migrants to Iran and they openly proclaim so too.

Well there is a view they the one in Cairo belong to
زینب بنت ‏یحیی المتوج بن الحسن الانور بن زید بن حسن بن علی بن ابی طالب
And also they claim some of the text that made such claims can't be verified and some wrong.

About the shrines also there is some claims that say she was buried in medina (well I'm not aware of any shrine of her there but well you really can't be certain we knew she returned to media but we are not certain that if she left median again. So some claim she have been buried in بقیع).

To be honest some of the historian say the shrine in Damascus belong to ام کلثوم daughter of Imam Ali (علیه السلام) but nobody is sure as some also say Abde-Allah aljaefar in one travel to Syria took her with him and in that travel she died .

About Damascus well its not new and Shia from old time would have gone there. Also the when in your heart something is true its true.

Most scholars agree that this shrine is not located in Syria but Cairo, Egypt. Another theory is Madinah. Fact of the matter is that 1000's of Shia mercenaries are nothing more than cannon fodder for the Al-Assad regime and that some single shrine is just an excuse. As if those 1000's of Shia mercenaries are guarding that shrine 24/7 but somehow end up getting killed in great numbers all across Syria by Syrians.

Whatever you like this claim even won't worth answering.

What I said is the historical truth, albeit written in the context of his trolling as a reply.

With due apologies brother, they're nothing but conjectures on your part. I also don't appreciate the fact that despite numerous clarification in my previous posts having the discussion with you explaining what's what in terms of different Liwas...you still wrote Don't you know that most of those Afghans, your compatriots etc. are people trying to survive day to day in Iran (living as illegal refugees without any rights) trying to wrap them up in a single packing whilst that's clearly not the case. I have written in very plain English explaining to you the difference between Pakistani volunteers from PARACHINAR and their involvement vs. the Liwa Fatemiyoun, an official Iranian paramilitary force.



Once again, you're acting the same way as most of the non-Arabs act here on this forum when it comes to Arab affairs because of incomplete information. Ethnic Hazaras engaged in Syria are Afghans, i.e. Liwa Fatemiyoun which has a State Mandate. It's fallen are buried with proper honour and protocol in Iran, and you will find them all over Syria because their scope of operations is in alignment with the Iranian and Assad regime defence treaty. I have amply stated the facts about Liwa Zainabiyoun in my most recent posts.



It might be fake as per you and no problem. Anyone who believes it's fake has the right not to visit it or defend it. No issue whatsoever. However, and again, as I have stated in my previous posts that it is imperative for any Shia who believes the Shrine to be valid to go and defend it and the pilgrims visiting their due to CONCRETE AND REAL attacks which have taken place against the Shrine. Shias will not factor in the belief or disbelief of Sunnis when it comes to their Shrine(s). Pakistani Shia volunteer also went to Iraq and were ready to shed their blood for the protection of Karbala and Najaf when ISIS was at their doorstep. Salafi militias CAN NOT be trusted with the lives and properties of ANY MINORITY.



It's a noble and humanitarian gesture on your individual part. Syria's still there though, going through a brutal civil war but still there. Syria is more than Al-Assad, Jabhat un Nusra, Russia etc.




Brother I'll disagree with you on this. Despite the Saudis helping out Syrians monetarily, what really matters, shines and stands are concrete effort like that of Turkey. When you're in a group and you have a fight, you remember the friends who fought beside you even if they get their a$$ handed to them. You're merely grateful for the friends who take you to the hospital and comfort you...but NOTHING substitute the guy who stood with you, dished out punches and took some punches with you. That bond is something else. Say what you will about Turkey, Iran, and/or Russia, they are on the ground facing the same bullets and shedding RED, no matter the quantity because it's a drop more any GCC or Pakistani citizen.

Nouri al Maliki is history, his blind obedience led to his downfall and now he's no more.

Saudi Arabia should either get involved in a meaningful way, being the leader of the Sunni Muslim world, or brother it should let nature take it's course and let the powers decide what's what.

Once again, you know just like me that this "shrine excuse" is a lame excuse. Nothing else. You also know that there are tons of Shia Jihadist groups operating alongside the Al-Assad regime. Some Shia Arabs (unfortunately) as well, including even individuals from KSA. Each volunteer has his own agenda and reasons. Some are no different from Daesh and make no secret of their sectarianism, hence why you have even videos of such people taking about killing Sunnis. In fact Hezbollah members were caught in the act. Trash.

I know that Hazaras are Afghans. Did I say otherwise?

So one shrine of a long dead person (most likely not even the original one) is more important than 1000's of mosques, 100.000's of Muslim Syrian civilians (dead) etc. Some messed up sect/beliefs then, I am afraid.

Turkey is helping tiny Afrin. It's really not worth even discussing IMO. If I recall, half of the population is Kurd there. Turkey (Erdogan) abandoned Aleppo (largest Syrian city). The Syrian Sunni Arabs that you speak about have not forgotten that.

Once again, I am talking as an individual person. Nobody here is a leader. KSA is not done in Syria nor any other Arab country. We will not abandon Syria and our brothers and sisters in Syria.

Which is why KSA relief is ongoing in Syria 24/7, hence my previous posts from Ghouta that is being bombarded.
 
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Cute to see two Arab-obsessed Iranian users @2800 and @mohammed45 talking to themselves by writing nonsense one-liners.

@SALMAN F @TheCamelGuy



Islam itself and all Islamic sects (including the one that you are following - Shia Twelver Islam) originated from Arabia and ironically it was thanks to imported Arab Shia Mullah's, including from modern-day Eastern Province in KSA, that forcefully/eventually helped convert most of Iran from Sunni Shafi'i Islam to Shia Twelver Islam under the Safavids.

And indeed Arabs stick together on Arab forums (that dwarf PDF in size and activity) as well as in person regardless of sect and nationality which might hurt you two but it is what it is.

@SALMAN F is not an atheist either.

Arab Shia Ulama

After the conquest, Ismail began transforming the religious landscape of Iran by imposing Twelver Shiism on the populace. Since most of the population embraced Sunni Islam and since an educated version of Shiism was scarce in Iran at the time, Ismail imported a new Shia Ulama corps from traditional Shiite centers of the Arabic speaking lands, largely from Jabal Amil (of Southern Lebanon), Mount Lebanon, Syria, Eastern Arabia and Southern Iraq in order to create a state clergy.[37][38][39][40]Ismail offered them land and money in return for loyalty. These scholars taught the doctrine of Twelver Shiism and made it accessible to the population and energetically encouraged conversion to Shiism.[34][41][42][43] To emphasize how scarce Twelver Shiism was then to be found in Iran, a chronicler tells us that only one Shia text could be found in Ismail’s capital Tabriz.[44] Thus it is questionable whether Ismail and his followers could have succeeded in forcing a whole people to adopt a new faith without the support of the Arab Shiite scholars.[36] The rulers of Safavid Persia also invited these foreign Shiite religious scholars to their court in order to provide legitimacy for their own rule over Persia.[45]

Abbas I of Persia, during his reign, also imported more Arab Shia Ulama to Iran, built religious institutions for them, including many Madrasahs (religious schools) and successfully persuaded them to participate in the government, which they had shunned in the past (following the Hidden imam doctrine).[46]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam#Arab_Shia_Ulama

Khomeini and Khamenei are descendants of those Arab migrants to Iran and they openly proclaim so too.



Most scholars agree that this shrine is not located in Syria but Cairo, Egypt. Another theory is Madinah. Fact of the matter is that 1000's of Shia mercenaries are nothing more than cannon fodder for the Al-Assad regime and that some single shrine is just an excuse. As if those 1000's of Shia mercenaries are guarding that shrine 24/7 but somehow end up getting killed in great numbers all across Syria by Syrians.



What I said is the historical truth, albeit written in the context of his trolling as a reply.



Once again, you know just like me that this "shrine excuse" is a lame excuse. Nothing else. You also know that there are tons of Shia Jihadist groups operating alongside the Al-Assad regime. Some Shia Arabs (unfortunately) as well, including even individuals from KSA. Each volunteer has his own agenda and reasons. Some are no different from Daesh and make no secret of their sectarianism, hence why you have even videos of such people taking about killing Sunnis. In fact Hezbollah members were caught in the act. Trash.

I know that Hazaras are Afghans. Did I say otherwise?

So one shrine of a long dead person (most likely not even the original one) is more important than 1000's of mosques, 100.000's of Muslim Syrian civilians (dead) etc. Some messed up sect/beliefs then, I am afraid.

Turkey is helping tiny Afrin. It's really not worth even discussing IMO.

Once again, I am talking as an individual person. Nobody here is a leader. KSA is not done in Syria nor any other Arab country. We will not abandon Syria and our brothers and sisters in Syria.
@SALMAN F is an atheist.

Shut up and don’t lie.
 
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You have written 5 pages against Iranians.

Iranian regime = Iranians. From what I can see it was your compatriot based in Germany and friend @mohammad45 that started barking against KSA and Arabs in this thread for no reason and without any Arab users commenting. Just like he does constantly.
 
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Arab Shia Ulama

After the conquest, Ismail began transforming the religious landscape of Iran by imposing Twelver Shiism on the populace. Since most of the population embraced Sunni Islam and since an educated version of Shiism was scarce in Iran at the time, Ismail imported a new Shia Ulama corps from traditional Shiite centers of the Arabic speaking lands, largely from Jabal Amil (of Southern Lebanon), Mount Lebanon, Syria, Eastern Arabia and Southern Iraq in order to create a state clergy.[37][38][39][40]Ismail offered them land and money in return for loyalty. These scholars taught the doctrine of Twelver Shiism and made it accessible to the population and energetically encouraged conversion to Shiism.[34][41][42][43] To emphasize how scarce Twelver Shiism was then to be found in Iran, a chronicler tells us that only one Shia text could be found in Ismail’s capital Tabriz.[44] Thus it is questionable whether Ismail and his followers could have succeeded in forcing a whole people to adopt a new faith without the support of the Arab Shiite scholars.[36] The rulers of Safavid Persia also invited these foreign Shiite religious scholars to their court in order to provide legitimacy for their own rule over Persia.[45]

Abbas I of Persia, during his reign, also imported more Arab Shia Ulama to Iran, built religious institutions for them, including many Madrasahs (religious schools) and successfully persuaded them to participate in the government, which they had shunned in the past (following the Hidden imam doctrine).[46]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam#Arab_Shia_Ulama
@WebMaster @Irfan Baloch @Oscar He brings religious posts in most his posts.

Please check his 5 pages Shia hating/religious posts against Iranians.

He just got permanently banned under this account: @sharif al-hijaz which seems to be deleted.
 
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@WebMaster @irfna balochi He brings religious posts in most his posts.

Those are historical facts and I was not the one that started barking about imaginary "Wahahbis" despite Islam itself originating in the Arab world (Arabia and more precisely what is modern-day KSA), Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Sufism and almost every single Muslim sect.

When former Lebanese SHIA TWELVER Arab HEZBOLLAH leaders are openly criticizing the Iranian Mullah's and their role in Syria, what are you and your friend going to use as an excuse then? I would like to know, lol.:pdf:



Everyone that criticizes the Iranian Mullah policies, Al-Assad regime is either Daesh or eating poor "oppressed" Shias for breakfast.:lol:

@SALMAN F, a Shia himself, has now suddenly become an Atheist and @TheCamelGuy , despite being an Iraqi nationalist, is now sucking up to foreign nationalities.

BTW, I have a secret for you two. Saudi Arabian and Iraqi civilians are brotherly people and incredibly close on all fronts. There has never been any hatred and relations are great and always have been people to people. They don't need to suck up neither do I. Non-Arabs will not understand this.


Saudi Arabian women visiting Basra Sports City and Basra before the game and being welcomed warmly by locals as well as talking with workers on the port.


Wonderful brotherly reception;


 
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Those are historical facts and I was not the one that started barking about imaginary "Wahahbis" despite Islam itself originating in the Arab world (Arabia and more precisely what is modern-day KSA), Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Sufism and almost every single Muslim sect.

When former Lebanese SHIA TWELVER Arab HEZBOLLAH leaders are openly criticizing the Iranian Mullah's and their role in Syria, what are you and your friend going to use as an excuse then? I would like to know, lol.:pdf:



Everyone that criticizes the Iranian Mullah policies, Al-Assad regime is either Daesh or eating poor "oppressed" Shias for breakfast.:lol:

How else are you going to recruit retarded arabs? By saying that they are fighting for Iranians?
 
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Saudi propaganda.

Saudis through their Wahabi ideology has given Pakistan a poisonous crop of sectarian terrorists. It took Pakistan a long time to kill all those sectarian terrorists. The Saudi ideology is still creating sectarian discord in Pakistan.

Strange that Israel sympathizers are now becoming propaganda mouthpieces for Saudi Arabia.
 
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You not believing in Shia theology is completely fine, you don't have to or need to defend the Shrines or other Shias. It's a non-issue on part of the Shia volunteers as to what the Sunnis think of their Shrines or revered personalities.

Their Shrines??? Who give authority to Shias to declare Ahle Bayeth as their own? The majority of Muslims, the Sunnis, love and adore Ahle-Bayeth as much as you Shias do...

If you are ok with Pakistani shias going to Syria to fight proxy battles of Iran then why you guys make noise when Pakistanis want to send forces into KSA....Then you guys chant for "neutrality" , blame people of "slave mentality" "lovers of Riyal"

Double standards? Iranians are creating trouble from Yemen to all the way up to Syria...They used Pakistani shia to spy for them in Germany...And you then blame people when they get pissed off at Iran...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/germany-arrests-pakistani-man-accused-of-spying-for-iran.438316/

Unless Iranians reign their mullahs...their relations with rest of Muslims , Sunni world, will not go beyond few steps. Pakistan can have extremely good relations with Iran only if guy like Shah comes to power in Iran again. Otherwise, i am not so hopeful.

I have nothing against Shias. I don't like them when they abused our Sahabas (Radhi Allahu Tallah Anho)

Peace
 
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Shia Islam will be always alive until arrival of Imam Mahdi (AS) and we take take revege of 11 Shia Imams and 18 years old Sayyedah Zahra (SA) daughter of last prophet whom got poisoned by his Sahaba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pen_and_paper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_at_Fatimah's_house
Those are historical facts and I was not the one that started barking about imaginary "Wahahbis" despite Islam itself originating in the Arab world (Arabia and more precisely what is modern-day KSA), Sunni Islam, Shia Islam, Sufism and almost every single Muslim sect.

When former Lebanese SHIA TWELVER Arab HEZBOLLAH leaders are openly criticizing the Iranian Mullah's and their role in Syria, what are you and your friend going to use as an excuse then? I would like to know, lol.:pdf:



Everyone that criticizes the Iranian Mullah policies, Al-Assad regime is either Daesh or eating poor "oppressed" Shias for breakfast.:lol:
You Saudi/French wahhabi idiot have posted one single video for 100000000 times.

Anyway I don’t want to talk to you cause you make me unclean.

You’re not even born under marriage. A mixed French saudi nationality which is haram in Islam.
 
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Shia Islam will be always alive until arrival of Imam Mahdi (AS) and we take take revege of 11 Shia Imams and 18 years old Sayyedah Zahra (SA) daughter of last prophet whom got poisoned by his Sahaba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_the_pen_and_paper

You Saudi/French wahhabi idiot have posted one single video for 100000000 times.

Anyway I don’t want to talk to you cause you make me unclean.

You’re not even born under marriage. A mixed French saudi nationality which is haram in Islam.

You need to take your medicine Rafidah Majoosi (using your language) and stop obsessing about internal Arab affairs while most of the 500 million Arabs despise your likes (Anti-Arab Iranians with your world view).

Good luck "getting revenge" from 1.5 billion Muslims. I let you you continue to live in your fantasy land. However don't forget the facts that I wrote in this thread.

You are a braindead Shia Twelver thanks to my ancestors. So have some shame.
 
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You need to take your medicine Rafidah Majoosi (using your language) and stop obsessing about internal Arab affairs while most of the 500 million Arabs despise your likes (Anti-Arab Iranians with your world view).

Good luck "getting revenge" from 1.5 billion Muslims. I let you you continue to live in your fantasy land. However don't forget the facts that I wrote in this thread.

You are a braindead Shia Twelver thanks to my ancestors. So have some shame.
99.999% of Sufiyani are Arab.
 
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99.999% of Sufiyani are Arab.

:lol:

All those people you worship are Arabs. Imam al-Mahdi will be an Arab.


Nobody is interested in your distorted Wilayat al-Faqih version of Shia Islam which emerged in Arab lands under Arab scholars or whatever fairytales your Arab/Wannabe Arab Mullah's are teaching you of nonsense.


The only thing Iranian trolls like you are able to do is to bark on online forums, moreover a Pakistani forum (never a natural let alone an Arab forum :lol: ) but keep barking and thinking that you have any say in internal Arab dealings.

Arabs do not want to have anything to do with anti-Arab Iranian drones. Plenty of non-anti Arab Iranians to have relations with instead if that will be relevant, as is already the case in GCC where your largest refugee diaspora after the one in the US is based. Ironically.


From what I can see it is Iranian users here who are obsessing about internal Arab affairs and meddling while at the same time mentioning Arabs and KSA (trolling) and when the few remaining active Arab users (that have not left this troll forum by large nowadays) reply by posting historical facts and telling some truths, you are crying. Pathetic spineless behavior.


In a supposed Islamic Republic ruled/influenced greatly by Iranian Arabs, where Arabic is obligatory, where Islamic unity is supposedly highlighted and a country that is visited by Shia Arabs due to Mashhad and Qom (two cities funded by Arabs and with Arabic names even), especially among self-proclaimed religious Iranians like you, it is amazing to see anti-Arab creatures emerge. Some kind of schizophrenia.

 
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