Iran attempts to steal US Navy unmanned naval vessel, then departs after US response

[lydian fall]

Shall I just put hack on the ignore list? Because it seems he has to have the last say and it's just hard letting him get away with it every time just because of keeping things calm.

That is your own choice bro

Anyway @Hack-Hook must get permanently banned so other members won't leave because of a low life Iran Russian hater

 

[Shams313]

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All these members plus serpentine and rmi5 have left for years and @Hack-Hook is still trolling against all of Iran's achievements 24/7

Those people are like a memory to me, old days and we enjoyed a lot.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Shia clerics restricted it to very marginal and rare cases in of otherwise incurable mental illness, which is very far removed from the western practice of fashionable transgenderism "by choice", which the so-called LGBT lobby is promoting. There's strictly no relation, and the Holy Qur'an as well as ahadith do not endorse this sort of ideology at all.

Shia clerics allowed in for all transgenders or more precisely people who suffer from Sexual identification Disorder and honestly i can'r see why somebody else want to go under the procedure . can you tell me why ?

There clearly is no need for ijma when the Quran and Sunnah is clear as day, though there is consensus amongst Sunni scholars and I can bring you Shia scholars who agree that it is haram too. Just fringe liberals who make what is haram halal to please their western masters.

I see nothing in Quran and Sunnah on the matter , yet .I see LGBQ part but when it come to T nobody ever shown me anything and they are fundamentally different matter.

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

I see nothing in Quran and Sunnah on the matter , yet .I see LGBQ part but when it come to T nobody ever shown me anything and they are fundamentally different matter.

You must be a zahiri then. I suppose you think cocaine is halal, having sex with animals is halal and cars are haram because no mention of them in Quran either! Preposterous! Alhamdulillah, Allah didnt leave his religion in the hands if ignormaous liberals and desire-worshippers to represent our religion as ahlul ilm. There is a thing called ijtihad, and it is unanimously agreed upon that it is haram, as we have already dicussed, with the ultra rare exception if their gentials are hidden inside their body and you need to make them appear by corrective surgery. Everyone has shown you evidence and you chose to reject it. So we will leave your affairs with Allah. He'll know what to do with you.

 

[waz]

From now on arguments like this and dozens of off-topic posts will now earn thread bans.

 

[SalarHaqq]

Shia clerics allowed in for all transgenders or more precisely people who suffer from Sexual identification Disorder and honestly i can'r see why somebody else want to go under the procedure . can you tell me why ?

Because of social engineering, as is happening right now in the west. The stated goal of the LGBT lobby, inspired by fourth generation feminism or gender theory (derived from the work of authors like Judith Butler), is to bring about generalized gender fluidity.

Meaning that they're promoting a mindset in society whereby individuals may freely and casually switch both between different genders as well as between sexual peferences (hence the intricate link between transgenderism and homosexualism in the context of the contemporary ideology referred to as LGBTism). This they try to justify by taking aim at heteronormativity i.e. they postulate that the reason why heterosexual people comfortable with their biological gender make up an extreme majority, is because of their education from early childhood, through which they were taught that heterosexuality and conservation of one's genotypical gender represents the norm.

Thence, the LGBT lobby as well as dominant western circles of power who support the latter, have instituted a thorough revision of public education programs, which are now actively advertizing transsexualism and homosexuality with children. This was then taken up by UNESCO in the framework of its 2030 Agenda, which it began spreading in the global south. Western regimes even go as far as conditioning development aid upon acceptance of these sorts of programs. Moreover, parents in the west will now lose their right of care and custody, have their children forcibly taken away from them and placed in specialized institutions if they dare teach them that heterosexuality is the way to go. LGBT ideology conceives of these measures as a form of "emancipation" of sexual minorities against so-called "gender discrimination".

In Iran, the liberal administration of Rohani as well as reformist members of Majles attempted to have the controversial paragraphs of the 2030 Agenda ratified, but thanks to the direct intervention of his eminence the Supreme Leader, they failed and Iranian children are not being subjected to these dangerous and un-Islamic teachings.

In short, according the western LGBT ideology, gender change is not and should not be a last resort in response to a clinical condition, but represents a mere individual choice, and a constantly evolving one at that, akin to individual taste in any other area of life (like preferred color, clothing, food etc). Tell an LGBT activist that desire for gender change is a form of psychopathology, and they'll label you a fascist ostracizing sexual minorities.

The view of some Shia clergymen who authorized gender reassignment in certain exceptional, marginal cases, is exactly opposite: a person will never be allowed to change their gender because they simply "feel like it" or by mere virtue of them expressing a wish to do so, but on the contrary, because psychiatric expertise determines that they precisely do not have any such choice.

This ensures that transvestite tendencies, cross-dressing and transgenderism will stay as rare as extreme cases of sexual identity disorder happen to be in a traditional society, and will not morph into the casual, fashionable phenomenon they've been made into elsewhere. Here's a key difference between two incompatible approaches. The rationale and goals of the Shia clergy are therefore conflicting with those of the LGBT lobby, they have in fact nothing in common. Thence, nobody should liken the perception of Shia ulema with the LGBT take on transgenderism.

Which is why in Islamic Iran, other Imam Khamenei's ban on gender theory at schools and the freedom granted to parents to raise their children according to the heterosexual norm, there is no dissociation of physical and subjective gender identity in law. Abominations like the following will therefore never be taking place in Islamic Iran, thanks to the vigilance of our beloved ulema and Leadership.

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Transgender prisoner who sexually assaulted inmates jailed for life​

Karen White, 52, admitted sexually assaulting women in female prison and raping two other women outside jail

Karen White was on remand for multiple rapes and other sexual offences against women when she transferred to the female prison. Photograph: Rex/Shutterstock

Thu 11 Oct 2018 14.58 BST
First published on Thu 11 Oct 2018 12.52 BST


A “predatory and controlling” rapist has been jailed for life after she attacked vulnerable women in female prisons.

Karen White, 52, who was described as being a danger to women and children, admitted sexually assaulting women in a female prison and raping another two women outside jail.

White was transferred to New Hall prison in Wakefield, West Yorkshire, on remand last September after being arrested on suspicion of repeatedly stabbing a neighbour. The attacks on fellow prisoners took place between September and October.

The 52-year-old, who is currently transitioning, was sentenced yesterday for two counts of rape, two sexual assaults and one offence of wounding.
White has previous convictions for indecent assault, indecent exposure and gross indecency involving children, animal cruelty and dishonesty.
The Ministry of Justice has apologised for moving her to the women’s prison, saying that her previous offending history had not been taken into account.

What are the prison guidelines for transgender prisoners?​

Prosecutor Chris Dunn described White as an “alleged transgender female” who has used her “transgender persona to put herself in contact with vulnerable persons” whom she could then abuse.

“The prosecution say that because there is smattering of evidence in this case that the defendants approach to transition has been less than committed,” he added.

Sentencing White to a minimum of eight years-and-a-half years in prison, the judge, Christopher Batty, said: “You are a predator and highly manipulative and in my view you are a danger. You represent a significant risk of serious harm to children, to women and to the general public.”

White appeared at Leeds crown court via videolink from HMP Leeds – a male prison – dressed in a patterned blouse and wearing a blonde wig and using a walking stick. The court was told that since entering the prison system in August, White, who was now using a wheelchair on a regular basis, had begun gender reassignment treatment.

The court heard that White had a long history of sexual violence and had displayed predatory behaviour towards vulnerable adults and children for almost two decades.

In 1989, when she was known by her birth name, Stephen Terence Wood, she was convicted of indecent exposure when she deliberately exposed herself near a children’s playground.

Twelve years later White would go on to indecently assault and commit gross indecency with two boys aged nine and 12. She was jailed for 18 months.
And in 2003, not long after coming out of prison and while still on licence, she went on to rape a pregnant woman – the wife of a friend.

The defendant, who was then known as Stephen Wood and living in Manchester, had offered to help decorate a flat of the woman, who was two months pregnant.

While there White secretly spiked her drink with vodka until she passed out and then raped her, the court heard. White was arrested but no information was given in court as to why she was not prosecuted at the time.

The victim told the court in a statement the attack had ruined her life because her husband had not believed her.

In a statement to the court she said: “I have no relationships with anyone. I felt very dirty as a woman. I became very depressed. Even now 15 years on I still struggle with mental health and suffer horrendous flashbacks. Until 15 years ago I was a strong woman.”

White was first arrested in August last year when she threatened to kill her 66-year-old neighbour and repeatedly stabbed him with a steak-knife in Mytholmroyd, West Yorkshire.

While on remand at HMP New Hall White began gender realignment, wearing a wig, makeup and false breasts.

The court heard she became friendly with another female inmate. But on September 13 last year while in a queue for medication she pressed herself against the victim in a sexual manner.

The matter was reported to police and another prison assault came to light. Another inmate told how she was in the prison workshop with White when the defendant was making “inappropriate comments”.

White then grabbed her hand and put it on the defendant’s left breast with the words: “Oh look, they are not real ones.”

While in New Hall White wrote a letter to a woman. It was this letter that sparked an investigation as the woman returned the letter saying that she did not want any further correspondence from White to be sent to her.

Prison authorities and police began to investigate and the woman, in her 20s, told police White had violently raped her five or six times between January and December 2016. Police then also investigated the 2003 rape.

While on remand White freely admitted to probation officers she was sexually interested in children and could abuse a child and “think nothing of it”.
Addressing the defendant, Batty added: “You are a predator and highly manipulative and in my view you are a danger.”

A Prison Service spokesperson said: “We apologise sincerely for the mistakes which were made in this case.

“While we work to manage all prisoners, including those who are transgender, sensitively and in line with the law, we are clear that the safety of all prisoners must be our absolute priority.”

Transgender prisoner who sexually assaulted inmates jailed for life

Karen White, 52, admitted sexually assaulting women in female prison and raping two other women outside jail

www.theguardian.com

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

@SalarHaqq youll get your answer and sound refutation of it from scripture and hadeeth, not whims and desires.

 

[SalarHaqq]

already answered that here

Iran attempts to steal US Navy unmanned naval vessel, then departs after US response

Also even if they did mention homosexuality, what has that got to do with what Salar was saying and your intrigue in wanting us to know the difference between a preop and postop mental patient? Indeed, the user's interjection was irrelevant to the point put forth in my post. I'd suggest not to...

defence.pk

go read it and you get your answer

Addressed that as well. My post did include references to homosexualism in the USA military (the two photographs I shared). Moreover the interjection was off-topic, because I was talking about something which male transsexualism and male homosexualism actually have in common, namely feminization. It represents an appropriate counter to the comment about the Iranian military which I was reacting to. So highlighting differences between transsexuals and homosexuals is beside the point I was then making.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Addressed that as well. My post did include references to homosexualism in the USA military (the two photographs I shared). Moreover the interjection was off-topic, because I was talking about something which male transsexualism and male homosexualism actually have in common, namely feminization. It represents an appropriate counter to the comment about the Iranian military which I was reacting to. So highlighting differences between transsexuals and homosexuals is beside the point I was then making.

@SalarHaqq youll get your answer and sound refutation of it from scripture and hadeeth, not whims and desires.

If you want to continue this discussion, somewhere else not this thread
otherwise i already answered all you have offered

 

[SalarHaqq]

If you want to continue this discussion, somewhere else not this thread
otherwise i already answered all you have offered

Not even close. Starting with the fact that the initial interjection against my post was both inoperative (ignoring my references to homosexualism in the USA military) and off-topic (differences between transsexualism and homosexualism have nothing to do with the point I made).

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

If you want to continue this discussion, somewhere else not this thread
otherwise i already answered all you have offered

You need to take that advice yourself. Sure and youve been refuted. This is a matter of deen and of highest importance, what happens to me as a result of it in this dunya is not important...thats the difference between me and you.

 

[Oldman1]

So you expect us to blow your ships up over a pair of non-lethal drones which we vandalised, in the midst of negotiations as well?! Get a grip and go back to sleep, gramps. That "concussion" again, huh?

LOL! Considering you could have just moved on with the drones without having to vandalized. Fire on American ships without fear.

still remain the question that why in Persian gulf , they tugged the drone for some hours without taking it into Iranian water , it was like look i'm here if you can do anything .
then i don't think it would have taken 10 minutes to enter into Iranian water .

don't look like Iran actually wanted to take the drones then , so i conclude this time also they didn't want to take the drone either

There are drones in the Red Sea which the Iranians also capture and ditched it as well when confronted by the U.S. Navy. You guys own that body of water as well?

 

[Hack-Hook]

LOL! Considering you could have just moved on with the drones without having to vandalized. Fire on American ships without fear.


There are drones in the Red Sea which the Iranians also capture and ditched it as well when confronted by the U.S. Navy. You guys own that body of water as well?

no it seems the official story is the drones were wandering around commercial sea routes aimlessly and were hazardous to the ships in the area so Iran navy moved them to safe places .

those drones didn't have their lights on , didn't answered to the hail , have their trackers off and were not visible to normal civilian ships . really hazardous to shipping traffic . i suggest you guys fix those problem with the drones or keep them away from the shipping lines

 

[Daylamite Warrior]

LOL! Considering you could have just moved on with the drones without having to vandalized. Fire on American ships without fear.

We clearly didnt need them, but we still rendered a few out of order, with impunity I may add. Surely you should have gunned us down for vandalising, no?

If we have to we will, but a few plastic drones makes not a shipwreck.

 

[Oldman1]

no it seems the official story is the drones were wandering around commercial sea routes aimlessly and were hazardous to the ships in the area so Iran navy moved them to safe places .

those drones didn't have their lights on , didn't answered to the hail , have their trackers off and were not visible to normal civilian ships . really hazardous to shipping traffic . i suggest you guys fix those problem with the drones or keep them away from the shipping lines

That's Iran's official story. They have been sailing around the oceans just fine.

We clearly didnt need them, but we still rendered a few out of order, with impunity I may add. Surely you should have gunned us down for vandalising, no?

If we have to we will, but a few plastic drones makes not a shipwreck.

If you didn't need them, why try to tow them and have them on your ship in the Red Sea in the first place?