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Says it all really. Highly-regarded and respected (even by left wing groups) legal experts on conflict have come out in support of Israel

Two leading US experts on the law of armed conflict have concluded that IDF targeting complies with international law even where it was “contentious,” and that IDF positions “on targeting largely track those of the US military.”

Although formally their report says it is not judging specific instances from the summer Gaza War, the unmistakable conclusion of the report is to support the IDF’s approach almost across the board in the principles it brought to targeting during the war – principles at the core of the public debate over alleged war crimes.

Because of the authors’ prominence and the unprecedented inside access they were given to IDF operations, the impact of the report could be wide-ranging and even influence decisions by the International Criminal Court on the issues.

The two authors of the 52-page report – a summary of which was posted on the academic legal blog Just Security on Friday, but is being reported in the mainstream media for the first time here, in The Jerusalem Post – are Michael Schmitt and John Merriam.

In the academic debate over how aggressively Western militaries can fight against adversaries such as Hamas or al-Qaida, which purposely endanger civilians in war, Schmitt is one of the leading voices in the US and globally for a more aggressive posture.

Schmitt is the top expert on the law of armed conflict at the US Naval War College and also holds posts at NATO, Harvard and Exeter in England. Previously, he was a US Air Force lawyer and is widely influential on militaries’ practices even beyond the US.

Merriam also holds a post on the law of armed conflict at the Naval War College and continues to serve as a major and a lawyer in the US Army.


The summary says that “Israel has long resisted publicly revealing its targeting methods and even some of its specific positions on the law of armed conflict, fearing that doing so” would help “its adversaries” and “be exploited” by its international critics.

It continues, “This may be changing….The IDF invited us to Israel to examine its targeting practices…. We visited an operational IDF headquarters (the Gaza Division) and observed its targeting cells; reviewed the targeting procedures of both ground and air forces … visited a Hamas attack tunnel; examined combat footage… and interviewed IDF officers – both legal advisers and operators.”

Schmitt writes that the IDF’s targeting practices are “broadly within the mainstream of contemporary state practice, but the nuances… can only be understood” in Israel’s specific context.

He notes that the “Israeli population views itself as ‘under siege’ – Israel is surrounded by foes” who regularly launch rockets at Israeli populations centers.

“These rockets are capable of ranging virtually the entire country,” states Schmitt.


He adds, “Put in terms of the law of armed conflict, the destruction of rockets and rocket-launching infrastructure (often in the form of civilian houses converted to military use in order to deter Israeli attack) has a high degree of ‘anticipated military advantage,’ such that it may justify (from the IDF’s standpoint) levels of collateral damage that may strike outside observers as potentially excessive.”

Next, the report focuses on “the acute casualty aversion in Israeli society writ large, coupled with a pervasive fear of IDF soldiers being taken prisoner and used to exert strategic leverage over Israel.”

Schmitt says the US’s highly criticized decision to trade five Taliban fighters for the release of US Sgt.

Bowe Bergdahl as compared to Israel routinely releasing hundreds or even thousands of captured fighters for the return of IDF soldiers or their remains illustrates the unique Israeli mentality on the issue.

He points out that whereas the US is a volunteer force, the IDF is a conscript force and that “nearly every Israeli family has loved ones who have confronted, are confronting, or will confront the risk of capture or death in combat.”

Schmitt discusses how the IDF’s approach and strikes on Hamas’s tunnels, cement plants and its soldiers concentrated in civilian settings sometimes lead outside observers to question Israel’s commitment to basic principles such as distinction, proportionality and minimizing civilian casualties.

In contrast, he repeatedly equates IDF practice with US military practice and concludes that even where the IDF differs from the US, “the Israeli approach remains within the ambit of generally accepted state practice” and “in many cases, worthy of emulation.”

He adds that the IDF legal advisers are “highly competent,” “well-trained” and have a “remarkable degree of autonomy.”


At its core, Schmitt’s report explains the basis for unique and aggressive Israeli interpretations of what is a military objective; when civilians cross over and become “direct participants” in hostilities; “voluntary human shields”; open-ended targeting of “organized armed groups”; how much weight is given to uncertainty and doubt in targeting; and Israel’s controversial “roof-knocking” warning policy.

Schmitt’s conclusions will be viewed as controversial in opposing academic circles and within much of the human rights community, but he is taken seriously by most parties.

Neither the IDF, nor the Justice Ministry nor the Foreign Ministry wished to comment on the report – likely because the report’s positive analysis speaks for itself.

Major US military law experts: IDF ‘contentious’ targeting complies with international law - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post
 
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How can you be this stupid? o_O Jerusalem Post is merely reporting about the 52 page report released by these experts.

Jews and their drones support the occupation of Palestine and oppression of its people

These experts would legitimise the burning of babies if the israelis did it
 
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And guess who the authors are?

The two authors of the 52-page report – a summary of which was posted on the academic legal blog Just Security on Friday, but is being reported in the mainstream media for the first time here, in The Jerusalem Post – are Michael Schmitt and John Merriam.

Zions just being zions, nothing new!!!

Major US military law experts: IDF ‘contentious’ targeting complies with international law - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post



Ah, a bit of racism I see.

Can you. from your cave in Pakistan, prove that they're both Jewish?

No? didn't think so.


As for Michael Schmitt for example, this is part of his CV

Professor Schmitt has been an invited visiting scholar at Melbourne University, Australian National University, Yale Law School and Emory University, and has delivered the Sir Ninian Stephen Lecture at Melbourne University, the Hilaire McCoubrey Lecture at Hull University and the Waldemar Solf Lecture at the US Army’s Judge Advocate General’s Legal Center and School. He serves on many boards of institutions, learned and professional societies, and publications dealing with international humanitarian law. The author of over 130 scholarly publications, his academic degrees include a D.Litt (Durham University), JD (University of Texas), LL.M (Yale University), MA (Naval War College), and MA (Texas State University). He is a life member of the Council on Foreign Relations and a Fellow of the Royal Society of the Arts.

A thousand times the person you'll ever be.
 
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Ah, a bit of racism I see.

Can you. from your cave in Pakistan, prove that they're both Jewish?

No? didn't think so.


As for Michael Schmitt for example, this is part of his CV



A thousand times the person you'll ever be.
There is nothing racist in what I said. What ever his credentials, and whatever your rants, he will remain a Zionist, he has proven this, himself by siding with the zionist terrorists!

Sorry but please keep your crap to yourself!

Btw why don't you have the guts to openly display your israeli flag, instead of Morocco?
 
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The IDF most of the time do follow the rules of engagement, and in some way have their own better form of these rules.

But this does not excuse Israel's actions, current position in anyway. It's the question where if we applied this to the Iraq war:

It was not sanctioned by large parts of the UN, based on false pretences and lies, mismanaged, mishandled and over-all disastrous.

It would be folly for us to then say, well at least MOST combat personnel conducted themselves properly, and the war effort was never intentionally destructive and followed some rules of engagement.

I'll leave aside the parts where those rules were violated horrendously.
 
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The IDF most of the time do follow the rules of engagement, and in some way have their own better form of these rules.

But this does not excuse Israel's actions, current position in anyway. It's the question where if we applied this to the Iraq war:

It was not sanctioned by large parts of the UN, based on false pretences and lies, mismanaged, mishandled and over-all disastrous.

It would be folly for us to then say, well at least MOST combat personnel conducted themselves properly, and the war effort was never intentionally destructive and followed some rules of engagement.

I'll leave aside the parts where those rules were violated horrendously.


You can't compare it to Iraq because that was an unprovoked invasion.

Israel was responding to thousands of rockets fired on its territory and is fully justified under international law to respond. In fact, the Israeli government could have been held criminally responsible if they had not responded - as the first priority for every government, is the protection of their own citizens.
 
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There is nothing racist in what I said. What ever his credentials, and whatever your rants, he will remain a Zionist, he has proven this, himself by siding with the zionist terrorists!

Sorry but please keep your crap to yourself!

Btw why don't you have the guts to openly display your israeli flag, instead of Morocco?
Maybe he is a Moroccan jew thus has no problems with jew occupation and oppression of Palestine

You can't compare it to Iraq because that was an unprovoked invasion.

Israel was responding to thousands of rockets fired on its territory and is fully justified under international law to respond. In fact, the Israeli government could have been held criminally responsible if they had not responded - as the first priority for every government, is the protection of their own citizens.

Israel is in occupation of Palestine

Dont occupy a innocent people and steal their homes and lands and maybe just maybe they wont try to fight you
 
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You can't compare it to Iraq because that was an unprovoked invasion.

Israel was responding to thousands of rockets fired on its territory and is fully justified under international law to respond. In fact, the Israeli government could have been held criminally responsible if they had not responded - as the first priority for every government, is the protection of their own citizens.

My point exactly. It can't be compared to Iraq, it can't even be compared because what you're focusing on has nothing to do with the legality of the conflict, only the rules of engagement.
 
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My point exactly. It can't be compared to Iraq, it can't even be compared because what you're focusing on has nothing to do with the legality of the conflict, only the rules of engagement.
Why not legality of the conflict? Israel is an illegal occupier, so how is it's Aggression justified?
 
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Why not legality of the conflict? Israel is an illegal occupier, so how is it's Aggression justified?

I'm letting this guy off. If I had the patience to deal with pro-Israeli posters, I'd repeatedly grill them with articles, journals and scholarly work that challenged the legality of several aspects of conflict that owes itself to Israel's doing.

I could easily post about the legality of Gaza blockade, it's place in international law, with several sources and some very hefty articles.

I could just as easily target Israeli settlements as brazen violations of international law, I could also then challenge them as a root of conflict in itself.

If it was worth my time, I'd also challenge the notion that somehow the rocket fire is always the first provocation, both as a broader argument with the above 2 issues, and acute outbreaks of this conflict and smaller events.

Like I said, it'd not worth my time. It's not worth your time either. I can't name the last pro-Israeli poster I came across that didn't lie, cheat, dodge, distract and use dirty tactics to avoid coming to terms with some very hard and undeniable truths. Even if you force them to make concessions about the solidness of their belief, they will feel deeply uncomfortable.

But, you are lucky that this is PDF. If this debate was happening on YT or elsewhere, there'd be someone here who would needlessly stir the debate into being about Muslim vs Jew, and certainly you'd be labelled a terrorist supporter.

In my experience, the pro-Israeli argument is by far it's weakest when both sides are arguing honestly, using sources and the debate is moderated.
 
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My point exactly. It can't be compared to Iraq, it can't even be compared because what you're focusing on has nothing to do with the legality of the conflict, only the rules of engagement.


And two of the most eminent experts in their field whose advice is sought around the world, have concluded that Israel kept within recognised and legal rules of engagement.
 
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