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[QWECXZ]

I don't understand why some muslims cheer for mossadhosting and porkeating aliyov ? they are far far from being a normal muslim state.

Hypocrisy.

 

[Dariush the Great]

Hypocrisy.

let them explain this

 

[Dalit]

I know an Azeri professor at our university who is in Azerbaijan right now. He flew last week to Azerbaijan. I spoke to him today and luckily he is doing fine.

 

[dani92]

I don't understand why some muslims cheer for mossadhosting and porkeating aliyov ? they are far far from being a normal muslim state.

They are naive they think they are Muslims in reality even the so called Turkey erdogan support them from nationalistic point of view and not Islamic point of view also do their hatred toward Christians. Do they know that stalinbaijan don’t care about Islam and in fact they closed many Sunni mosques?!

 

[Patriot forever]

That's quite a primitive and backward idea. Your logic is exactly what is wrong with today's world and it's the cause of massacres in Iraq and Afghanistan by the NATO. If Iraq were a Christian country, over a million people wouldn't have died in the war with no one in the Western world batting an eye.

As far as the humanitarian aspect of the war is concerned, people should always side with the victim. No matter what. If a Muslim country is bullying a Christian country, I will side with the Christian country for sure. As far as politics is concerned, people should side with whoever that their victory is better for their interests. In this case, both aspects of the issue point to the fact that we should support Armenia against a country that is openly hosting Israeli army against Iran for decades.

Also, your logic is kind of weird. I wonder if it could be applied to India-China skirmishes as well. After all, India has 180 million Muslims while China has only 30 million Muslims and parts of India have been ruled by Muslims for a long time. So, they are indeed closer to us Muslims than the communist Chinese.

You see my views as primitive, you haven't seen the duplicity of the west as far as human rights are concerned.
Are you so naive to not see their support of Israel, what is it based on? Their silent support to atrocities committed by Israel against Muslims. Would their stance be the same if Palestine was a christian country?

The only reason Muslims are in this state is because their self interests supersede the interests of Muslims as a whole. This weakness of ours is being used to systematically disable Muslim world one after an another.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya. Maybe Iran or Pakistan are next.
India is not a Muslim state, it is a state governed by a Hindu religious fanatic.

 

[QWECXZ]

You see my views as primitive, you haven't seen the duplicity of the west as far as human rights are concerned.
Are you so naive to not see their support of Israel, what is it based on? Their silent support to atrocities committed by Israel against Muslims. Would their stance be the same if Palestine was a christian country?

The only reason Muslims are in this state is because their self interests supersede the interests of Muslims as a whole. This weakness of ours is being used to systematically disable Muslim world one after an another.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya. Maybe Iran or Pakistan are next.
India is not a Muslim state, it is a state governed by a Hindu religious fanatic.

You are twisting my words 180 degrees and repeating them to me instead of acknowledging the flaw in your logic LOL I told you that your way of thinking is the reason that countries like Iraq and Afghanistan have been attacked by the NATO and the Westerners don't bat an eye about the massacres in those countries by the US and her European allies (because Iraqis and Afghans are not Christians) and you're asking me the same question I posed in rhetorical way? LOL

For your information, the Republic of Azerbaijan you want to support is providing the country that has occupied Palestine for 7 decades (it seems that you care about Palestine because you mentioned it) with military bases and intelligence against her Muslim neighbor. I don't see how Aliyev is different from the government of India.

So what? China is also ruled by a government that is sending Uighurs to forced labor camps. Why do you support them against India which is closer to Muslims because of centuries of Muslims ruling over there and 180 million Muslims living there?

 

[Patriot forever]

You are twisting my words 180 degrees and repeating them to me instead of acknowledging the flaw in your logic LOL I told you that your way of thinking is the reason that countries like Iraq and Afghanistan have been attacked by the NATO and the Westerners don't bat an eye about the massacres in those countries by the US and her European allies (because Iraqis and Afghans are not Christians) and you're asking me the same question I posed in rhetorical way? LOL

For your information, the Republic of Azerbaijan you want to support is providing the country that has occupied Palestine for 7 decades (it seems that you care about Palestine because you mentioned it) with military bases and intelligence against her Muslim neighbor. I don't see how Aliyev is different from the government of India.

So what? China is also ruled by a government that is sending Uighurs to forced labor camps. Why do you support them against India which is closer to Muslims because of centuries of Muslims ruling over there and 180 million Muslims living there?

Can you explain to me why using your own logic why Iraq, Yemen, Libya were attacked ?? How is my way of thinking responsible for it?
Why is the west after Iran?

If think you have very little knowledge regarding history of subcontinent or Kashmir for that matter. I will leave it at that.

 

[QWECXZ]

Can you explain to me why using your own logic why Iraq, Yemen, Libya were attacked ?? How is my way of thinking responsible for it?
Why is the west after Iran?

If think you have very little knowledge regarding history of subcontinent or Kashmir for that matter. I will leave it at that.

Sure. Because they think exactly like you, but from their own Christian viewpoint. They think that because Iraq and Afghanistan are Muslim countries, it is OK to side with the Americans against them. But at least they have an alliance called NATO while Muslims lack such a pact and can't have such a pact in decades. Now you're proposing exactly the same idea like them which will lead to the killing of civilians, except that Muslim countries are currently tearing each other apart and that is unrealistic.

The point is that things are not as simple as you say. If we want to side by countries only because of Muslims living there, then India and China both suppress Muslims while India has 6 times more Muslims than China and have been ruled by Muslim rulers for centuries. So, your logic is flawed and countries should not define their policies based on such unrealistic logic.

 

[HaMoTZeMaS]

Can you explain to me why using your own logic why Iraq, Yemen, Libya were attacked ?? How is my way of thinking responsible for it?
Why is the west after Iran?

If think you have very little knowledge regarding history of subcontinent or Kashmir for that matter. I will leave it at that.

Sure. Because they think exactly like you, but from their own Christian viewpoint. They think that because Iraq and Afghanistan are Muslim countries, it is OK to side with the Americans against them. But at least they have an alliance called NATO why Muslims lack such a pact and can't have such a pact in decades. Now you're proposing exactly the same idea like them which will lead to the killing of civilians, except that Muslim countries are tearing each other apart.

The point is that things are not as simple as you say. If we want to side by countries only because of Muslims living there, then India and China both suppress Muslims while India has 6 times more Muslims than China and have been ruled by Muslim rulers for centuries. So, your logic is flawed and countries should define their policies based on such unrealistic logic.

We should Say..

We shall always Stand with the depressed and Stand Against the Supressor

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Even with their extreme hatred towards us (a particular group of afghans) since Pakistan was created, we did support them during Russian invasion.

With due respect, you're oversimplifying everything. Pakistan supports Azerbaijan because we are established allies, regardless of religious issues.

 

[Pandora]

alievbaijan is not a "muslim state"

but if we want to break it down to caveman tribalistic terms... would you support a "muslim" thief over a christian victim?

No surprise there you people have issues with every Muslim country but yourself. You always stand against Muslim countries in conflicts which has been your policy from day one. No shocker that you people have become a country with a self contained eco system cutt off from rest of the world. You people stand with India Armenia Russia during all major conflicts in the region so there is no shocker there as history is just repeating itself. I am not criticizing you here bcz this what you people are and asking you otherwise you be like asking a hyaena to change his stripes.

 

[Mad Scientist 2.0]

That's quite a primitive and backward idea. Your logic is exactly what is wrong with today's world and it's the cause of massacres in Iraq and Afghanistan by the NATO. If Iraq were a Christian country, over a million people wouldn't have died in the war with no one in the Western world batting an eye.

As far as the humanitarian aspect of the war is concerned, people should always side with the victim. No matter what. If a Muslim country is bullying a Christian country, I will side with the Christian country for sure. As far as politics is concerned, people should side with whoever that their victory is better for their interests. In this case, both aspects of the issue point to the fact that Iran should support Armenia against a country that is openly hosting Israeli army (currently occupying Muslim lands) against Iran for over a decade.

Also, your logic is flawed. I wonder if it could be applied to India-China skirmishes as well. After all, India has 180 million Muslims while China has only 30 million Muslims and parts of India have been ruled by Muslims for a long time. So, they are indeed closer to us Muslims than the communist Chinese.

The thing is the flashpoint of the battle is Nagorno Karabakh a region which is within the territory of Azerbaijan is forcefully taken up by the Armenian state. Even in UN the place is designated as a territory of Azerbaijan. But the Armenia forcefully invaded that place killed the Azeri civillians and claimed the land as their own. Here atleast Azerbaijan with all their fault is not the aggressor but a rightful defendor. But since from your talking it is evident you are thinking about nationalism clouded in the veil of humanitarian and giving lesson to others what is right or wrong . Quite an irony indeed.

 

[QWECXZ]

The thing is the flashpoint of the battle is Nagorno Karabakh a region which is within the territory of Azerbaijan is forcefully taken up by the Armenian state. Even in UN the place is designated as a territory of Azerbaijan. But the Armenia forcefully invaded that place killed the Azeri civillians and claimed the land as their own. Here atleast Azerbaijan with all their fault is not the aggressor but a rightful defendor. But since from your talking it is evident you are thinking about nationalism clouded in the veil of humanitarian and giving lesson to others what is right or wrong . Quite an irony indeed.

Well, I didn't know that the UN General Assembly recognizes it as the Azerbaijani territory (I thought it was recognized as disputed territory) but honestly, the UN General Assembly statements cannot be enforced and don't matter much legally. The UN General Assembly has issued statements in favor of the Palestinian state and asked Israel to stop new settlements a thousand times, but nothing has changed. Has it?

As far as the humanitarian aspect of the conflict is concerned, it was the wish of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh to be transferred to Soviet Armenia due to ethnic tensions.

If you want to talk about international law and considering the fact that the UN General Assembly (based on a weak argument) has declared Nagorno-Karabakh as Azerbaijani territory, then the case should be referred to the International Court of Justice and eventually to the UN Security Council. The UNSC can pass a resolution to force Armenia to hand over the territory to Azerbaijan and if Armenia does not respect it, a no-fly zone can be declared over Nagorno-Karabakh and a coalition of international forces can be formed to enforce the resolution. That's how the legal process of the United Nations works. There are tens of such disputes in the world between countries, but that doesn't justify a war without a UNSC resolution.
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P.S. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the General Assembly resolution that you're referring to (besides being obviously unenforceable) is far from a UN consensus about the issue and cannot be used as justification or a legal basis for Azerbaijani claim over Nagorno-Karabakh. Only 37 out of 193 UN members voted in favor of the resolution. That's less than 20% of the UN members. The list of countries that voted in favor of the resolution is as follows:

Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Brunei Darussalam, Cambodia, Colombia, Comoros, Djibouti, Gambia, Georgia, Indonesia, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Moldova, Morocco, Myanmar, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Serbia, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Turkey, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Yemen. (Source: United Nations)

Most countries either abstained from voting or were absent during the session. None of the UNSC permanent members voted in favor of it which shows that it has nearly zero chance of getting passed by the UNSC, even if Russia doesn't veto it. Also, the United States voted against it which means that even the US does not support the Azerbaijani claim, which is ironic considering the close relationship between Azerbaijan and Israel.

 

[dani92]

Even with their extreme hatred towards us (a particular group of afghans) since Pakistan was created, we did support them during Russian invasion.

Other thing the whole reason behind Russian invasion was their support of separatists inside Pakistan and in return Pakistan supported the Islamists inside their country which later led to the Soviet invasion.

 

[TNT]

Iran as the big daddy in the region should definitely do something when insignificant countries like Azerbaijan and Armenia are acting up.

The big daddies of the region are Russia and Turkey. What can sanction ridden iran do, it has alot of its own issues to deal with.