Intense air activity in Srinagar today by IAF

[crankthatskunk]

In Pakistan they use the term "Dunbe ko dabba ke khalla ke" get him read for the slaughter.

That's what is Indian's position in front of the USA. Beefing them up for the slaughter.
Foolish Indians.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

President Trump doesn’t care....

That is a death warrant to India, initially India was harping on US help and sabre-rattling...this was not forthcoming.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

That is a death warrant to India, initially India was harping on US help and sabre-rattling...this was not forthcoming.

To the slave driver, a nigger is always a nigger....

 

[ADIL SHERDIL]

The first country to panic will use Airforce. I don't think either side is that stupid I mean China won't use airforce. Well i can't say about India. If Indians somehow and the will use force in some other area to divert attention or release some pressure on them it will get nasty.

 

[crankthatskunk]

The first country to panic will use Airforce. I don't think either side is that stupid I mean China won't use airforce. Well i can't say about India. If Indians somehow and the will use force in some other area to divert attention or release some pressure on them it will get nasty.
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"Noodles were phantastic"

 

[TheTallGuy]

Force magzine - Parveen has went hindi - those who know hindi - could feel his honest pain him been ex-Army officer and the situation

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Here is a good read that appeared in a UK newspaper few days ago:

"to resolve the problem, India and China should play a cricket match.

However, China may not play because they have eaten all the bats.

....and India may not play either, because they don't have the balls".

can you post the link to the news article.

No sir, IAF is far more scared ...one more skirmish that reulted in one or two IAF jets get shot down the morale will be touching ground before the wreckage of the jets....

The IAF is also under a lot of pressure to raise the moral of India and justify the latest multi billion dollars purchases. In the past 10 yrs IAF has upgrades their Mig 21's, Mig 29, Su30, Jaguar and M2K. On top of that they have ordered Rafale and Tejas. There are many other purchases for Helicopters, AWACS and Refuelling Tankers too. These are big ticket items and they are to be used when time came, if IAF does not see this is the right time then why do India need the Armed Forces.

It will engage india in all sectors not just ladkh sector..yes it has fewer air bases in kashmir sector but IAF will be overhwelmed as whole within 72 hours once east tibet is involved
130 odd operational su30 & 100 odd mig29-mirages non of them having a decent BVR will be a turkey shot for superior flankers with long range pl15 and strong AWEC /tanker support ..
Bombers will than over run and decimate all indian forward bases..before nuclear threshold is reach china will declare unilateral cease-fire ..a classic take from indian own "cold start" doctrine

It depends on how good are IAF tactics. The IAF clearly sees they have a upper hand in regards with the airbases and the aircraft they can use for these operation.

Knowing the potential of China in regards to building speed they can build airbases too but id the IAF is able to attack now they will be able to gain air superiority making it difficult for China to build any new airbases to counter the Indians.

The biggest Chinese base is KMG but from there PLAAF would need to fly over Myanmar or Bhutan.

As previously you may know both are nuclear weapons states ....they(Indians) have calculated that skirmish is possible without reaching the threshold. we have to consider they has been no blood-shed between Indo-China since 1962, they have learned many things since past. they are establishing "BAT" Units (aka Kashmir fame)

Overall, with US Backing and 3 x carrier groups proceeding towards Indian ocean(i heard it from Rtd. Col. on TV) there calculation show they can get away with skirmish.

Never under-estimate enemy - rule of thumb!

Please remember UN Permanent members have VETO hence no one can force them to stop a war in 72 hours.
If USA or any other state has to enter this WAR they would require an agreement to defend India some thing similar to what Luxembourg had with UK or a NATO like alliance. Unfortunately India doesn't have any thing fr now though they have recently signed use of air bases agreement with Australia.

Not everyone is foolish.

I still remember the PAF Air Chief at the time of the OBL raid said on TV to this effect. "What you wanted us to do with the helicopters! On the border with Afghanistan, American jets were waiting."

Looking with all the evidence including Eye Witnesses account to what happened to the seals, there was no doubt that PAF chief was on the game.

Please stay on topic.

President Trump doesn’t care....

Well Trump does care about US interests... this is the reason he wants some deep pocket countries go to war.

 

[Dil Pakistan]

can you post the link to the news article.

Wasn't a news article Sir! .... just a comment from some reader.

 

[pakdefender]

Modi coward doing randi tamasha for tattered indian image home and abroad

 

[SrNair]

can you post the link to the news article.


The IAF is also under a lot of pressure to raise the moral of India and justify the latest multi billion dollars purchases. In the past 10 yrs IAF has upgrades their Mig 21's, Mig 29, Su30, Jaguar and M2K. On top of that they have ordered Rafale and Tejas. There are many other purchases for Helicopters, AWACS and Refuelling Tankers too. These are big ticket items and they are to be used when time came, if IAF does not see this is the right time then why do India need the Armed Forces.



It depends on how good are IAF tactics. The IAF clearly sees they have a upper hand in regards with the airbases and the aircraft they can use for these operation.

Knowing the potential of China in regards to building speed they can build airbases too but id the IAF is able to attack now they will be able to gain air superiority making it difficult for China to build any new airbases to counter the Indians.

The biggest Chinese base is KMG but from there PLAAF would need to fly over Myanmar or Bhutan.


Please remember UN Permanent members have VETO hence no one can force them to stop a war in 72 hours.
If USA or any other state has to enter this WAR they would require an agreement to defend India some thing similar to what Luxembourg had with UK or a NATO like alliance. Unfortunately India doesn't have any thing fr now though they have recently signed use of air bases agreement with Australia.



Please stay on topic.


Well Trump does care about US interests... this is the reason he wants some deep pocket countries go to war.

Some fair points you have.
But AFAIK this is not a normal preparation.
They are planning for something .Lets see

 

[NA71]

US has clear instructions to Modi that he should focus on fighting China.

Modi will not fight Pakistan. The activity in the valley is related to moving of the forces from the valley to Leh.

The problem is Modi does not understand English .....He is assuming "Dolaan trump" wants India to start the game

 

[RedHulk]

Though the war situation is with China but still India is afraid of Pakistan. They are expecting us to attack them by taking advantage of the situation. But we are doing the opposite. We are waiting for India to make a blunder in panic and give us an excuse to attack them.

 

[Rizwan Alam]

Haven't heard any Indian jet crashing news lately. Well... I am expecting some.

 

[NA71]

One thing is for sure ....if we are going to witness IAF Vs PLAAF in come days....we will have the opportunity to gauge PL15 performance in actual battle environment ...

Which type of Chinese ACs will be pitched against M2KS/M29/MKIs .....

 

[truthseeker2010]

China wants India to make the first move... it has got both ModiRegime and IndianArmedForces in a very difficult position... either keep retreating from IndianOccupied Ladakh or engage in military action...

For now all of the Indian deployment of assets and troops is typical ClockworkWarfare ...that it has practiced against Pakistan @PanzerKiel @Signalian

China/PLA won't engage in ClockworkWarfighting ... it is a dragging down doctorine...

We might get to see a DisruptiveWarfare Doctorine ...should India fire the first bullet!

For now it is neither forward nor backward for India!

We have seen a spike in terror attacks in Pakistan and this new outfit on the line of TTP/BLA claiming responsibility for terror attacks in Karachi.... and last week in Pindi.... Balochistan has suffered and so has former FATA...

This trend of creating terror acts as diversion/deterence for Pakistan is the same strategy when the VajpaeeRegime put Indians on the border for a year so that we couldn't take care of our Western borders...

CeaseFireLine violations will accelerate with targeting of PakCivilians in AJK... again a deterence/diversion tactic... @waz

The Geography of Ladakh doesn't allow the kind of battelfield Indians are deploying for...but let us see how the move... never underestimate an organised force... even if its from our nemesis!

One senses.... the silence of Modi and now visiuals coming to IndianMedia are not really for soothing nerves of the Indian populations...but a kind of CounterPressure building from Indian side to deter the PLA any further advance than already....

For now it is at Psychological stage... without belittling, Indians are starting from a Shocked position... so this nervousness might create some miscalculations...

For any outcome IAF has to dominate the Airspace completely... not half...but totally.. otherwise... more losses of not only faces but Landmass!!!

Mangus

For IAF to dominate its needs aircraft which it dont have, total iaf fighter aircraft are around 650 including 260 vintage jag and m21. Whereas plaaf has more than 1200+ 4.5 gen aircraft alone. Iaf cannot even fight paf with these nos, (paf's pilots are class above plaaf) so if delhi is really hellbent on its destruction so be it.

One thing is for sure ....if we are going to witness IAF Vs PLAAF in come days....we will have the opportunity to gauge PL15 performance in actual battle environment ...

Which type of Chinese ACs will be pitched against M2KS/M29/MKIs .....

J10 is more than enough