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Interview with a former SSG Colonel.

Stop being innocent, India is already providing logistics and support to Baloch and TTP insurgents. PA is on killing spree of Indian assets and will finish them all sooner.

Pakistan should engage India in her borders like they did in Past. Its the only solution.
Not going to argue about who did what and who's doing what. My view is proxies are not good for any positive movement in our relations, considering poverty on both sides, instability on one.

And if according to you pak fouj should or wishes to engage India on her borders direct or indirect then keep in mind we can do that too. With more clout, more money, more reach. Much much more.
 
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Your present Pradhan Mantri g accepted that India was the major part of all the huge conspiracy behind the fall of Dhaka and you are saying you didn't start it? Maybe you are betraying your own ancestors bud.

I said 1971 wasnt the start it was 1947-48 when Pak supported terrorist first enter kashmir valley .
 
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I said 1971 wasnt the start it was 1947-48 when Pak supported terrorist first enter kashmir valley .

Lol and if we go even before it when India halted Pakistan's right of partition and didn't distribute the British leftovers equally among the two states. Enough said, mate.
 
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Lol and if we go even before it when India halted Pakistan's right of partition and didn't distribute the British leftovers equally among the two states. Enough said, mate.

1947 ; Se phele to we dont consider Pakistan a state . It was all after Independece we are concerned about and how that come into proxy yr ye to bta hi de .
 
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1947 ; Se phele to we dont consider Pakistan a state . It was all after Independece we are concerned about and how that come into proxy yr ye to bta hi de .

Before 1947, there were no India or Pakistan but there gradually were Muslims and Hindus, or not? Heh!
 
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Indian members are getting very excited but India is reaping the seed of cross border terrorism that it sowed in 1971.
The way India trained Mukti bahini in 1971 in its terror camps and then armed then and sent them to create terrorism in East Pakistan, same way Pakistan is doing in Kashmir as said by this PA colonel.

In 1971 the Awami League was the legitimate ruler of Pakistan. The PA generals were bunch of thugs who had no business being in power.

So? When we train Sikhs or Kashmiris, you guys go bonkers.

You have tried in NE India, Punjab and Kashmir. It was not for the lack of effort.

Get your facts straight. The Awami League was the legitimate rulers of Pakistan in 1970. The military junta ruling Pakistan was illegal.
 
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Not going to argue about who did what and who's doing what. My view is proxies are not good for any positive movement in our relations, considering poverty on both sides, instability on one.

And if according to you pak fouj should or wishes to engage India on her borders direct or indirect then keep in mind we can do that too. With more clout, more money, more reach. Much much more.

You are already doing that with more money and more clout from which more then 3000s are already killed by Pakistan Army since july 2014 and we will keep killing them.
 
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In 1971 the Awami League was the legitimate ruler of Pakistan. The PA generals were bunch of thugs who had no business being in power.



You have tried in NE India, Punjab and Kashmir. It was not for the lack of effort.

Get your facts straight. The Awami League was the legitimate rulers of Pakistan in 1970. The military junta ruling Pakistan was illegal.
what do you know about legality.

Read the constitution of Pakistan and you will know almost every politician that came into power did not fulfill the constitutional requirements of coming to power. you forgot to mention what bhutto said when he was not given power. It was the famous line " udhar tum idhar hum". That was the turning point when we lost East Pakistan. Nawaz Sharif is running businesses in india, how can he take a strong line against indians. This is the political acumen of our political leadership. What else Pakistanis are left with except for looking at military. It has been time and again mentioned even by political leaders recently as well as media persons that Gen. Raheel Sharif is the most popular personality in Pakistan. It is our strong desire to have a civilian leader like Jinnah but to date it has been an elusive goal.

Furthermore, regarding the interview, india and Pakistan will continue to damage each other whenever they will have a chance, there will never be peace between these two considering the long history which we had. Therefore, let us both try to accept this reality and do what we are doing.
 
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In 1971 the Awami League was the legitimate ruler of Pakistan. The PA generals were bunch of thugs who had no business being in power.
Our country, our rules. The same goons you armed in support of Mujib later murdered him.
There was no such thing as legitimate with someone like Mujib who was hell bent upon dividing Pakistan (Go and study his six points)
Thugs were the mukti cut-throats armed by IA and RAW to kill non Bengalis.

The only date when u ever c some type off Khalistan support is on Op Blue star anniversary .
I was talking about it, not about today's Punjab. Don't put your words in my mouth.
 
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Pakistan's approach to Kashmir is deeply flawed. There are two opposite ways in which a people can live. One is the republic approach in which the people have direct participation in the making of decisions and policies that effect their lives. That was the way of Greek city states and Roman republic. Here people are their own rulers. Other way is that of a king or emperor. The king makes all the decisions for the people. He rules them and he decides what will be done and what will be not. He is deciding how people will live and what goals they will strive for.
In today's governments its a mix of both. Governments make all the decisions for the people but those governments are made up of the representatives people themselves chose. It is different from republics of Greece and Rome where citizens themselves participated in the governance not through representatives. Today the central governments rule over a country but autonomy to provinces and states is also given. This way the people of a province can make their own decision free from the central government.
Now we come to the point of bringing freedom to a people. Freedom can only mean one thing. Changing the political organization of a people from a state where they were ruled by a king to a state where they made their own decisions. A region's freedom is only suppressed when the center makes all the decisions and policies for them and they dont have any self rule.
Kashmir's circumstances are similar to any Pakistani province. They come under the central government in Delhi which makes some decisions for them but they also have a degree of self autonomy. Their state government makes most of the decisions and policies for them. A Pakistani province e.g Sind is in a similar situation. It is ruled by Islamabad but they also rule themselves through their own provincial government. What good can Pakistan do by taking Kashmir. Freeing them from the rule of Delhi and bringing them under the rule of Islamabad? What good will it do them. Will Islamabad grant them greater self autonomy. The answer is no. In Pakistan the provinces have even lesser self autonomy than what Indian states enjoy. Delhi interferes less in the lives of Indian people than Islamabad interferes in the lives of Pakistani people. If Kashmir joins Pakistan power will be transferred from Srinagar to Islamabad. Kashmirs will have even lesser power.
If Islamabad reduces its power and transfers it to provinces so that Pakistani provinces become far more autonomous than Indian states, only then can Pakistan demand Kashmir.
To sum it all up. Kashmirs dont rule themselves completely, Delhi rules them. But with Pakistan it will be no different, Islamabad will rule them.
 
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Pakistan's approach to Kashmir is deeply flawed. There are two opposite ways in which a people can live. One is the republic approach in which the people have direct participation in the making of decisions and policies that effect their lives. That was the way of Greek city states and Roman republic. Here people are their own rulers. Other way is that of a king or emperor. The king makes all the decisions for the people. He rules them and he decides what will be done and what will be not. He is deciding how people will live and what goals they will strive for.
In today's governments its a mix of both. Governments make all the decisions for the people but those governments are made up of the representatives people themselves chose. It is different from republics of Greece and Rome where citizens themselves participated in the governance not through representatives. Today the central governments rule over a country but autonomy to provinces and states is also given. This way the people of a province can make their own decision free from the central government.
Now we come to the point of bringing freedom to a people. Freedom can only mean one thing. Changing the political organization of a people from a state where they were ruled by a king to a state where they made their own decisions. A region's freedom is only suppressed when the center makes all the decisions and policies for them and they dont have any self rule.
Kashmir's circumstances are similar to any Pakistani province. They come under the central government in Delhi which makes some decisions for them but they also have a degree of self autonomy. Their state government makes most of the decisions and policies for them. A Pakistani province e.g Sind is in a similar situation. It is ruled by Islamabad but they also rule themselves through their own provincial government. What good can Pakistan do by taking Kashmir. Freeing them from the rule of Delhi and bringing them under the rule of Islamabad? What good will it do them. Will Islamabad grant them greater self autonomy. The answer is no. In Pakistan the provinces have even lesser self autonomy than what Indian states enjoy. Delhi interferes less in the lives of Indian people than Islamabad interferes in the lives of Pakistani people. If Kashmir joins Pakistan power will be transferred from Srinagar to Islamabad. Kashmirs will have even lesser power.
If Islamabad reduces its power and transfers it to provinces so that Pakistani provinces become far more autonomous than Indian states, only then can Pakistan demand Kashmir.
To sum it all up. Kashmirs dont rule themselves completely, Delhi rules them. But with Pakistan it will be no different, Islamabad will rule them.


The autonomy that you mentioned have rather degraded the standards of living in J&K. Thousands of youths are giving up on traditional wood carvings. The state government rather enjoys immunity against public accountability. The youths are being fed with romanticised version of martyrdom. They are giving up education. A turmoil in J&K will likely affect Pakistan too, besides India. I do not know about the ground situation of Sindh though.
 
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The autonomy that you mentioned have rather degraded the standards of living in J&K. Thousands of youths are giving up on traditional wood carvings. The state government rather enjoys immunity against public accountability. The youths are being fed with romanticised version of martyrdom. They are giving up education. A turmoil in J&K will likely affect Pakistan too, besides India. I do not know about the ground situation of Sindh though.
I am saying that the Pakistan demand on Kashmir is essentially that Kashmirs should change their king. Their current king is Delhi but Islamabad says that it should be their king. It is hardly an improvement. Progression will be made if Kashmirs enjoy greater independence from the king. A changing of king will make nothing better.
 
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Some people need to read this more than twice at least. Who blames him for all the mistakes of previous COAS. Also, believe he is not fulfilling his job.
Oh trust me, when previous one was in power he had a huge fan following as well. Its just something with Pakistani's, they get exposed to reality a lot late and tend to get carried away whatever media tells them. Not saying that the present one doesn't deserve praise for his sincere efforts, but do i think he is over rated----Yes! You will be hearing a lot about present COAS too, the moment he will step out of his office.
 
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I am saying that the Pakistan demand on Kashmir is essentially that Kashmirs should change their king. Their current king is Delhi but Islamabad says that it should be their king. It is hardly an improvement. Progression will be made if Kashmirs enjoy greater independence from the king. A changing of king will make nothing better.


Kashmiri society is being infiltrated with hardliners who look down upon others. India certainly wouldn't want such development in its proximity. What you wish for is a Syria in making. Remember J&K is of strategic significance to three nuclear armed countries. It becoming independent will only create power vacuum. And then the most likely sufferer will be Pakistan. Remember the Soviet-Afghan war and Operation Enduring Freedom/War on Terror just unleashed a large number of refugees across the Durand line.
 
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B U S T E D ...........for those handful of Pakistanis who believed the cocknbullcrap story about Kashmir. This colonel is the latest to fess up to Pakistani military causing terrorism in India.

Now watch these Pakistanis now exposed, turn into "oh yeah so what?".
 
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