Intermarriage 'major risk factor' in Peterborough child deaths

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Intermarriage 'major risk factor' in Peterborough child deaths - BBC News

Intermarriage 'major risk factor' in Peterborough child deaths

• 9 December 2015
• From the section Cambridgeshire

Image caption A cultural tradition from north Pakistan of inter-family marriages has taken hold in Peterborough, according to experts
Almost a third of children of Asian ethnicity who died in a six-year period in Peterborough had parents related other than by marriage, according to a report.

Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Child Death Overview Panel said the deaths of 36 children from the ethnic group were reported between 2008 and 2014.

In 30% of cases the parents were related.

The deaths were due to congenital abnormalities.

'Cultural condition'
In 2013 it was revealed the number of babies born with birth defects in Bradford was nearly double the national average, largely because of marriages between first cousins in the Pakistani community.

Last month it was announced that school pupils in Slough were being taught about the importance of genetic testing in response to babies being born with rare birth defects.

Fifteen babies under the age of one died in Slough between 2012 and 2013, including seven from "chromosomal, genetic, and congenital" anomalies.

It is believed the deaths were linked to intermarriage in some communities.

The age range of the children who died in Peterborough was not specified.

One GP in Peterborough, who asked to remain anonymous, told the BBC she had been threatened with a knife and patients also tried to bribe her to keep concerns about inter-family relations to herself.

Henrietta Ewart, Peterborough's former director of public health, said the issue in the area seems to originate from north Pakistan.

She said: "There is a cultural tradition which is known as watta satta. The strongest driver for that marriage is around maintaining land holdings and other property within an extended family group. The argument is that it helps family cohesion.

"Often, where the marriages are arranged and a bridal groom is coming in from the villages, it's possible that even if the law was changed to make cousin marriages illegal, because of the documentation issues it might not always be possible to identify and prevent."

"A legal approach would be a sledgehammer to crack a nut," she added.

 

[thrilainmanila]

this bullshit only happens amongst pakistanis living in the uk among them are a large group of third class people, once you mention it to the backward bastards your labeled a kuffar, all the pakistanis i've met outside of England frown upon the british-pakistanis if you come visit this country you'll feel embarassed at some of the stuff.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

this bullshit only happens amongst pakistanis living in the uk among them are a large group of third class people, once you mention it to the backward bastards your labeled a kuffar, all the pakistanis i've met outside of England frown upon the british-pakistanis if you come visit this country you'll feel embarassed at some of the stuff.

They probably have had cousin marriages for few generations since this genetic problems is not present in Pakistan. In Islam, cousin marriage is allowed but that does not mean you only marry cousins !!!

First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children - Telegraph

First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to 'appalling' disabilities among children
Baroness Flather, a cross-bench peer, says it is 'absolutely appalling' that first cousin marriages in Pakistani communities are leading to 'so much disability among children'

By Steven Swinford, Deputy Political Editor

5:33PM BST 07 Jul 2015

Couples who are getting married should be forced to have a DNA test first to ensure they are not cousins amid growing concern about incest within Pakistani communities, Britain's first Asian peer has claimed.

Baroness Flather, a former Tory who now sits as a cross-bencher, said in the House of Lords that it is "absolutely appalling" that first cousin marriages in Pakistani communities are leading to "so much disability among children".

She said: "There are a lot of first-cousin marriages in certain communities, particularly among Pakistanis who come from the Pakistani Kashmir area. We know so much about DNA now, but there is so much disability among the children, which is absolutely appalling.

"You go to any such family and there will be four or five children, at least one or two of whom will have some disability. That is absolutely unacceptable, and if we cannot do anything about it, is it fair to the children?"

Baroness Flather, a former barrister who was born in the Pakistani city of Lahore when it was part of India, said: "Never mind the parents — it is not fair to the children that they should be allowed to become disabled because of a social practice. It is a social practice which does not belong in today’s age, when we know so much about DNA. There should at least be some rule which says that you must have a DNA examination before your marriage can be registered."

First-cousin marriages, which are are legal in the UK, are practised within Britain’s Pakistani community, as well as among some Arab and African families. Medical data previously suggested that while British Pakistanis were responsible for 3 per cent of all births, they accounted for 30 per cent of British children born with a genetic illness.

The noble Baroness Flather also raised concerns about Sharia law, under which women struggle to get a divorce.

She said: "I know I am probably talking about Muslims, but we now have this business of sharia marriages. It is appalling that the man can get a divorce by just asking for it, while a woman may have to wait years, and may still not get it. She can get a British divorce, but not a sharia divorce.

Noble Lords may ask, “Why does that matter?”, and I asked that of those women. They replied, “It means that we can’t go to Pakistan”.

"If they go there, the husband can come and take the children away, no matter what age they are. In any case, the husband can take the children from a sharia marriage when they are seven. All marriages should be automatically registered in this country. It is not fair to the women that some British women — they are British women when they come here — are treated in a different and unacceptable way from others.

 

[VCheng]

Look at the bright side, never mind the IQ or other issues, inbreeding keeps the family property in safe hands.

 

[Cherokee]

British Pakistanis are a unique species be it radicalization, crime, inbreeding etc . Such issues are never seen in Pakistani Expat community anywhere else on the planet at such magnitude .

 

[untitled]

10 people who married their Cousins

List includes Einstein, Darwin and Franklin Roosvelt. Cousin marriages do happen the US too. The non muslims who have married their cousins go out of the way to hide the fact.

See the article below (It is not what it seems)

Why ban cousin marraiges ?

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Look at the bright side, never mind the IQ or other issues, inbreeding keeps the family property in safe hands.

Stupid people lose their property in each generation and after two generation they will be living in poverty.

List includes Einstein, Darwin and Franklin Roosvelt. Cousin marriages in common in the US too but frowned upon and not illegal either. The non asian who have married their cousins go out of the way to hide the fact

These were rare cases. Pakistanis marry with cousins for generations.

 

[untitled]

ever mind the IQ or other issue

Cousin marriages also produces prodigies

 

[VCheng]

Stupid people lose their property in each generation and after two generation they will be living in poverty.

Please look at the feudals in Pakistan as an example that proves your statement above wrong.

 

[farhan_9909]

Cousin marriage doubles the risk of child born with genetic diseases (from something around 1 and half percent to almost 3 percent).

 

[VCheng]

Cousin marriages also produces prodigies

Of course. Look at how well inbreeding brings prosperity.

 

[asif1986]

this bullshit only happens amongst pakistanis living in the uk among them are a large group of third class people, once you mention it to the backward bastards your labeled a kuffar, all the pakistanis i've met outside of England frown upon the british-pakistanis if you come visit this country you'll feel embarassed at some of the stuff.

May be its because pakistanis living in england are mainly mirpuris.You wont find many mirpuris in america,EU and other countries amongst the pakistani diaspora.

 

[untitled]

Cousin marriage doubles the risk of child born with genetic diseases (from something around 1 and half percent to almost 3 percent).

If you read the article above risks also increase with woman who get pregnant after the age of 35. So should pregnancies after the age of 35 be frowned upon too ?

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Please look at the feudals in Pakistan as an example that proves your statement above wrong.

I have seen cases where paternal and maternal grand parents were cousins so were the parents. But in Pakistan there is cases where one parent is not a cousin so new blood and genes are added.

If you read the article above risks also increase with woman who get pregnant after the age of 35. So should pregnancies after the age of 35 be frowned upon too ?

Yes. That is true. But the cousin marriages can be avoided. I have all my my cousins married outside the family except few.

 

[VCheng]

I have seen cases where paternal and maternal grand parents were cousins so were the parents. But in Pakistan there is cases where one parent is not a cousin so new blood and genes are added.

The whole process aids social and family stability in some ways.